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EDIT: Infected queries concerning a 30inch display and multi-GPU setups continues here. :P

Infected said:
I think my 580 will be ok for now, I hope atleast till the next gen comes out, I am not into Xfire or SLI, so I will have to hope that the 580 is good enough to game at 2560x1600.
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AnandTech - Bench - GPU11

The GTX 580 barely manages there. Besides newer titles haven't been included in the bench either.
 
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Yeah for newer games, I dont know if it can keep up :(

But I will not be turning on any AA at all at that res. no point IMO...Hope that will help get a few more FPS.

But looking at 30FPS for the BF2 waterfall benchmark breaks my heart, need more GPU I guess...

And if I do get that 30incher, then I will not wanna scale down any res at all but run it on its native max...Now I dont know what to do....I think its best to still wait till next gen cards come out to make this move to 30 inchs I guess....
 
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^cranky has been using a 3008WFP for over 3 years now I guess and he began with a crossfire setup. The 3-slot Palit Revolution 700 4870X2 IIRC. With a massive resolution like that, I suppose multi GPU setups are the way to go if you need decent frames for the titles with good IQ.
 
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^^ Call me ancient or whatever but I still shy away form Multi GPU setups..:( (Xfire of SLi)

Thats whyI either wait of just game with a little less quality till the next series is out...
 
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Infected said:
^^ Call me ancient or whatever but I still shy away form Multi GPU setups..:( (Xfire of SLi)

Thats whyI either wait of just game with a little less quality till the next series is out...
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For the type of scale you are contemplating, doubt a single card (single core) will be able to scale it on the panels full resolution. That is why multi-GPU is there. Probably the next refresh will still not have enough harnessing powering from the hardware. Think wisely before you buy the screen.

:)
 
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@LORD: I am really sorry for this thread being hijacked.

@Gannu: is it possible for youto please Edit the non relevant stuff from here and put in all in another thread with a relevant topic in a relevant Subforum ( If possible, we are ruining Lords thread here.)

Well, I am set on the screen, but its just a matter of time :) wait till more GPU power comes in or now.

Another question is how well do the games I usually play scale mostly FPS, Racing, RTS and Action Adenture ones...More like m looking forward to Rage, BF3, MaxP3, Skyrim you guys know what I mean....

M going thru some benchmarks to see how well the GTX 580 does, I just dont like the idea of SLI or Xfire, too much Heat, too much Electricity, MicroShuttering, too much Noise (Unless we add water), and that too not even linear scaling ie performance varies a lot form title and or engine to engine so it is a hit or a miss.

I am not adverse to the idea of more than one GPU, but I am just not sold on it yet.
 
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M going thru some benchmarks to see how well the GTX 580 does, I just dont like the idea of SLI or Xfire, too much Heat, too much Electricity, MicroShuttering, too much Noise (Unless we add water), and that too not even linear scaling ie performance varies a lot form title and or engine to engine so it is a hit or a miss.

I am not adverse to the idea of more than one GPU, but I am just not sold on it yet.
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Not really. I have been a XfireX user for over 2 years, and that too with 4x series when they were extremely buggy. If your cabinet is well ventilated and you keep it dust free (either A/C environ or periodic cleaning) heat can be managed. Plus fan profiles are easily tweak-able via front end apps, or BIOS modifications and hard flashes...! Power consumption will be greater vs. one card -- but heck you are getting more performance, nothing comes free. Micro-stuttering is a myth now with updated drivers. I moved to 11.8 with Deus Ex and things are smooth -- am sure 5x,6x rev1, and 6x rev2 are much better. ATI has good apps which let you tweak profiles and remove (if any) mStuttering. Scaling is really good these days. Have played most of the FPS games since 2008 and probably can remember RFG and Bulletstorm not realizing Xfirex. Probably if I had played around with the systems I could have got it to work, but was lazy. Not selling you mult-gpu, but laying out some mere facts. :)
 
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^I had a 4850 crossfire setup when it was launched and although the performance increase was noticeable the stuttering and bad scaling in some titles spoiled it. The only game wherein there was a huge difference was Crysis ofc. One card conked out after a brief period of usage and started artifacting. Kept it aside and the system was running on a single 4850. Switched to a 4870 later.

PS: I don't have the privileges to move the posts/threads from this section. Gaming/consoles/market. :P
 
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Infected said:
@LORD: I am really sorry for this thread being hijacked.

@Gannu: is it possible for youto please Edit the non relevant stuff from here and put in all in another thread with a relevant topic in a relevant Subforum ( If possible, we are ruining Lords thread here.)

Well, I am set on the screen, but its just a matter of time :) wait till more GPU power comes in or now.

Another question is how well do the games I usually play scale mostly FPS, Racing, RTS and Action Adenture ones...More like m looking forward to Rage, BF3, MaxP3, Skyrim you guys know what I mean....

M going thru some benchmarks to see how well the GTX 580 does, I just dont like the idea of SLI or Xfire, too much Heat, too much Electricity, MicroShuttering, too much Noise (Unless we add water), and that too not even linear scaling ie performance varies a lot form title and or engine to engine so it is a hit or a miss.

