Forum Feedback Dealers Deals Versus Hot Deals And Discussions

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Hi ,

I unfortunately and taking a lead in asking this question, I have no idea what the reaction of the mods would be to this .please correct me if i am wrong .

Hot deals and discussions :my observations

  • this area in TE is created so that members can post some hot deals going on some website or some promotion going on .its also mean to create a interest check and then get some orders and ask TE dealers or others
  • my observation is that there are few threads that are just meant for killing a dealers deal and just for selling .there is no rule and regulation that is followed by the thread creator .that is not a hot deal and neither its a ic .its a flat dealer type thread created by a non dealer .
  • the thread creators do not even pm and ask the dealers and this applies to dealers also .can some kind of rules be followed or created to create a system of some kind .

Hot deals and discussions :the finer points what i as a TE dealer think
  • i think that there are many dealers in TE who are active but no one knows that .time and again they try to divert discussions to a perticular shop/person at xyz place and city .
  • these so called dealers just waste lot of our effort like
    • saying x item @ x price ,then they take might be 1 week to 4 weeks to get even a single product .during this period our dealer sales take a nose dive as peeps say if x hot deal creator can get that price you also should be selling @ x price .but x price is not possible by us most of the time as that deal is not for x price .so after many many days and weeks as the thread owner in hot deals and discussions cannot sell more cos he did not have more quantity in the first place ,he will sell 1 or 2 items odd .after that we sgain are able to sell as peeps understand that sometimes a dealer is a dealer .but then some other item hot deal starts ,this goes on and on .
  • when some person creates group orders again and again is it not the duty of the mods to ask him why is he creating so many group orders again and again,cos if his itch in selling is that great then he should be also paying the dealer fee like us and get into the arena of a dealer .i as a dealer feel very uncomfortable with this .

Hot deals and discussions :what can be done
  • well first of all i am not against anyone selling for less .when someone sells for less we are forced to take on our suppliers head on and get explanation from them as to why x person is able to sell at our rates - x price .sometimes the suppliers do oblidge as i am sure that all members will agree that we dealers are not making million and trillions in selling
  • some kind of a rule that states that if a dealer or a member ,or a disguised trader :p wants to create a deal in hot deals that has nothing to do with hot deal or a genuine ic should pm the market mod in keeping in loop the dealer or dealers that are selling similiar products @ what ever rates .after the discussion @ that level finishes he should leave or start a go in this section and might be that deal should be stopped @ dealer level or something .
  • also the mods should be extra vigilent to understand and get an idea to stop certain members from creating go again and again .
  • mods @ TE should also take into account from thread creater some facts like
    • billing
    • warranty
    • estimated time "this helps bogus deals from holding our sales .
    • shipping etc
ps :i might remember few more things once someone replies to this .infact the dealer competition here i so hard that opon our reguest dealer access fee was also reduced by our very able mod team. Thanks guys :) .
 
Some good points...

But, seriously, your caps on the first letter of every word... its not easy on the eyes:death: Quit this weird habit sir :disguise: ... :please:

Edit: wow, thanks... you corrected it.
 
One side of the coin:

any member, who may be re-sellers in disguise but not TE registered dealers or operate deals for some external dealer, should be blocked under Hot Deals section

how to find it...not easy , but some member who keeps creating many GO's frequently - should be identified and made to become a regd. dealer to continue

The other side:

Members who create a IC/GO taking pains to identify some hot deals and putting his valuable time to create a GO from some contact offering product @ great prices should be encouraged..This is in benefit of the community

and Regd dealers should stop trying to affect the GO's by posting there

They have their own section, if they can get a better price, then they have every reason to open a similar deal on DP

the buyer can decide which one they want

In the end, better products and best prices is what is needed by the community members, doesn't really matter where it comes from

and TE is foremost a tech community(core) than a Dealer paradise (add-on)

Its NOT a NP/Lammy or a Ritche st
 
Spectre said:
One side of the coin:

any member, who may be re-sellers but not TE registered dealers and operate deals for some external dealer, should be blocked under Hot Deals section

how to find it...not easy , but some member who keeps creating many GO's frequently - should be identified and made to become a regd. dealer to continue

The other side:

Members who create a IC/GO taking pains to identify some hot deals and putting his valuable time to create a GO from some contact offering product @ great prices should be encouraged..This is in benefit of the community

and Regd dealers should stop trying to affect the GO's by posting there

They have their own section, if they can get a better price, then they have every reason to open a similar deal on DP

the buyer can decide which one they want

In the end, better products and best prices is what is needed by the community members

and TE is foremost a tech community(core) than a Dealer paradise (add-on)

Its NOT a NP/Lammy or a Ritche st
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Reply To Second Point ,

There is No Hassel In a Hot Deal ,The Hassel Is when it a Deal .As Far as Benefiting The Community is Concerned We All Do that ,We Dealers Also Are Quoting Our Best Rates Keeping in Consideration the competition and our area of operations .

