PC Peripherals CPU Cooler for AMD 560 BE

[santoshwe]

Hi Friends

I have a AMD Phenom II 560 BE which got successfully unlocked to 4 cores. The 4 cores are running stable. But it seems the stock cooler may not be handle the heat from the extra unlocked cores. Please suggest a good aftermarket cooler. Please suggest value for money stuff. I do not plan to overclock, just run the system in 4 cores always. Is coolermaster hyper TX3 EVO a good choice?

Thanks

 

[ALPHA17]

@santoshwe best is if you go for the Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO.

Also, before making the purchase, download Core Temp -->Core Temp and record the temperatures during load and idle states, if load is not crossing ~70° C then no need to buy the cooler.

If Core Temp refuses to detect your CPU then you can download AMD Overdrive AMD OverDrive? and try checking temperatures with that.

Hope this helps, Cheerio!

 

[m0h1t]

Hi Friends

I have a AMD Phenom II 560 BE which got successfully unlocked to 4 cores. The 4 cores are running stable. But it seems the stock cooler may not be handle the heat from the extra unlocked cores. Please suggest a good aftermarket cooler. Please suggest value for money stuff. I do not plan to overclock, just run the system in 4 cores always. Is coolermaster hyper TX3 EVO a good choice?

Thanks

Are you sure about it? What voltages are you running? have you tried to undervolt?

I recently bought it (amd 560 be) too and I have not only been able to unlock two extra cores but also underclock it to 1.28v with 'Cool and Quiet'. It runs at 0.93v @ 200x4.
Even with IBT temperatures only touch ~60C.

 

[santoshwe]

@ALPHA17


When i run prime 95 or intel burn test the max temperature i get is around 53 C with two cores. With 4 cores the temperature are not detected by coretemp nor amd overdrive. Can we extrapolate the temperature when 4 core are enabled?

@m0h1t


Which tool are you using to monitor temperature with 4 cores?
Also my core voltages are 1.425 v at 100% load. Otherwise it is around 1.07 V with 800mhz X 4. I have also enabled cool and quiet.

 

[ALPHA17]

When i run prime 95 or intel burn test the max temperature i get is around 53 C with two cores. With 4 cores the temperature are not detected by coretemp nor amd overdrive. Can we extrapolate the temperature when 4 core are enabled?

No you cannot extrapolate temperatures in this manner, if this logic holds then the quad-core would have breached the 100° C Delta T and the CPU would have automatically shutdown.

Try using CPU-Z HW Monitor http://www.cpuid.com/softwares.html to get temperatures, though I doubt even that will be able to identify your processor. Never used AMD Overdrive for explicitly viewing my temperatures but do give that a shot too. Cheerio!

 

[Dark Star]

ALPHA17


When i run prime 95 or intel burn test the max temperature i get is around 53 C with two cores. With 4 cores the temperature are not detected by coretemp nor amd overdrive. Can we extrapolate the temperature when 4 core are enabled?

m0h1t


Which tool are you using to monitor temperature with 4 cores?
Also my core voltages are 1.425 v at 100% load. Otherwise it is around 1.07 V with 800mhz X 4. I have also enabled cool and quiet.

You cannot monitor temperature with any software if you have unlocked since the temperature IC in the 2 core won't be able to judge the two unlocked core and the resultant temperature will either be -ve/0*c or vague.

Buy a DMM if you want to monitor the temperature,

Are you sure about it? What voltages are you running? have you tried to undervolt?

I recently bought it (amd 560 be) too and I have not only been able to unlock two extra cores but also underclock it to 1.28v with 'Cool and Quiet'. It runs at 0.93v @ 200x4.
Even with IBT temperatures only touch ~60C.

Unlocking mainly depend on batch and BIOS, not all batch unlock and not all mbs are able to unlock the core so its just on luck. I still remember churning the max out of my 0922apmw 550BE (unlocked @ 4ghz) *awesome days*

Anyway if he has unlocked the cores no software will be able to detect the temperature since k10.5 cores had flimsy on IC temerature monitor even with 2 core there will be disparity while judging the temperatures.

Other than that the undervolted V will only be applied when the cpu throttles at full frequency no int a P-States, p-state frequency and volts are predefined and cannot be changed. So if you undvolt the CPU to say 1.20 or even 1.15V with Cool and Quite enabled it will throttle to 800-900mhz with 0.9V irrespective of stable state voltage.

