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Just because the west dont respect everythint the way we do, does not give them the right to insult other religions.

Now if we try to make a cartoon featuring Jesus, it wont serve the purpose as the Westerners dont feel the same way we do.

Using Hindu gods on alcohol bottles, on undergarments, etc..... It is insulting. they want to insult some religion, let them insult Christianity.

And yeah, in some ways the reaction of the Islamic world has also been a bit too much. But then see it from their point of view.

Majority of muslims are already seeing this war on terror as a war on Islam. So, it is natural that they over react for this issue.
 
IMO the cartoons hurt many ppl,but the response was way toooo much overboard.Now im not saying this out of prejudice but when the images of hindu gods and goddesses (to be specific bhagavaan vishnu) were printed on even more outrageous places like toilet seats,on footwear etc. there was a peacefull demonstration against the companies which did it.
 
Its a sticky situation in a way, they love their freedom of expression and we love our beliefs. But as Kumar says it are violent protest justified ?
Extremist of any kind, will deter progress. But the worst part is how the west genralise whole sect of ppl.

This kind of stuff makes me open up more and more to the whole 'nuke the middle-east' theory.

It seems like anything will set this region on fire. If the wrong person gets bit by the wrong kind of fly, then the only solution must be war. /sarcasm

Maybe as an American, I have no room to speak because after all, we are the "world police." Obviously this would be somewhat controversial, but it is being used as a tool. People aren't reacting to the cartoon; they're just reacting the way they would have sooner or later anyways. The cartoon is nothing more than an excuse to exercise their minds. They seem to thrive off of chaos and disorder. There are a few countries that would really benefit from stability...I better stop. Not sure if we should get all R&P here, but it is kind of relevant don't you think?
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I am not trying to offend any muslims here(why should I ?? I love the Biryani :D ). If you find this offensive, please PM a mod to delete my comment.

Only a small percentage of Muslims are terrorists. And they need funds. From where do they get it?? That means a larger number of muslims support them and donate money to Madrasas and places like that.

So, I feel that there are a considerable number of Muslims who encourage terrorism. Not actively but passively by funding the actuall terrorsits.

so, when people try to say that it is only a small group of people who are misguided, I disagree. It is not as small a group as imagined. It is quite a big group. but yeah..... the MAJORITY of Muslims are definitely against terrorism .

But my thoughts are that for terrorism to have become so big, they would have needed widespread support. From where do you think they got that?
 
Its just another reason for Muslims to go on a violent strike.

I don't mean to be offensive to the religion (as there are loads of peaceful followers) but we all have to accept that some crazy Muslims who prefer killing to talking..
 
But my thoughts are that for terrorism to have become so big, they would have needed widespread support. From where do you think they got that?
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Its just majority of them are not ready to go aginst the xtremist. Thats where the whole issue, and chants like death to non believers is not solving the issue.

But one thing is there even under freedom of expression this should have been avoided.
 
A good arguement i heard on the BBC the other day is,evry time some one does an act of extremism,the other ppl in his group/religion/nationality say its the act of a small group but not the general openion/action of the whole community.If the peacefull majority does some thing to reduce theese disruptive elements and distance themselves away frm the ppl who do theese things,there is little hope for an improovement of affairs.
 
In September 2005, when the cartoons were printed,the Muhammad cartoons controversy received only minor media attention outside of Denmark. Six of the cartoons were reprinted by the Egyptian newspaper El Fagr on October 2005, along with an article strongly denouncing them, but publication did not provoke any reactions nor condemnations from either religious or government authorities. Some or all of the cartoons were reprinted between October 2005 and the end of January 2006 in major European newspapers from the Netherlands, Germany, Scandinavia, Belgium and France. Very soon after, as protests grew, there were further re-publications around the globe, but mostly in continental Europe.

