Market Feedback Complaint against the cheating member named jassi

[keith_j_snyder2]

I m making this thread just so that admins should know what exactly has been done. I don't have any personal grudge against this person but whatever i m writing here should let u judge the read deal.

First of all i want everyone including mods & admins to look at this thread here. Now for all those hateful comments written against me, i might deserve them or not but whatever i did was to help this person so that he should'nt feel cheated & instead he did the exact opposite.

1. I sold my 2 cards i.e HD4850 & HD4870 for 7300/- to Jassi(Mr. Barjinder Singh as mentioned to his bank account) as this price has been the negotiated price that i agreed on for him dispite of my low priced sale. Out of that i made 3500/- for the HD4850 & the rest of the 3800/- for HD4870 & that includes the shipping price too. I did shipped the card but it took sometime for me to ship them but i did shipped it just because the HD4870 belongs to my cousin.

2. Out of that i clearly mentioned the warranty of the cards & Jassi was aware of it. I never mentioned any warranty on HD4870 as it wasn't bought from India. Now first thing first, there is no liability of mine to give warranty on HD4870 but out of generosity i assumed a testing warranty which normally applies to a 3 days. But Mr. Jassi came up with something called working in 2D mode & not in 3D mode & he told me that after exaclty 6 days of delivery. Now u all know that if ur getting a used item u should test it thoroughly so that there shouldn't be any problem but he never ever gave any substantial proof if the card is faulty or not. Instead he created a thread against me.

3. While we were dealing the aformentioned GPU's we has some long talks on phone & he asked me if i can get him some more used cards & i found him quite the right person. So again out of generocity i provided him 3 other GPUs i.e 2 GTS250 & a HD4670 for a price of 6000/- so that he can have less impact as a GTS250 & a HD4670 costs me 3000/- each from 2 of my friends(helped them both in upgrading & selling their spare GPUs). And one of the GTS250 was mine which i was using & i gave him that for free.

4. i never discussed it with my cousin as he's my elder cousin & he's close to family so i have my respect for him & he's pretty protective. But when thigs went out of hands i told him everything & boy i got scolded for more than an hour as he mentioned that the card that he sent him was absolutely working fine for him & was idle for 2 weeks as he upgraded.

5. For that i asked Jassi to return the faulty HD4870 GPU to me as i could've done something out of it & for that i have to call him a million times but he only picked my call twice & he told me that he gave the card to some XYZ person working for Sapphire & he'll help him to avail warranty & the story went on forever but he never gave the name of the person but he confirmed that he got the shipment & all of them are working fine.

6. After that i got a bit busy for around 3 weeks with my exams & after that me & my cousin kept try calling him million times but he never answered & 1 time i called him from a different phone & he picked so i got him bare handed. In that call he admitted that he didn't picked up my phone deliberately but he refuses that he got any call from my cousin.

7. My cousin then got soft on me & said tell him to return the card which mr. jassi has failed to do so my cousin said to tell him to get an amount of 1200/- in my acount if he wants to keep the card but jassi refuses to do either of them.

Oh and a little more thing, while the first transaction he said that he accidently put 8300/- in my account & he asked for refund which i didn't had any problem refunding back as it was the honest thing to do.

Now i can't go to any godfather to ask for help as i want u all to be the judge as this is a clear case of cheating.

 

[Arun.P]

@ jassi

I suggest i want the proof can to post the photos your friend who is working at Sapphire company via Aditya info or whatever any company

don't con on him i know your have cheat him very well that, i have cheat by my close friend's dealer who gave fault graphic card 9800 gt 512 mb version, but i did not bash him just give him an soft word after exchange it the deal around 2 week

your should return this card or refund the money, don't tried to been greedy to get away all the money while your already sold to someone honesty, no hard feeling

 

[Neo-N]

I think that the TE rules should be modified to allow members to sell only those things that they personally own. NO cousin's goods, friend's goods or anything like that!

What is the point in selling something that you don't personally own and then involving a third party in a transaction. Also, as TE cannot exercise any control on the 3rd party, it is better that TE disallow sales involving goods of 3rd parties to be concluded here.

 

[jassi]

wooooooooow ... this fruad again create a thread ...

anyway let me clear some things to everyone here ...

1. first thing that keith told me on ur talk is this id is used by his cousin (fruad person who sold me his faulty hd4870)....

2. this fraud lying that on ur second deal i paid him 7300 again for 2 gts 250 and 1 4670 ..and each card is without any accessories and box .even that thing he doesn't told to me ..

3. again this time he sold me that stuff that doesnt belong to him ..never he saw it ur even check it if its working or not ...

4. as i am not having that faulty 4870 ..send him to aditya just tried if they can repair it or not ..

5.also i talk only with keith .. his cousin never called me even a single time ...only keith talk to me ..i picked keith call and told him everthing ..even said him that to said he cousin to call me ...

6. i want keith to reply on this ..tell me that havent i paid for each and every card ??? i paid ...also sending u faulty 4870 is my wish not ur ...so that u can see what u did with me ..

