dell studio XPS 7100. ULTIMATE VFM?

[kookitan]

guys check out the pricing on the dells new studio xps. for 49,900 (+1500) u get :

AMD Phenom(TM) II X6 1035T
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64bit Edition (English)
1-year XPS Premier Service with 1-year CompleteCover
Dell™ ST2210 21.5†Full HD Widescreen Monitor (1920x1080)
6gb ddr3 ram 1333 mhz
750GB SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
ATI Radeon HD 5450 1GB DDR3
Dellâ„¢ 2.1 Multimedia Desktop Speaker System
Dellâ„¢ Wireless Desktop Keyboard and Mouse
there is an option to upgrade to a 5870 for around 12k while customization.
the 2.1 speakers are really awesome, ive used them before. seen ppl offer to pay upto 5k for those speakers an u cant even buy them as a stand alone product from dell.

for 50k u get a 6 core cpu with 6gb ram, 750 gb hdd, 21' full hd monitor, wireless keyboard and mouse, 1 year 24x7 complete cover...

The Dell Online Store: Build Your System

 

[Gannu]

Damn the 5870 upgrade for 12k is totally worth it! :O

64k and a lipsmacking config desktop replacement!

Edit: Meh it's a desktop. One can build a better rig for that price that'd beat this PC's arse to the moon. :\

 

[coolraghav]

for once i thought its laptop :S .. desktop and branded ? a big no no

 

[Arun.P]

^ big lol and the dell is less greedy for sell good desktop at better steal offer and avoid assembled pc

 

[unixguru]

Damn the 5870 upgrade for 12k is totally worth it! :O

64k and a lipsmacking config desktop replacement!

Edit: Meh it's a desktop. One can build a better rig for that price that'd beat this PC's arse to the moon. :\

There is no way you can get htis desktop in India for less than 65K. Here is the aprroximate breakup
Phenom II 1035t- 8500
Amd 785G motherboard ddr3 - 5500
6 GB DDR3 1333 MHZ- 8000
Dell Monitor - 9000
1 GB Radeon 5870 - 24000 !
Case + 460 W certified power supply - 5000 (guess ?)
Hard Drive + DVD - 4000
Wirless mouse _+keyboard - 1500
Speakers - 2500
Bargaining with dealer brings down price to 65k. I have not counted the price of windows 7 64 bit which would be atleast another 3000.

 

[Gannu]

Phenom II 1055T - 10k?

Gigabyte MA78GMT-USB3 - 6k?

4gigs DDR3 RAM - 8k?

Sapphire 5870 1GB - 22k?

Dell 22inch LCD - 9k?

DVD burner - 1k?

1TB 7200.12 hard drive - 3.5k?

Corsair VX450 - 3.5k?

NZXT Gamma - 2k?

Wireless input devices - 1.5k?

WIndows 7 64bit starter pack -3k? (Oh well LOL!)

Totals to 69.5k - those figures are rounded off to nearest whole numbers. And that this rig would smoke Dell's configuration. Needless to say, this PC can be overclocked as well.

Let's face it - branded desktops would never beat an assembled one no matter how you see it.

 

[chiron]

^^ dunno, doesn't that cut it a little close? Apart from the smaller hdd and processor (which is only 0.2ghz slower) the two rigs are identical. Someone who would prefer a branded pc definitely won't care for the nzxt gamma and their power supply anyway has to be good enough for the 5870 so it would be decent too.

 

[unixguru]

Is this some kind of joke? How exactly is this going to smoke dells configuration? It is not more than 10% faster. You also did not include the price of the speakers. As far as I know, any XPS branded desktop supports overclocking. As this is an AMD processor, it certainly supports minimal overclocking through AMD Overdrive and anyway as turbo core is enabled by default in all thuban core processors, it automatically overclocks by upto 500 Mhz for lightly threaded apps and for heavily threaded apps you obviously do not need to overclock.

Phenom II 1055T - 10k?

Gigabyte MA78GMT-USB3 - 6k?

4gigs DDR3 RAM - 8k?

Sapphire 5870 1GB - 22k?

Dell 22inch LCD - 9k?

DVD burner - 1k?

1TB 7200.12 hard drive - 3.5k?

Corsair VX450 - 3.5k?

NZXT Gamma - 2k?