Even in India these cartoons were printed:

The Times Of India , Patna Edition (3 feb 2006)
Senoir India (23 Feb 2006)

The Pics below shows the countries in which the cartoons have been printed:

1.Only the List of Countries in which these were printed



2. Along with details of Protests


And these r the details of the newspaper in which theses controversial cartoons were printed:
















Source of the above details:Wikipedia
Initially I had also thought of posting those pics but no no no ...

I dont wanna get into trouble
 
The cartoons were NOT printed in India. The map shown is wrong.

Anyway, I will restrict myself to the comments already made..... Dont want to open my big mouth and get into more trouble :P
 
One - I can't understand why people get riled up about cartoons or any other insults. Sticks and stones can break my bones but words (and cartoons) can never hurt me.

Two - Europe is hypocritical. France, Germany, Austria all have laws against hate speech. Mein Kampf is banned in France and Germany; Yahoo was forced to filter out Nazi material over there. Then why couldn't these cartoons at least be investigated to see whether they violated anti-hate speech laws?

Three - to all the Islamic extremists in India who demand we severe diplomatic relations with Denmark: worse stuff about Hindus and Hinduism, Jews and Jewism, and Christians and Christianism is printed everyday in the Gulf, and on their television. Should we cut off diplomatic relations with Saudi Arabia? That would prevent Muslims from India from going on Hajj. Do they (the extremists) want that?
 
Nikhil said:
The cartoons were NOT printed in India. The map shown is wrong.

Anyway, I will restrict myself to the comments already made..... Dont want to open my big mouth and get into more trouble :P
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Actually i dont think so tat they were printed in but when i searched in Wikipedia it said tat those were also printed in india
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy
 
Saudi Muslims are the king of double standards. It doesnt allow any religious places like Temples and Churches built over there. But when France bans those headscarves in their country, they say the West intimidates them. There is racism against Sikhs in France. Have they ever burnt 5000 cars??

I am not offending the religion of Islam but the West hates Islam more after these protests specially when Muslims claim that its a peaceful religion but never any Imam condemns Osama or issue any ' fatwa " against them and a very high %age of British Muslims claim that 7/7 and 21/7 were right.

There are innumerable cartoons against Jews published in mainstream Saudi papers

http://conservativeforce.wordpress.com/2006/02/03/more-on-offensive-casrtoons/
 
Whoever has the power will exploit, be it Bush, Saudi King or Osama. And in present scenario if u hav the power of media, u hav got it all, coz its all about packaging!

U package Islam as a violent religion, it will be perceived so.

I think Muslims need to learn a lot from Jews.

why shud any Imam condemn Osama. Why? just coz Big Brother is having trouble, why did nobody condemned UN vote on the creation of Israel, why didnt US condemned when tanks were rolled on Palestinians, Why didnt anybody condemned US when it occupied Afghanistan and Iraq? why is this said that Muslims shud do this and do that. Why? coz in this world everything is controlled by US and its allies, they provide what the whole world eats, drinks, hears, sleep etc. so everybody is bound to sing their tunes as long as they r not threatened. All over the press, internet etc ppl come across these words together "Islam" , "Violence", "Terrorism", "Osama". Anybody heard of Subliminal Persuasion?

Same is with the case of Russians & Germans, they r depicted as cruel.

Anybody know the reason why US hasnt attacked Saudi Arabia.
 
I dunno abt these danish cartoons much. But i do know this, the westerners have no damn right to codemn or talk ill of other religions. They are nothing but big time hypocrates.

Just think abt it... Do we have
anti - Hindus
anti - Muslims
anti - Buddists??
Anti - Christ - YES!! very much... you have lots of anti christ ppl who do not belong to any other religion doing black mass and crap and all that.... well, crap. I am not saying Christianity is bad or the religion is bad... its just that there are ppl out there opposing it for very long time.... just because 9-11 attacks were done by muslims... dont mean they are bad... at the same time i would go with nikhil abt the terrorist funding....
(yes probably we do have anti- 'other religion' but they would belong to a diff religion and would bad mouth the rest.)