7. also i want to this thread to be alive ..coz i am calling back the faulty 4870 from aditya with in a week or 2 .and show this to each and every person here if its working or not ..

8. also clear onething to everyone here that how can u sell that stuff that is doesnt belong to u ..even u havent see that product and even never checked that if its working or not ...man u start the deal without following the rules ..

even gautham82 user also face the same problem while dealing with him ..he sold him the motherboard by lying on its warranty status and bill copy ...

keith told me that this id used by his cousin ..i dont know why these two cosuin are trying to fool buyers ...

 

[CA50]

#jassi, remove the bank details

 

[keith_j_snyder2]

First of all jassi Keith did told u that he doesn't have any accessory for the GTS250 & secondly it's not my fault of ur inability to read as the very first line of the thread clearly states that the card doesn't belong to him.

Apart from Keith i called u several times heck even more than keith has called u.

And as everyone can see that he's still refusing to deal with either of the options he have & no proof of faulty card.

And please have some class, it's not only u who has the bank details & contact no.

 

[Arjun]

secondly it's not my fault of ur inability to read as the very first line of the thread clearly states that the card doesn't belong to him.

The sale thread http://www.techencla...us-going-cheap/ says product location Haryana for 4870 , so why was the card shipped from Ahmedabad & not Haryana?

Heres your quote from the other thread -

My sale thread consists of 4 cards & out of that only 1 card was with me & rest of the three were with my cousin & none of the other cards came faulty.

Now why does your sale thread says Product Location as Haryana for all the cards? At the time of listing was your cousin living in Haryana?

If the card was not in your possession why does the screenshot posted by you in the sale thread shows your username & date , the buyer would assume looking at the screenshot that the card was in your possession ,

Notice the different hand writing in the two screenshots -

you weren't transparent with the details in the sale thread & now why would any one believe your side of the story?

If you are going to sell something on behalf of some one then its your responsibility to get the item from your cousin/friend, test it & then ship it to the buyer & you should have taken the card from your cousin before starting the sale thread , the buyer should never have had to deal with two different persons from the start.

 

[rakesh_ic]

The sale thread http://www.techencla...us-going-cheap/ says product location Haryana for 4870 , so why was the card shipped from Ahmedabad & not Haryana?

Heres your quote from the other thread -

Now why does your sale thread says Product Location as Haryana for all the cards? At the time of listing was your cousin living in Haryana?

If the card was not in your possession why does the screenshot posted by you in the sale thread shows your username & date , the buyer would assume looking at the screenshot that the card was in your possession ,

Notice the different hand writing in the two screenshots -

you weren't transparent with the details in the sale thread & now why would any one believe your side of the story?

If you are going to sell something on behalf of some one then its your responsibility to get the item from your cousin/friend, test it & then ship it to the buyer & you should have taken the card from your cousin before starting the sale thread , the buyer should never have had to deal with two different persons from the start.

+1 on this..

 

[m-jeri]

True. Rule should be modified no third party stuff and or atleast item should it be in their possesion.

 

[sunny4691]

#jassi Why did you dealt with him the 2nd time for the gts250 and hd4670 when you say keith cheated you in the 1st deal. If i have some problem with someone in a deal i will never try to have the deal wit the same person for the 2nd time.

 

[jassi]

firstly @sunny4691 bro he spoiled me more than 2months ...these two cousin spoil me alot (at that time keith said call my cousin and he says i already talk to keith and he will call u ) i am in total loss if didnt deal with him for gts 250 deal ..as i want to recover as much as i can ...also he only give me only this option ..that he will only sell his gts 250 and not ready to refund my money ...and even he didnt told me that he is not having any accessories again he lie ..

and @ keith`s cousin ..oh u stupid man havent u getting this that ..how can u sell that 4870 if keith is not having that card at his home ..u clearly lie that card is at Harayana ..whereas it is at Ahmadabad ..even that thing told me after making payment ...

still u r using keith`s id and he didnt know that .... keith should have that card so that he can chek it if its working or not ...

dude u start the deal with lie and u r blaming me ?

also as i said above i will show each and everyone here if the card is working or not ....even if i paid for that card also ...

i dont know if ur (ASHISH OR NITIN) but u both guys r trying to make buyer fool...

 

[RS4]

I think that the TE rules should be modified to allow members to sell only those things that they personally own. NO cousin's goods, friend's goods or anything like that!

What is the point in selling something that you don't personally own and then involving a third party in a transaction. Also, as TE cannot exercise any control on the 3rd party, it is better that TE disallow sales involving goods of 3rd parties to be concluded here.

True. Rule should be modified no third party stuff and or atleast item should it be in their possesion.

No need of any rule modification, The first rule of TE market is:

[font=arial, sans-serif]TE Market Rules[/font]

[font=arial, sans-serif]1. You must have the product you are selling in possession at the time of sale.[/font]

 

[Neo-N]

No need of any rule modification, The first rule of TE market is:

[font=arial, sans-serif]TE Market Rules[/font]

[font=arial, sans-serif]1. You must have the product you are selling in possession at the time of sale.[/font]

^^ Well, clearly, the first rule was flouted in present case and the defense being put up is that the card belonged to a cousin (or whomever). So, best option would be to modify the rule to say:

You must have the product you are selling in your possession at the time of sale and you must be the owner of the product.

