Confused between 9060 XT and 7800 XT

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gourav

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I was looking for an upgrade to my GPU and was almost set on 7800 XT. However, today I saw the performance and price of 9060 XT and now I'm a bit confused.

I currently have a 3060 12GB. 9060 XT is about 50% faster and 7800 XT is about 100% faster than 3060. However, with RT, both 9060 and 7800 give similar FPS. I'm not too much into graphics and don't need ultra settings and 144 FPS. I'm fine with 50-60 FPS and decent looking graphics.

With the price difference between the two being 8-10k, I was wondering which one makes more sense at this point.
 
gourav said:
I was looking for an upgrade to my GPU and was almost set on 7800 XT. However, today I saw the performance and price of 9060 XT and now I'm a bit confused.

I currently have a 3060 12GB. 9060 XT is about 50% faster and 7800 XT is about 100% faster than 3060. However, with RT, both 9060 and 7800 give similar FPS. I'm not too much into graphics and don't need ultra settings and 144 FPS. I'm fine with 50-60 FPS and decent looking graphics.

With the price difference between the two being 8-10k, I was wondering which one makes more sense at this point.
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7800XT. Not all games use RT

Raster wins here.
 
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I don't think RT matters that much at this perf level. Also, once you get used to high framerates, 60 fps will seem not great visually.
So i wouldnt think too much about RT. But FSR3 is more or less terrible ( maybe 4k q is ok)

7800xt is 20% faster in raster as per techspot/HUB. And is actually slower in heavy RT games. So RT only but optimized games like Avatar will have smaller gap.
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AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT 16GB Review

AMD's Radeon RX 9060 XT comes in two flavors–only one's worth your money. The 16GB model undercuts Nvidia on price, matches performance, and may be the new...
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If you will use FSR4, then it will close the gap i think and you save money. Tough question. For games without FSR4, obv 7800xt will be faster. But it seems its also 22% more exp ( assuming 36k vs 36k+ 8k ).
So doesn't seem to have extra value.
And will use more power.

Unless its at similar price, i dont see point and will go for 9060xt 16gb. Only exception is if you play raster only old games without FSR. Even then you get what you pay for, its not better value.

PunkX 75 said:
7800XT. Not all games use RT

Raster wins here.
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I started thinking same, but conclusion changed as i started writing and looked at data, small data based on 1 review though.
 
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9060XT 16GB

Reasons - FSR4 + it is cheaper, starts around 36k. In some heavier RT games, 9060XT performs better. There will be more games in future with always-on RT like Indiana Jones & AC Shadows. I kind of agree though that RT is not viable at this performance class, but still just because of always on RT, better to have the better performer with superior upscaling. No idea if 7800XT will get FSR4, but it might be AMD's RTX 20 series moment.

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gourav said:
With the price difference between the two being 8-10k, I was wondering which one makes more sense at this point.
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Well you would be paying 22-25% more for a last gen card that performs 22-25% better. I would rather save the money and get the newer card. Don't forget that the 9060 XT has significantly lower power draw. Also as Omega mentioned above, we will be having more games with always-on RT in the future, so a 9060 XT does seem to be the more sensible purchase.

EDIT: Any funny how the ~35K 9060 XTs seem to be mostly gone. Looks like price's settled at ~37K, but you are still saving quite a bit of money.
 
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Thanks guys for all the suggestions, and apologies for going AWOL on the thread. I read all the replies when I was out, so those got marked as read, and then later completely forgot about the post.

After some thought, I have decided to go for 9060 XT. Will be buying in a month or so.

While the 7800 XT does offer better performance, the power consumption is quite high. I might even have to upgrade my PSU to run it safely. 9060 XT, on the other hand, can easily run on my 650w PSU.

Currently computech seems to have the lowest prices. If it remains the same, then I might go to their store in person and buy. Not confident enough to pay this much amount online to small stores in advance. And Amazon prices don't seem to match these, even after applying card offers.
 
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Saaz said:
Thank you
It seems similar to 7700xt in AI performance right now
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For some time rumour has been that 9060XT will be 7700XT with more RAM, FSR4 & better RT performance, that's all. Sad state of GPU market. In older times, we would have got at least 7800XT like raw performance to begin with for successor of 7700XT.
 
OMEGA44-XT said:
For some time rumour has been that 9060XT will be 7700XT with more RAM, FSR4 & better RT performance, that's all. Sad state of GPU market. In older times, we would have got at least 7800XT like raw performance to begin with for successor of 7700XT.
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The RT performance is really good, even better or on par with 7800xt. But that's all there is to the card. Other than vram. But since it's not even that fast, the extra vram doesn't matter, especially for productivity like AI
 
Saaz said:
The RT performance is really good, even better or on par with 7800xt. But that's all there is to the card. Other than vram. But since it's not even that fast, the extra vram doesn't matter, especially for productivity like AI
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AMD is still bad for productivity vs Nvidia, you are better off paying 45-46k for 5060Ti 16GB for productivity.
 
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jaswanth2703 said:
Using for deep learning tasks with cuda? Does amd not have anything equivalent to cuda?
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AMD has ROCM. But it's still in development, you can think of it as a beta version. It works, but not comparable to cuda
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AMD is still bad for productivity vs Nvidia, you are better off paying 45-46k for 5060Ti 16GB for productivity.
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Yeah, I would have to see my options. Anyways, there's a few months, let's see if there's any improvement in Rocm
 
Saaz said:
AMD has ROCM. But it's still in development, you can think of it as a beta version. It works, but not comparable to cuda

Yeah, I would have to see my options. Anyways, there's a few months, let's see if there's any improvement in Rocm
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What is ROCM?
Cuda is only nvidia right?
Can we use any lower end GTX GPU for having physx effects? Then what GPU ?
 
bssunilreddy said:
What is ROCM?
Cuda is only nvidia right?
Can we use any lower end GTX GPU for having physx effects? Then what GPU ?
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It's AMD's alternative to cuda. It's a feature set, comprising of various softwares. You should watch some videos on it to understand it better.
It can be used to do productivity tasks on the GPU which normally work using CUDA. But right now it doesn't support every software because It's still in development
 
Saaz said:
right now it doesn't support every software because It's still in development
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Its been in development since 2016 but since AMD doesnt put money and resources into it and every new implementation for ML specific tasks is done keeping Nvidia GPU's and CUDA in mind, I dont see in the near future how ROCm can catch upto CUDA. I was reading on reddit about this a few days ago how flash attention which was developed to optimize transformers by re-writing the attention operations to utilize the gpu more efficiently was implemented and optimized for Nvidia GPU's and was ofcourse written in CUDA.
 
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