In Benefit of The Dealers Then The Members Should Stop Posting Ebay And Other Website Direct Links In Dealers Paradise Section .I Would Also Like To Draw Your Attention To What i Wrote Can You Please read the entire text once more .

Also We Indians are following Some rules and Regulations Set by Govt Of India For Trading ,Should There be No Law And Regulation What Is Being Traded And How its being regulated .If a Group Order Is There We should be asking all legit thingies even before its created .Infact Hot Deals And discussions Section Should Have Some set of rules and regulations that are posted flat as sticky ,All New Threads Should Not Be Allowed Until That Section Mod Has Approved It ,even after its approved constant check is very important .

Take This Example :

  • Rate For Item in Delhi is 100 Rs .So i Want To Sell it in Chandigarh And i Give a Proper Form C To The Vendor And Get it To chandigarh @ Rs : 100 + 2% Against Form C .My Cost Rs :102/- For i Keep a XYZ Marjin And Sell The Same ,As Now The Product is in chandigarh and chandigarh is another state so when i sell it i have to charge VAT @ 4% .This Takes My Cost 2%+4% More Cos i Am Just Following Law And Rules .On The Other hand someone just goes to delhi and gives money and sells in chandigarh caring 2 hoots about any law ,Cos he is cheaper does that mean only people like this will survive in our country or there should be some rule and regulations ,I am not saying make all rules for members posting GO i say make for all Like Dealers
    • Whats the dealers Permanent Address
    • Some Trade References
    • Does He Have Valid [ VAT Reregistration ]
    • Does He Issue Proper Bills
    • Whats The Warranty And How Does He Honour things And Warranties .
    • So Forth And So On .......
 
I dont think we have yet seen any member who keeps on posting in Hot Deal sections regularly, before the Hot Deal Section I guess it was only Dingemini who used to have a regular GO of Dell items(and again every1 knows that he was no dealer, whether he had a cut or not is a different thing and I guess not relevant now since he doesnt create anymore GO's), ofcourse a non registered dealer if any, should be identified and be made either to payup or taken away the rights to post any future deals.

In any case, personally I dont find any relevance of the topic(till some1 finds any sorta suspicious member), and it has been a habbit of Amarbir to wake up from his slumber every few months and he gets active on the forum and tries to stir up some sort of controversy.
 
Not again :P

Are sales so low paaji?

Worldwide we are seeing clearance sales, rebates/discounts on IT hardware, in INDIA we see only one thing " DOLLAR IS UP"

First seal those issues with the manufacturers/distributors/etc etc, then we all are sure Dealers can post the BEST deals here :)

Why not talk with AMD/Intel/Dell etc for better prices citing low sales to do something or somewhere reduce margins/ladders/people from manufacturer to retailer?

Ladder--- Manufacturer (dell/Intel)---- Importer---- National Distri---- regional Distri---- Area Distri ---- Market Distri/Stockist----- retailer

May be I am OT, but PRICING will always be the king for volumes and INDIAN Dealers never understand that. Prove this as false to me and I will keep quiet :P

I see shops/business in consumer retail/FMCG giving discounts so much that its below their pricing just to increase voumes...but nothing here :@ . Go DIE Indian hardware market :@

GET US SOME HOT DEAL and then speak ! Your last HOT deal was 640AAKS @ 3.6k shipped AFAIR :P
 
My guess is that this thread was prompted by my thread. In case the dealers are worried, mine is a one time deal only and will last only untill next Monday or so.
 
Not speaking as a mod here but just as an member.

If a member is able to get a deal at cheaper prices then whatsoever is available on TE or outside TE would be considered to be a hot deal.

And be assured we do keep a look and whensoever we find somebody suspicious on TE we ask him to give clarifications and if we are not satisfied we stop the GO.
 
why the fuss , a hot deal has a better deal of xyz product get a better price, if you cant , find out why he has a better price simple , everything is power of money simple, u buy xyz stock of one thing for a better price sell at a lowe margin simple as that . and come on guys te is not end of the world for the market section .
 
I dont understand why TE dealers need a GO or a hot deal to wake up and reduce prices..

And even if outside dealers are creating proxy threads, they are saving the members many thousands more that what you guys pay as TE fees..so look into that aspect too, This is not the normal market where there are ignorant people and can be fooled easily..