 

[rakesh_ic]

^^ Well, clearly, the first rule was flouted in present case and the defense being put up is that the card belonged to a cousin (or whomever). So, best option would be to modify the rule to say:

You must have the product you are selling in your possession at the time of sale and you must be the owner of the product.

Funny.. so you want a new/modify rule everytime someone comes out with a new excuse of breaching the code of conduct??

 

[Renegade]

That rule is already there. If you notice something then please report and it will be deleted.

 

[nRiTeCh]

[font=arial,sans-serif]Its should be made mandatory that even if you have the product at hand of the original 3rd party products owner--be it your uncle/friend/cousin etc., you should make the 3rd party aware that they have handover-ed their products to you in your responsibility and if any issue arises whatsoever it will be tackled by you and not them. [/font]

Also any clarifications such as warranty/damages/bundled items/box/misc. etc etc. should be strictly & initially sort out by the seller from 3rd party before posting the product for sale in market section.

He should take a word/guaranty from 3rd party that they will not cease for any reasons once the item has been put on sell.

Finally, once the item is marked for sale, its the deal between te members and the seller and not his 3rd party persons whatsoever. And if still anything such issues arise, that member should be banned from viewing market section and from making/replying to market threads.

 

[Renegade]

It cannot be made mandatory. Can only be recommended.

The member who started the deal is responsible as far as TE is concerned. So all rules apply equally. Even banning. The rules have existed since forever. Where is the confusion?

 

[Neo-N]

Funny.. so you want a new/modify rule everytime someone comes out with a new excuse of breaching the code of conduct??

^^ What's funny??

And when did the question of modifying the rules everytime arise? It is just that I have seen this happen quiet a few times. Members sell something and then say that they were not aware of some fault or whatever as the thing belonged to their friends/family members etc.

The suggestion was only meant to avoid this fake defense on the side of the seller. A seller must be aware of the exact condition of the product he is selling. He should not be allowed to make such defenses as 'I was unknown to it' or 'my relative/friend owned it, not me' etc.

As Renegade said, the rule already exists. I just suggested that it be made such that proxy sales are not allowed on behalf of anyone. Presently proxy sales are not allowed on behalf of banned members. And if any member wants to make a proxy sale for any third party, he should disclose the same and take full responsibility rather that blaming others later.

The only thing funny here is the fact that you find things funny without any reason!

 

[rakesh_ic]

^^ What's funny??

And when did the question of modifying the rules everytime arise? It is just that I have seen this happen quiet a few times. Members sell something and then say that they were not aware of some fault or whatever as the thing belonged to their friends/family members etc.

The suggestion was only meant to avoid this fake defense on the side of the seller. A seller must be aware of the exact condition of the product he is selling. He should not be allowed to make such defenses as 'I was unknown to it' or 'my relative/friend owned it, not me' etc.

As Renegade said, the rule already exists. I just suggested that it be made such that proxy sales are not allowed on behalf of anyone. Presently proxy sales are not allowed on behalf of banned members. And if any member wants to make a proxy sale for any third party, he should disclose the same and take full responsibility rather that blaming others later.

The only thing funny here is the fact that you find things funny without any reason!

dude chill..

there can be 101 reasons to quote if not this.. u cant add everything there onto the rules book.. can you?? thats wat i felt funny about.. btw, if it was funny for me, it need not be funny for you.. so just ignore.. i rest my case and expect the same..

 

[keith_j_snyder2]

The sale thread http://www.techencla...us-going-cheap/ says product location Haryana for 4870 , so why was the card shipped from Ahmedabad & not Haryana?

Heres your quote from the other thread -

Now why does your sale thread says Product Location as Haryana for all the cards? At the time of listing was your cousin living in Haryana?

If the card was not in your possession why does the screenshot posted by you in the sale thread shows your username & date , the buyer would assume looking at the screenshot that the card was in your possession ,

Notice the different hand writing in the two screenshots -

you weren't transparent with the details in the sale thread & now why would any one believe your side of the story?

If you are going to sell something on behalf of some one then its your responsibility to get the item from your cousin/friend, test it & then ship it to the buyer & you should have taken the card from your cousin before starting the sale thread , the buyer should never have had to deal with two different persons from the start.

The card was in Haryana but there was a delay in the payment from jassi so my cousin had to ship it from Ahmadabad where he has to go for his training.

I 've mentioned this earlier before that the other card isn't mine & if i had the card with me, i would've mentioned it mine. And as far as the deal is concerned, i didn't forced anyone to buy stuff from me, i was only flexible about everything so i helped him.

And jassi bhaiya i didn't cheated u in any situation, i did helped u everywhere & in every single condition & all i get is the hours of scolding from my cousin & considered a cheater.

Besides after all of the things happening here, u still haven't provided any proof of faulty card.