Americans call it a "post 9-11 world"!! comical...they think blowing up two bloody towers was the most horrible thing that ever happened in the world!

There are so many christian websites which say Hinduism is crap! Do you know how humiliating it is to see Hindu gods being depicted the way they are? with alcohol bottle, in a slippers (yeah they did in France - in the name of fashion), even in toilet seats

like kumar and nikhil said in the earlier posts.... think about how the world would react if they had cartoons of Jesus in a toilet paper/seat or sandals or drinking alcohol. Christians in India would start jumping let alone the world. Ultimately the pope would start his part on it..

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Pope said:
Benedict said that "intolerance and violence are never justifiable responses to the offence (to religion), since they are not compatible with the sacred principles of religion."
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Just imagine the scene if someone did the same thing to Jesus... there would be riots....

Do the same damn thing to hindus... it should be heartily laughed!! what a world of hypocrate! (I am not saying this is what hindus do... most of the reaction is seldom taken seriously by the mass).
 
^^I have to clear a point here..to condemn a religion is a bad thing but its the way the people retaliate to such things that makes the difference..

I will remind you all about a similar incident in our very country..Maqbool fida Hussain drew nude images depicting Hindu Gods..To think about it..its an equally big crime as drawing cartoons of Prophet Mohammad. But apart from a few stray Bajrang dal, shiv sena created local incidents, what did the Hindu community as a whole do?? Nothing..did we see riots all over the country and the world for this??

First, because we all know that these things are not going to take us any where..plus hindus are not known for being overtly orthodox..those Bajrang dal,VHP a$$holes have no other better things to do than ransack public properties..so i hate them equally as any other extremists...

And even the christians arent as orthodox about their religion except maybe for a few self proclaimed underground clans. After the crusades, i dont think they ever went about cultural cleansing all over the world or even in their own countries. Christianity as a peaceful religion just like hinduism..and islam..

Extremism exist to certain level in every civilization but do you think we have such dangerous extremists outfits like Al qaida in any other religion? Islam is a religion of peace like all others but why do they breed such religious extremists and take pride in it?When an Imam says that the person who kills the alleged cartoonists will be awarded with billions of dollars, it says something, when as a priest, he should have actually asked people for tolerance and peace.. We all shud know that hatred breeds hatred.

But look at what a cartoon has done to the muslim community...dont you think they are taking it a bit too far..tolerance is the key to peace..we all should follow it and it doesnt matter if we are hindus, muslims or christians.

The point is there are far better things to do in this world, for ourselves and our families.

Unlucky devil said:
Americans call it a "post 9-11 world"!! comical...they think blowing up two bloody towers was the most horrible thing that ever happened in the world!
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It may not be the most terrible thing to happen in this world..but it was one of the most terrible things to happen..;) And dont think that only americans were killed in the two tower collapse..there were hundreds of indians and many other people including muslims killed in that attack..
 
It must be pointed out that the west (especially Europe) is predominantly atheist. They do not believe in any religion. So to equate the cartoons with a christian attack on islam and to retaliate on that basis is totally misguided.

Not that I am advocating it but it would have made it less nonsensical and more appropriate if the attacks were on Danish economic interests in the islamic world.
 
Americans call it a "post 9-11 world"!! comical...they think blowing up two bloody towers was the most horrible thing that ever happened in the world!
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That was their first interaction with terrorists

It must be pointed out that the west (especially Europe) is predominantly atheist. They do not believe in any religion.
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No they are not atheists, its just that after the fights betw science and Church, they now believe that science will cure all their problems and make their lives comfortable!!
 
TheBroker said:
No they are not atheists, its just that after the fights betw science and Church, they now believe that science will cure all their problems and make their lives comfortable!!
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friend you seem to be unaware of the meaning of the term atheist. Your statement is self-contradictory.
 
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