Guide Definitive Guide to Distinguishing Between AMD Athlon X2 Brisbane and Windsor Cores

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Well there have been numerous people asking how to distinguish between Brisbane(65nm) and Windsor(90nm) parts of the AMD Athlon X2 Series.

First up a little basics

Windsor Core is 90nm core that is to say the transistor size used is 90nm, there are miliions and millions of transistors in a single processor all of this size.

Brisbane Core is 65nm and is the latest entry from AMD's front. It uses transistor size of 65nm and thus is able to pack more transistors efficiently on a single die.

What does that mean to the end user?

Well there have been numerous people asking how to distinguish between Brisbane(65nm) and Windsor(90nm) parts of the AMD Athlon X2 Series.

First up a little basics

Windsor Core is 90nm core that is to say the transistor size used is 90nm, there are miliions and millions of transistors in a single processor all of this size.

Brisbane Core is 65nm and is the latest entry from AMD's front. It uses transistor size of 65nm and thus is able to pack more transistors efficiently on a single die.

What does that mean to the end user?

1. They consume less power, dissipate less heat

2. Brisbane cores tend overclock way better then Windsor Cores

Due to these advantages and much more it makes sense to get a Brisbane Core processor rather then the Windsor Core for AM2.

Since Old Windsor Core processors are still floating around we must identify a Brisbane Core from the Windsor before purchasing, that is before opening the box.

How to Diffrentiate between Brisbane and Windsor?

Currently Brisbane Core Processors from AMD come in following flavours

1. 3600+

2. 4000+

3. 4400+

4. 4800+

5. 5000+

As reference I'll be using this image, open it and enlarge it to maximum size.

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1. Clock Speed : All Brisbane Core Processors except 5000+ have ODD Frequency Speeds, that is

Brisbane Core :

3600+ : 1900 Mhz

4000+ : 2100 Mhz

4400+ : 2300 Mhz

4800+ : 2500 Mhz

5000+ : 2600 Mhz

Notice that all speeds except for 5000+ has odd speeds i.e 1900, 2100 etc.

All equivalent Windsor Processors have even clock speeds which are :

Windsor Core :

3600+ : 2000 Mhz

4000+ : 2200 Mhz

4400+ : 2200 Mhz

4800+ : 2400 Mhz

5000+ : 2600 Mhz

Speed of the processor can be checked on the top of the box as in the image in the top right corner.

2. Cache : Another way to Identify Brisbane Cores is by checking the L2 Cache Size (also on top of box, top right corner in the image). This is not a sure shot method like the previous method as some Windsor Cores also have the same Cache size. I will here mention only those models which have different Cache Size for both the cores.

Brisbane Core :

3600+ : 640+640 KB

4000+ : 640+640 KB

4400+ : 640+640 KB

4800+ : 640+640 KB

Windsor Core :

3600+ : 384+384 KB

4000+ : 1152+1152 KB

4400+ : 1152+1152 KB

4800+ : 1152+1152 KB

As you can see all processors except 5000+ can be identified easily from the above two methods.

3. Product Code :

To identify X2 5000+ as Brisbane or Windsor you need to Check the OPN Code written on the top of the box (at the bottom of the attached image)

The OPN Code for Brisbane 5000+ is :

ADO5000DDBOX

The OPN Code for Windsor 5000+ is :

ADA5000CZBOX

or

ADO5000CZBOX

As you can see, the model no. is mentioned after the first three letters, the object of interest is the next alphabet, which has been bolded here :

For Brisbane Core this letter should be : D

For Windsor Core this letter should be : C

This method can also be used to identify the lower end models of Brisbane Core making this method suitable for identification of all Brisbane Core Processors i.e. 3600+, 4000+, 4400+, 4800+ and finally 5000+.

Credit goes to thexfactor for letting us know about the OPN code funda and to all the members who participated in this thread

http://www.techenclave.com/forums/how-distiguish-between-brisbane-windsor-cores-92087.html

Somethings were also referred to from the following link.

Fab51: AMD Socket AM2 OPN data



Deepak
 
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Even after that better not comment in public (send me a PM), cause if ur frn finds out u got him a windsor...lol....
 
Hey nicely put together ... I'd have sued you had you not mentioned me :P ... anyway you and 200mph are really doin a gr8 job keep it going :)
 
LOL ... I dont need any bhailog's ... just a teenager I know from te who stays in Delhi is enough to mentally torture both of you to an extent where you forget everything remotely related to computers :P

btw maybe we should take this offline
 
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