CPU/Mobo DFi RD580 weird layout :-/
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Well this time around i will be more inclined towards the Asus board rather than DFI.
If at all i can manage to get RD580 based board,it has to be the Asus mostly.
Also the DFI layout isnt that bad.But yes they should have changed the chipset cooling solution,same old stuff which is known to develop problems later on...
If at all i can manage to get RD580 based board,it has to be the Asus mostly.
Also the DFI layout isnt that bad.But yes they should have changed the chipset cooling solution,same old stuff which is known to develop problems later on...
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The only problem which is see with the layout is the FAN Headers and the Sata connectors... The Fan Headers at the bottom of board will give a little trouble and so will the USB connector in the middle of the board... The sata Connectors if could have been turned 90 Deg then would have worked awasome...
1)Why is this layout bad ? please give valid reasons and not the usual excuse of the gfx card touching the NB h/s etc ....this is well known to the m/b mfgr's during the design of the m/b itself but there must be some very valid reasons the chipset cannot be moved much further away from the cpu and the pci-e slots.
2) Is passive cooling an optimum choice for a cheap m/b ?
The heatpipes required for passive cooling will add about another Rs. 1K to the cost of the m/b.
3) imho active cooling is good enough for these class of cheap, value for money m/b's. most of the fan issues are because of bad user maintanence practice. the fans electronics do not fail, the fans get clogged with dirt and the bearings get stuck, this is the reason for the fan not working as the initial torque required to start the fan blade rotation is greater than what the onboard(fan not the m/b) fan speed / regulator/ sequencer ic can supply. This happens much more in our dusty environment here in India. using a simple filter in front of the intake fans greatly helps in reducing this problem.
2) Is passive cooling an optimum choice for a cheap m/b ?
The heatpipes required for passive cooling will add about another Rs. 1K to the cost of the m/b.
3) imho active cooling is good enough for these class of cheap, value for money m/b's. most of the fan issues are because of bad user maintanence practice. the fans electronics do not fail, the fans get clogged with dirt and the bearings get stuck, this is the reason for the fan not working as the initial torque required to start the fan blade rotation is greater than what the onboard(fan not the m/b) fan speed / regulator/ sequencer ic can supply. This happens much more in our dusty environment here in India. using a simple filter in front of the intake fans greatly helps in reducing this problem.
hunt3r said:
you have any idea about its retail price ??
as compared to the current top end m/b's from dfi, asus , msi which is in the region of usd $ 200 , these m/b's are gonna be priced much lower. somewhere in the region of 60 ~ 70% of the cost of the current but outdated top end nf4 chipset based m/b's
deejay said:
The Retail Price is set to be around $150 which is near high end. how can u call it cheap n VFM? The point i was gonna make is that spending say $5 or $10 more on putting in passive cooling would have been much better and if ur gonna spend $150, $5 or $10 more wouldnt have mattered to you.
was just checking out the prices of the released asus m/b. as expected the retailers are making a fast buck by selling it for around $200. hope to see it settle around $145 in a few days/weeks after the initial craze for it and when more brands come in.
@ hunt3r, passive cooling would not entail just the cost of heatpipe it would need better and bigger heat sinks at the other end and many would say a fan even. the passive heatsink on the chipset would be of copper. all this will increase the cost by atleast $20. considering the production runs is in the region of 1,00,000 or more pieces per month per ur average mfgr this is a huge amount.
passive cooling will be introduced in future premium versions of the board at about $50 premium over the normal boards. if they have the time for it that is, as soon everybody would be into socket AM2 version of the m/b.
@ hunt3r, passive cooling would not entail just the cost of heatpipe it would need better and bigger heat sinks at the other end and many would say a fan even. the passive heatsink on the chipset would be of copper. all this will increase the cost by atleast $20. considering the production runs is in the region of 1,00,000 or more pieces per month per ur average mfgr this is a huge amount.
passive cooling will be introduced in future premium versions of the board at about $50 premium over the normal boards. if they have the time for it that is, as soon everybody would be into socket AM2 version of the m/b.
Deejay Sir, I too hope to see it around $140-130 in a months time, if theres no shortage.
@ Hunt3r, dude you want High end?? Check the Intel/Asus 975X boards. Or say AOPEN 975X for YONAH, you'll get High end. I would say this board is going to be mainstream kind, DFI is a different story as the OC features they provide. I expect Asus, ABIT (except Fatal1ty) and MSI to be in somewhat same price catagory with RD580.
@ Hunt3r, dude you want High end?? Check the Intel/Asus 975X boards. Or say AOPEN 975X for YONAH, you'll get High end. I would say this board is going to be mainstream kind, DFI is a different story as the OC features they provide. I expect Asus, ABIT (except Fatal1ty) and MSI to be in somewhat same price catagory with RD580.
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