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Reflect over what I underlined, maybe you will understand.rishabh.asthana said:
I have nothing more to say, and BTW how can an argument be selfish? :lol:
@rishabh.asthana no let me again clarify that I do not work for amarbir.have not met him,have never been to punjab and i live currently in the southernmost state in india.
secondly I have no current purchases with amarbir.
The reason for all this hate filled posts derive from a simple issue.Some people do not like amarbir's attitude.The issue again is that say few of the deals have not worked out according to the satisfaction of both the parties.Now these people whenever they get a chance jump on amarbir citing the previous dissatisfied deals.This is not the first issue.Same people same rants time and again.
People who have not seen the actual issue tend to believe that amarbir has cheated them.That is not the case.
I am not supporting amarbir blindly here.OP created a malicious thread full of disinformation.He says amarbir had been removed.That is not the case.Based on this mischevious title he rants on.That is not fair.
He has posted politely in this thread.Give the guy a break.You all have heartbreaks but dont you guys move on.
Again like i said if you wish to do a trade with amarbir do it else dont do it.Hitting the guy with the same old stuff over and over again is just unfair.
hatters suggestions are excellent.Let the mods implement it.
secondly I have no current purchases with amarbir.
The reason for all this hate filled posts derive from a simple issue.Some people do not like amarbir's attitude.The issue again is that say few of the deals have not worked out according to the satisfaction of both the parties.Now these people whenever they get a chance jump on amarbir citing the previous dissatisfied deals.This is not the first issue.Same people same rants time and again.
People who have not seen the actual issue tend to believe that amarbir has cheated them.That is not the case.
I am not supporting amarbir blindly here.OP created a malicious thread full of disinformation.He says amarbir had been removed.That is not the case.Based on this mischevious title he rants on.That is not fair.
He has posted politely in this thread.Give the guy a break.You all have heartbreaks but dont you guys move on.
Again like i said if you wish to do a trade with amarbir do it else dont do it.Hitting the guy with the same old stuff over and over again is just unfair.
hatters suggestions are excellent.Let the mods implement it.
@ Mr. Johnie and the associates...
As much as you guys like to support amarbir in each and every thread, so shall the once who suffer like to warn the others about what he did with them.
ok so i will try to break down the situation to you and you judge if that is dissatisfaction or cheating.
Based on a True Story...
Suppose i am a registered dealer..
Suppose Amarbir is selling HD5850 1GB for 14k...
and i create a deal for HD5850 1GB for 13k... (assuming im big shot and if amarbir can get it for 14k then i can get for 13k)
naturally some would pay me for a hot deal like that...especially when the status on my site for 5850 shows in stock (actually i havent even ordered or received any stock)
now a few days after receiving payment i start getting calls from the customers..
and to their surprise, i say those are out of stock...ordering new stock... customers still keep their cool considering it is only a matter of days..
well a week goes and customer calls me for refund... but sorry.. i dont refund..it is my policy!!
but bam!! its 2months now and HD5850 is already at 12.5k!! and your dear dealer is yet to receive his stock..
and then you get your HD5850 for 13k delivered.
So you would term this dissatisfaction ?
or cheating ?
your POV is that getting products late is dissatisfaction.
and our POV here is blocking money without having stock actually at your end is cheating.
tomorrow i will create a 100 piece GO for Phenom II X6 1055T @ 8k and then deliver it to all those people when actual market price becomes 7.5-8k...
assume you are one of those who ordered and is eagerly expecting it in promised 'within a week's timeframe delivery'.
although i promised ready stocks before making payment... but then it is not my fault that i didnt get the stock in the time i assumed so i will abuse you over fone..
what will you do??
I'm sure you will be wise enough to term even this as dissatisfaction..!!
If indeed, then please post so, i am willing to register as a Dealer and take the opportunity to take payment for many 1055T X6 ... i will use your money for my investment purposes until prices of 1055T X6 fall to that range.
As much as you guys like to support amarbir in each and every thread, so shall the once who suffer like to warn the others about what he did with them.
ok so i will try to break down the situation to you and you judge if that is dissatisfaction or cheating.
Based on a True Story...
Suppose i am a registered dealer..