 

[ALPHA17]

Other than that the undervolted V will only be applied when the cpu throttles at full frequency no int a P-States, p-state frequency and volts are predefined and cannot be changed. So if you undvolt the CPU to say 1.20 or even 1.15V with Cool and Quite enabled it will throttle to 800-900mhz with 0.9V irrespective of stable state voltage.

Thanks for clarifying Dark Star.

Yes, the latter I experience all the time, have managed to undervolt my Phenom II 965 ~3.4GHz @1.28v but the processor pulls in ~1.3v while it is between ~2.2GHz -->2.7GHz.

 

[m0h1t]

@m0h1t

Which tool are you using to monitor temperature with 4 cores?
Also my core voltages are 1.425 v at 100% load. Otherwise it is around 1.07 V with 800mhz X 4. I have also enabled cool and quiet.

I use HWMonitor, but after unlocking the core temperatures don't work and are frozen at 0c for me, I use the CPU sensor (TMPIN0) to monitor temperatures.

Unlocking mainly depend on batch and BIOS, not all batch unlock and not all mbs are able to unlock the core so its just on luck. I still remember churning the max out of my 0922apmw 550BE (unlocked @ 4ghz) *awesome days*

Anyway if he has unlocked the cores no software will be able to detect the temperature since k10.5 cores had flimsy on IC temerature monitor even with 2 core there will be disparity while judging the temperatures.

Other than that the undervolted V will only be applied when the cpu throttles at full frequency no int a P-States, p-state frequency and volts are predefined and cannot be changed. So if you undvolt the CPU to say 1.20 or even 1.15V with Cool and Quite enabled it will throttle to 800-900mhz with 0.9V irrespective of stable state voltage.

Yes I know all that and without getting into more detail, the point I was really trying to make was that try undervolting once, you might be able to unlock and still run at lower voltages than stock like me.

So @santoshwe try it once, if it works out well then great! Otherwise you know what to buy.

I started off by enabling all cores in the BIOS and made sure they were stable at stock by running OCCT for 4 hours and linpack for 30mins. Then reduced the cpu vcore by 4 steps and worked backwards to reach a stable state, everything else was left at stock.

 

[santoshwe]

Hi

Thanks for all your replies.
With 4 cores enabled, I ran prime 95 for one hour and it completed without any error. IBT also completed without any error. So it seems the cpu is stable with 4 cores and core temperatures are under the max limit with stock heat sink. I may try it again in summer and see decide to go for an after market cooler.
@m0h1t
How to read the CPU sensor (TMPIN0) temperature?

Thanks

 

[m0h1t]

Hi

Thanks for all your replies.
With 4 cores enabled, I ran prime 95 for one hour and it completed without any error. IBT also completed without any error. So it seems the cpu is stable with 4 cores and core temperatures are under the max limit with stock heat sink. I may try it again in summer and see decide to go for an after market cooler.
m0h1t
How to read the CPU sensor (TMPIN0) temperature?

Thanks

TMPIN0 and TMPIN 1 are CPU socket sensor and motherboard ambient temperature (Usually and in my case but not always)
You should be able to read them on HWMonitor or any other temperature/voltage monitoring application

Oh and btw I'm running the cpu fanless right now, tuniq tx2 is magical!

 

[santoshwe]

@m0h1t Thanks for the suggestion. I can monitor the temperature with hardware monitor. I am getting a max of 65 degress TMPIN0 while running prime95 for 1 hour. So it seems stable with stock cooler. I could not under-clock though as it was crashing.

Also in cooler master hyper tx3, can we mount the heat sink with the fan direction from left to right(horizontal) instead of bottom to top (vertical). Checking the cooler master site it seems for AMD boards we can mount only in the bottom - top direction.

Thanks

 

[ALPHA17]

@m0h1t Thanks for the suggestion. I can monitor the temperature with hardware monitor. I am getting a max of 65 degress TMPIN0 while running prime95 for 1 hour. So it seems stable with stock cooler. I could not under-clock though as it was crashing.

Also in cooler master hyper tx3, can we mount the heat sink with the fan direction from left to right(horizontal) instead of bottom to top (vertical). Checking the cooler master site it seems for AMD boards we can mount only in the bottom - top direction.

Yes there is only one orientation for AMD sockets and that is the North-South orientation; for Intel sockets it is not an issue thanks to equidistant mounting-holes the cooler can be oriented in any direction --> East-West OR North-South.

Even with the Cooler Master Hyper TX-3 I doubt you will get sufficient head-room to over-clock a lot, better get a better cooler in the form of the Hyper 212+ / 212 EVO.

Hope this helps, Cheerio!