Wireless input devices - 1.5k?

WIndows 7 64bit starter pack -3k? (Oh well LOL!)

Totals to 69.5k - those figures are rounded off to nearest whole numbers. And that this rig would smoke Dell's configuration. Needless to say, this PC can be overclocked as well.

Let's face it - branded desktops would never beat an assembled one no matter how you see it.

 

[manu1991]

And that this rig would smoke Dell's configuration. Needless to say, this PC can be overclocked as well.

Care to explain how this would smoke the Dell PC ? With a 200 Mhz faster processor (which you can get on the 7100 for 2k more BTW) , 2GB less RAM and you also forego a premium edition of windows . Also you get a a single warranty for the entire PC . No running around if something goes wrong .

Most importantly , are you sure about the overclocking part . I know Intel original motherboards are non overclockable , but AMD doesnt make its own mobo's . So ?

This is indeed excellent VFM , I personally believe a markup of ~ 5% over the cost of a similar assembled machine is justified for the peace of mind you get .

 

[Gannu]

Alright, 'smoke' would not have been the most appropriate word considering the difference in the processor clocks and the minimal performance upgrade it would bring about. Apologies!

But I'd like to bring about few differences here.

First off the overclocking part - although most XPS desktops let you tinker around with the settings, there has been no mention of this part in the page displayed. Wouldn't an aftermarket motherboard be any day better than an OEM one? Same goes for the RAM sticks as well. They would not feature heatspreaders. We have about 10+ different models of the Dell precision workstations here including the most recent dual Xeon setup - none has heatspreaders for the RAM modules. The only advantage here would be the aftermarket heatsink that Dell bundles for the processor cooling. I am yet to see a stock AMD or an Intel heatsink being used for the desktop system.

As far as the 'single warranty for the entire PC' goes, Dell provides a standard warranty of 1 year inclusive of the Complete Cover so essentially if the warranty expires a year of usage, none of the OEM components in the bundle get warranty. Or unless the user opts for paying an additional amount to get the warranty coverage. The support team addresses the issue onsite which is the probable advantage.

The option of upgrading the components in the future is limited - BIOS updates are minimal so if AMD manages to release newer processors on the same socket which may require a BIOS update, you are at Dell's mercy! Not to mention the limited space available inside the enclosure. The specs read 2 3.5" bays and 2 5.25" bays - where do you manage to store all the data when you decide to buy additional hard drives?

This PC is ideally for someone who has lots of moolah to splurge on a system and would not want to go through all the hassles of reading through the several reviews, deciding upon the components, after-sales support issues and so forth.

 

[stalker]

This PC is ideally for someone who has lots of moolah to splurge on a system and would not want to go through all the hassles of reading through the several reviews, deciding upon the components, after-sales support issues and so forth.

Except,

Even after reading through several reviews, deciding upon the components, after sales support issues and so forth, you'll still be spending more on the machine you'll be assembling yourself

 

[Sei]

Phenom II 1055T - 10k?

Gigabyte MA78GMT-USB3 - 6k?

4gigs DDR3 RAM - 8k?

Sapphire 5870 1GB - 22k?

Dell 22inch LCD - 9k?

DVD burner - 1k?

1TB 7200.12 hard drive - 3.5k?

Corsair VX450 - 3.5k?

NZXT Gamma - 2k?

Wireless input devices - 1.5k?

WIndows 7 64bit starter pack -3k? (Oh well LOL!)

Totals to 69.5k - those figures are rounded off to nearest whole numbers. And that this rig would smoke Dell's configuration. Needless to say, this PC can be overclocked as well.

Let's face it - branded desktops would never beat an assembled one no matter how you see it.

They are offering Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. Much better (and pricier) than Starter pack. Also 1-year XPS Premier Service with 1-year CompleteCover. I never thought I would say this, but I really think that its worth it if you include the 23 incher and the 5870 (rest all to default).

 

[madnav]

i would just like to point out that the branded destop may not carry the hardware with specs similar to what is available in market for consumer level.

for example.

the 5870 may have degraded specs and components to work well with supplied psu.

also as pointed out, the warranty on individual parts..which again..is longer than OEM..is something one would really appreciate while purchasing a rig at that price point.

can't speak much until proper specifications about the components are known.