Suppose Amarbir is selling HD5850 1GB for 14k...
and i create a deal for HD5850 1GB for 13k... (assuming im big shot and if amarbir can get it for 14k then i can get for 13k)
naturally some would pay me for a hot deal like that...especially when the status on my site for 5850 shows in stock (actually i havent even ordered or received any stock)
now a few days after receiving payment i start getting calls from the customers..
and to their surprise, i say those are out of stock...ordering new stock... customers still keep their cool considering it is only a matter of days..
well a week goes and customer calls me for refund... but sorry.. i dont refund..it is my policy!!
but bam!! its 2months now and HD5850 is already at 12.5k!! and your dear dealer is yet to receive his stock..
and then you get your HD5850 for 13k delivered.
So you would term this dissatisfaction ?
or cheating ?
your POV is that getting products late is dissatisfaction.
and our POV here is blocking money without having stock actually at your end is cheating.
tomorrow i will create a 100 piece GO for Phenom II X6 1055T @ 8k and then deliver it to all those people when actual market price becomes 7.5-8k...
assume you are one of those who ordered and is eagerly expecting it in promised 'within a week's timeframe delivery'.
although i promised ready stocks before making payment... but then it is not my fault that i didnt get the stock in the time i assumed so i will abuse you over fone..
what will you do??
I'm sure you will be wise enough to term even this as dissatisfaction..!!
If indeed, then please post so, i am willing to register as a Dealer and take the opportunity to take payment for many 1055T X6 ... i will use your money for my investment purposes until prices of 1055T X6 fall to that range.
@madnav
very naughty of u to address me as @ Mr. Johnie and the associates...
who am i associated with?.I am trying to be fair here.first people say i work for amarbir and then now you club me as an associate.not fair.please do not pigeonhole me.I have not done so and common courtesy dictates that you do the same.The policy of divide and rule is not good.
well lets leave that aside.
What you have said happened in the past.This is the present.Mr Amarbir's states that he will sell only things which are in stock now.Cheating is taking money and then not returning it or not delivering the product.All the threads i have visited which dealt with amarbir no one says that he has taken the money and not delivered the product or he has not refunded the money.agreed hatter had a bad experience and so do some people.This under any stretch of imagination can be called cheating.It can be called bad service,immature service(like abusing people)etc.
In the above scenario which you have described 1055T X6 that is fraud with the intent to cheat.The term intent is more important.Agreed you placed an order and amarbir could not get the items due to inavailabilty or for some reason and not for the reason you implicity give above.You are making another sly accusation that he is taking the money with the intent to cheat.
Now since amarbir has stated explicitly that he will sell only things which he has in stock then your above accusation does not hold water.
My point is few people have had this thing happen once or twice.does this mean that you go on hammering him every time you see him.He has changed his policies.so wait and see.
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cheers.
very naughty of u to address me as @ Mr. Johnie and the associates...
who am i associated with?.I am trying to be fair here.first people say i work for amarbir and then now you club me as an associate.not fair.please do not pigeonhole me.I have not done so and common courtesy dictates that you do the same.The policy of divide and rule is not good.
well lets leave that aside.
What you have said happened in the past.This is the present.Mr Amarbir's states that he will sell only things which are in stock now.Cheating is taking money and then not returning it or not delivering the product.All the threads i have visited which dealt with amarbir no one says that he has taken the money and not delivered the product or he has not refunded the money.agreed hatter had a bad experience and so do some people.This under any stretch of imagination can be called cheating.It can be called bad service,immature service(like abusing people)etc.
In the above scenario which you have described 1055T X6 that is fraud with the intent to cheat.The term intent is more important.Agreed you placed an order and amarbir could not get the items due to inavailabilty or for some reason and not for the reason you implicity give above.You are making another sly accusation that he is taking the money with the intent to cheat.
Now since amarbir has stated explicitly that he will sell only things which he has in stock then your above accusation does not hold water.
My point is few people have had this thing happen once or twice.does this mean that you go on hammering him every time you see him.He has changed his policies.so wait and see.
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please check this thread.Hope u will have a clear answer.Darky said:
http://www.techenclave.com/market-feedback/lynx-india-amarbir-feedback-thread-175449.html
cheers.
Party Monger
Juggernaut
Reading what you type and how blinded you are to not even see genuine reasons, makes me believe that you are one of those from amarbir's shop who look after the online work..johnie1 said:
If u genuinely want to find why such a thread was made read right form the first post with a open mind..
If not, dont mind if people ignore you, cause, if running away with money is the only form of cheating you know, then there's nothing more to discuss..We differ right there..