I am not adverse to the idea of more than one GPU, but I am just not sold on it yet.
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I tried a 4870 crossfire when I got my new monitor (2560x1600). Had stuttering problems in quite a few games. This was at around the Catalyst 11.2 drivers I think. Sold both and got a single 6950. I have to drop settings in a few games, but I am OK with this till some 7 series card comes out that can run everything on a single card.
 
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PS: I don't have the privileges to move the posts/threads from this section. Gaming/consoles/market.
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We are really boycotting the thread...Should PM a global mod I think :)

NOw I am really confused.

I read a few benchmarks, and really I dont think a gtx 580 is enough to max out the setting at that res. like you all said and mentioned. And I am still not satisfied with SLi or Xfire, maybe a Single Dual GPU solution next time around till then I will use my 580. And like maybe what "WhatsinaName" suggest AA off and drop down a few settings, the CPU will last me a while, so now I wait for the next series.

I saw the benches of the BF 3 Alpha and at 1080p the GTX gives an avg of like 60 and max of like 75 FPS, so at 1600p it will make it literally unplayable...Rage I guess should do a bit better but id alone knows that as of now.

I need a monitor as I would like to move the plasma to the living room and keep it for PS3, movies and TV, what it is supposed to be for, not that it is causing me much harm here, but it just dont look right on a computer desk now does it? and don't want a small Display at all, now that I am used to the 42". So the only one I could come up with this one, now the res. issue, what to do? Too confused.

Oh well....I think I should just get it and then reduce tad bit of IQ, and FSAA and I should be ok for now, till more or much more powerfull stuff comes out. Its not that I am gonna stop using the monitor any time soon, sure enough in about a year or so we will have the GPU power to drive this res as well.
 
Dell U3011 Discussions.....

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I have requested the MODS to please paste the discussion from another thread below so that we dont hijack that thread and as well as this information for other members in a separate thread. Thank you. :)
 
i dont mind discussing the monitor but since i dont have one to talk about ill just keep shut

that is unless someone wants to buy me one :D
 
^^ waiting for the thread to be merged by the mods....there has been a lot of discussion already in another thread :)

MODS: Thanks for moving the posts :)

Now where does one source this monitor from, next to impossible to find someone with 'em in stock.

I have gotten 4 different quotes from 4 different dealers....and they range from 78K from Dell itself to 68K from Ebay.in

and TE dealers. I wish to collect it form somewhere in Mumbai and not looking to get it shipped as I would like to save on Octroi as well as I dont wanna have the risk or patience getting it shipped down.

How do I go about it? Any help would be much appriciated.
 
I've been using multi-GPU since 2008. First using two 9600GT in SLI, then upgrading to a 4870x2. The 4870x2 is not a pure Crossfire card even though both GPUs are visible to the driver. The physical bridge is on the card itself.

So if you get a GTX590 or the HD6990, you can expect similar results. Which will usually be a little lower than two of the tier two cards in Crossfire (2x6950:6990 or 2x570:590).

Micro-stutter is sometimes a problem and sometimes not. In the beginning the card itself was very new and there were significant issues. At this stage of drivers the same games run beautifully. I used to play Oblivion and at 2560x1600 I would get a max of 45fps with everything turned to 11. Today with the same card, game and screen I get around 70fps with butter-smooth gameplay.

Remember game programmers will push current hardware to the max (or even hardware you have never seen) for realism's sake. So if you get the largest possible screen and the latest games, be prepared to shell out big bucks for your GPU if you want to get the best experience, because that is how game devs design it. For less capable hardware, you will have to accept tradeoffs.
 
Aside the technical aspects, what is the best place to buy the monitor in India? I think the lowest I have seen so far is for 74k at Primeabg

Considering the next version of the U30 won't be here for a while, I'm going to pull the trigger on this one pretty soon. I'll be moving to a different town soon and I want a monitor rather than a tv for my consoles and macbook, so I still have some time left.
 
Why do I keep coming back to this thread....???

I think now that the newer 28nm GPU's are coming out,
it seems one can finally play at the native res. with one GPU...maybe thats why I am reading this again...

Humm...New Years wishlist I guess.
 
^^Nope.

7970 still is a question mark (example: Metro 2033) at high/max detail and AA at 4MP resolution. Overclocked is a lot better but still under 30FPS.

Of course you can sacrifice some IQ and it will be fine, but why would you want to do that? Game development only moves forward so GPU power will be compensated by more demanding games.

Traditionally card ~40% of the cost of the top end and used in multi-GPU will always better than the top single card. Look at GTX 460/560Ti, 6870, 5850 - historically this is how GPU power/cost has scaled.

What has changed from the old days is the level of improvement in multi-GPU scaling. nVidia got that right a long time ago, and recently AMD followed. Almost without exception we are seeing 70%+ scaling in Crossfire and SLI.

The only fly in the ointment is motherboard cost because of two high-speed slot requirement.
 
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