I really feel like laughing when you guys cry about loosing your right to make people pay more than the fair price of the product..wow..:rofl:

If other dealers can give lower prices for watever reason, and your sales go down, its time to introspect your own supply chain or as Supra said, your profits, instead of crying abt it on TE
 
you are a dealer. you have to pay fees, overheads, taxes, transportation, paperwork etc, fine. It adds to your cost? fine.

Okay.Suppose my dad is the importer/distri of xyz brand thingamajigs. i ask him, dad , can i have some of your thingies at cheap ? , and sell it to my friends at my cost.

and this is my fault that my prices are lower than yours?
 
I totally agree with Supra pov, everyone would like to save money where they can. Dealer or not dealer doesn't matters until the source is reliable.

Considering all those who are tagged as dealers should have more contacts with regional and national distri then rest members. And Ideally their deals should be kick ass then of any other offered here.

And if there is someone who beat their price they should do a retrospect and come up with better price, that's how it's supposed to be.
 
greenhorn said:
and this is my fault ?
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maybe not, but he will try his best to get you out of the supply chain, by hook or by crook, afterall he needs to feed his family

(I am so sorry, but this is one of his line that I cannot forget)
 
thebanik said:
maybe not, but he will try his best to get you out of the supply chain, by hook or by crook, afterall he needs to feed his family

(I am so sorry, but this is one of his line that I cannot forget)
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That shows the destructive thinking..No one can help someone thinking this way..in the same sense wil you go and purchase from him a 10k thing for 1lac? Come on, the extra90k wil help him feed his family too..
What one must remember is that such hot deals are
a) Short lived. his father cant give out all for no margin
b) if its a dealer and he can deliver at this price then mate you arent competitive enough, go do something else:(
c) Lastly, you are paying just token money to TE, it not a very large sum.
d) Have competitive spirit, be innovative, crying a on a board where people scour for low price deals, is a disaster in itself.. I mean look at you dealers, none of you have a half decent site..KMD is still making his site since 2yrs, with investment in six digits..i really wonder whether you guys want the cake or just the cream..
 
^ Well the amount of fee is not small by any means, try churning out that much of profits you would know what i am talking about.

AND HOW GOOD MEMBERS ARE HERE , I KNOW them , some have to the extent ASKED FOR MONEY :P from ebay for free stuff. SOME HAVE STARTED TO IGNORE even on chat forget PM's, AND THEY ARE ALL OUT HERE POSTING BIG . its better people just shut this thread.

and amarbir just forget it , think of innovation or better idea's and sell , or products were you can rip the people here its common business sense, if you cant earn on a product dont sell it. there is a whole range of things one can sell , its just that one must be willing to sell it.
 
[quote='Amarbir[Chandigarh]

In Benefit of The Dealers Then The Members Should Stop Posting Ebay And Other Website Direct Links In Dealers Paradise Section .I Would Also Like To Draw Your Attention To What i Wrote Can You Please read the entire text once more .

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When we go to buy some xyz product from a retailer, he quotes X price, when a well informed buyer says 'Hold on - the price of the product currently is Y (less than X)' and cites the source/another shop

what does a retailer do...does he starts abusing and criticize him

No, he calls up his disti and either offers at the same or better price or simply says - 'sorry i cant give at your quoted price'

so, when some members cites a good price for the same product by citing the source..why don't the dealers go back and check that pricing with the distri's and if one cant offer that price..its the dealer's call

Also We Indians are following Some rules and Regulations Set by Govt Of India For Trading ,Should There be No Law And Regulation What Is Being Traded And How its being regulated .If a Group Order Is There We should be asking all legit thingies even before its created .Infact Hot Deals And discussions Section Should Have Some set of rules and regulations that are posted flat as sticky ,All New Threads Should Not Be Allowed Until That Section Mod Has Approved It ,even after its approved constant check is very important .
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When i find a product from XYZ shop at the best pricing what is avbl in market, I am taking effort/time in raising a thread for benifit of others and sometimes going one step forward in organizing a GO

why should i provide proofs, undergo checks, submit ration card/voter id :bleh:

heck, i am trying to link a better deal, not undergoing police verification

if the price is not good, other members can simply post and say its not a good deal, EOS...there is no concept of lowballing in a Hot Deal section, everyone is trying to get a best price for their own purchase
 
This discussion is getting pretty heated.

From my point of view anyone interested in selling more than a few of a certain I item should pay a fee. Its only fair to other sellers on the forum.
 
^^^What? Charge someone who's getting us a bargain? How about being fair to us regular members too? I don't think TE is forcing dealers to sign up. If they can't make a profit, they can become a regular member and stop dealing.

I like the dealer deals here, but who doesn't love a bargain???
 
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