@partymonger
every person has got god given brains.Now what a person wants to believe it is upto him.I cannot prove/disprove what you think in your own brain.so feel free to think whatever you want to believe.
you have at all times in whatever thread amarbir's name has been mentioned you malign him.Ok you are unhappy with him/you are offended by him.How many times has the same issue been thrashed by you?.
Now amarbir has no issues and you try to create one based on past issues.Is it fair?.Even the title of this thread is malicious.Why so much hate?.
second dude i really dont mind if people ignore me.I believe in fairness.I cannot dictate another persons behaviour.The only thing which is under my control is my behaviour.So no i do not mind if people ignore me.
third you ask me whether running away with money is the only form of cheating.The answer is no.Broken promises etc dont constitute cheating but if a person wishes to give something to another person at a certain day and if he cannot due to unavoidable circumstances then that is not cheating.If a person deliberately says that he can promise a thing knowing that he cannot fulfil that commitment that is cheating.
In amarbir's case there were so many reasons.Health/customs/local distrubutors etc.How do you know that it was not true.likewise how do you know it was true.
Based on this scenario you thrash him whereas you cannot form a firm opinon here.
finally the abusive part is not good on anybodys part.be it the customer or the retailer.He has bought in new policies.So why dont you give him the benefit of doubt.
well one piece of advice.Its better to be forgiving rather than carrying the grudge till you die.It will be beneficial to your health and sanity.
cheers
every person has got god given brains.Now what a person wants to believe it is upto him.I cannot prove/disprove what you think in your own brain.so feel free to think whatever you want to believe.
you have at all times in whatever thread amarbir's name has been mentioned you malign him.Ok you are unhappy with him/you are offended by him.How many times has the same issue been thrashed by you?.
Now amarbir has no issues and you try to create one based on past issues.Is it fair?.Even the title of this thread is malicious.Why so much hate?.
second dude i really dont mind if people ignore me.I believe in fairness.I cannot dictate another persons behaviour.The only thing which is under my control is my behaviour.So no i do not mind if people ignore me.
third you ask me whether running away with money is the only form of cheating.The answer is no.Broken promises etc dont constitute cheating but if a person wishes to give something to another person at a certain day and if he cannot due to unavoidable circumstances then that is not cheating.If a person deliberately says that he can promise a thing knowing that he cannot fulfil that commitment that is cheating.
In amarbir's case there were so many reasons.Health/customs/local distrubutors etc.How do you know that it was not true.likewise how do you know it was true.
Based on this scenario you thrash him whereas you cannot form a firm opinon here.
finally the abusive part is not good on anybodys part.be it the customer or the retailer.He has bought in new policies.So why dont you give him the benefit of doubt.
well one piece of advice.Its better to be forgiving rather than carrying the grudge till you die.It will be beneficial to your health and sanity.
cheers
he was a clever ass , he resigned before he wud have been eventually removed , because he didn't want to carry the tag of being removed from both the forums ,
so he played smart that time , saved that day to come back again here ,
so he played smart that time , saved that day to come back again here ,
i have no problem with what he stated now, i already said im supporting it.johnie1 said:
that reply of mine was an answer to as 'why OP and others oppose him in general everywhere..
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'unavailability of stock' is one thing
and then Presenting your customers that you have stock when you do not is another thing.
His website clearly mentioned 'available in stock'
forget website, that is what he said when people called and asked just before paying. and the after payment he says it is out of stock...
the thing is that it was never in stock with him.
now this is fraud or incapability..?
i see it as incapability on his prediction part and fraud on the monetary part.
you said he did not refuse refunds..
but money was blocked for a very long time..and in that time frame the people would have opted for an alternative.
not cheating yet?
once again i would like you to remind that im replying with respect to your and Mephistopheles's 'claim' about how PartyMonger and other malign amarbir's image.
what i have realized so far is that when an argument is presented about that then you revert back to how amarbir promises to change things now.
as for now, there is nothing to argue more.
i was just tried explaining why partymonger and others try to warn others and that was all about it.
now it is upto the mods to make sure amarbir works as he promises.. and that can happen only if he decides to deal on the terms and conditions drawn by TE for TE members.
and do you really think he came back for member's good?
he obviously ordered leet audio gears which he cant sell without TE it seems.
it seems some people learn only when they have it the hard way.]
PS: You are the best customer any dealer can ever have.
exactly he has come back here only to sell his stock here which no one eventually in chandigarh wud buy ,vey few to say the least , so he needs TE , all those who support him and want to deal with him , why dont u just go to his site and order thingsmadnav said:
u know his website , then y do u need TE for that,
just because he is here u get a mental assurance that he will deliver , is it so??
y do u need TE for dealing with him , just go to his website and order stuff if u want so desperately
Party Monger
Juggernaut
I wrote all this in good faith, to make you see that none of us here have any personal vendetta against him, we have suffered at his hands and yet when posting over here, none of the hatred spill through..It all makes sense if u again read with an open mind..johnie1 said:@partymonger
every person has got god given brains.Now what a person wants to believe it is upto him.I cannot prove/disprove what you think in your own brain.so feel free to think whatever you want to believe.
I wud say the same to you, yet knowing that you wont understand i'l still try..
you have at all times in whatever thread amarbir's name has been mentioned you malign him.Ok you are unhappy with him/you are offended by him.How many times has the same issue been thrashed by you?
Yes cause i've been through wat those OP's have gone through, i can understand their pain..When you buy from amarbir, at first he'l be all candy floss, and the minute you transfer the amount his attitude changes..Suddenly there are unforeseen delays, and problems..Just to prove you, a fellow member once ordered and then a 2 days later amarbir said that he checked and the said item is not in stock now, stuck in customs or something, i call amarbir the next day asking for the same item he says its in stock..And the same member calls every alternate day and its stil not in stock? What wud have happened if i had ordered? same thing that happened to that fellow member.. Two days later he wud have said, its not in stock plz wait a month..
He has this tendency to try and fool gullible people, keep no opinions on that.
Now amarbir has no issues and you try to create one based on past issues.Is it fair?.Even the title of this thread is malicious.Why so much hate?.
Oh suddenly one day he turns a saint? Look at his reply in this thread man, he's not sorry, he doesnt condone wat had happened..he doesnt really care abt anything else as long as he gets his profits..And if u allow him to be selfish in that part then why can u see me being selfish in way, for not being in favor allowing him to ruin TE's image more than he already has?
second dude i really dont mind if people ignore me.I believe in fairness.I cannot dictate another persons behaviour.The only thing which is under my control is my behaviour.So no i do not mind if people ignore me.
You can say that a thousand times and still know in ur heart that u care
third you ask me whether running away with money is the only form of cheating.The answer is no.Broken promises etc dont constitute cheating but if a person wishes to give something to another person at a certain day and if he cannot due to unavoidable circumstances then that is not cheating.If a person deliberately says that he can promise a thing knowing that he cannot fulfil that commitment that is cheating.
Exactly, but tell me how many times will you call it a coincidence before u say it is deliberate? give it a number and we'l see how many times this has happened to members! Just above i've showed you an example of how he tries to fool ppl sometimes, no its not cheating in ways of money, but its cheating their trust
In amarbir's case there were so many reasons.Health/customs/local distrubutors etc.How do you know that it was not true.likewise how do you know it was true.
Based on this scenario you thrash him whereas you cannot form a firm opinon here.
Let me ask u the same question, how do u know they were true?
You dont right?
He's the dealer na? he shud be giving a correct time frame, how he does it is none of our concern, and if its humanly impossible to do that, then say clearly that there is no guarantee when things will reach..
finally the abusive part is not good on anybodys part.be it the customer or the retailer.He has bought in new policies.So why dont you give him the benefit of doubt.
And lets sacrifice the trust of many more members just cause there is a change in his policies..
You dont know wats at stake here, you've not been a member long enough..Over time you will realize.
well one piece of advice.Its better to be forgiving rather than carrying the grudge till you die.It will be beneficial to your health and sanity.
Absolutely true, but wat do i do when i have no grudge? The basic premise of you going after me is that i have a grudge against him, i dont!
As a person he's no different to me that u or most of my TE friends are, but as a dealer he's cause harm to TE's reputation, he's caused unrest, he's broken protocols..
Trust me, a lot of time has gone by and almost every member who has posted in this thread has tried to make him see where he is wrong, and even now, his attitude hasnt changed one bit, its just smoth talk to get through the storm, and back to old ways when the storm is gone..
cheers
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Forerunner
Yes Nash, that wasn't cool at all. :no:
You may have your reasons against Amarbir, but that is totally uncalled for.
I have been observing in silence, mostly shocked. What the hell happened to this place
This used to be a nice forum to learn things but now its all market feedback and ebay coupons.
You may have your reasons against Amarbir, but that is totally uncalled for.
I have been observing in silence, mostly shocked. What the hell happened to this place
This used to be a nice forum to learn things but now its all market feedback and ebay coupons.
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