Dishwasher: Bosch vs Midea

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I don't think that anyone here would have these two dishwashers at their home to compare but asking nonetheless -

I have to buy a dishwasher and I have shortlisted Bosch 12 Place Settings Dishwasher ₹42k and
Midea Torrino 13 Place Settings Dishwasher ₹30k.

Obviously, Bosch is an established brand in this deptt and I have read many many positive reviews here and on team-bhp about how efficient it is at cleaning utensils, even for Indian dishes.. Do you think Midea would be as good at cleaning utensils as Bosch? Coz some people on Flipkart did mention that utensils need to be pre-rinsed, which in case of Bosch I don't think is needed.

..BUT there are a few very negative reviews of Bosch regarding their Service Support. I am from a Tier 2 city and I am really doubtful about the support I may get from Bosch. Though I don't have any idea about support from Midea (which is parent company of Carrier) either.

I was of the opinion if the Midea DW works as efficiently as Bosch's and its customer support is also similar to Bosch's, I could save some money and go for Midea DW. Kindly guide.

PS - I was about to buy the same Bosch DW before Lockdown for ₹28k from FK but the family didn't see any use for it then and thought I was being spendthrift and didn't let me buy. Haha.
 
I got 2 acs from midea and they are working very well. They were absolute value for money plus they are made in the same factory of Carrier.

Not sure about Dishwasher, but you could probably be safer with Bosch. Air conditioners are easy to fix or replace, dw should be far more complex for any service engineer to address.
 
The Bosch price seems such a rip off. I can see that this new model is very similar to my model which I bought for 24.5k 2 years ago and even you could have bought it for 28k. So paying 150% of the original price makes little sense considering you might not even have service in your area. I live in a village and have been using the dishwasher for 2 years without any issues. But I would never get any Bosch service over here unless I pay astronomical visit charges. So if anything goes wrong, I'll have to do some DIY repairs. This is true for most of my appliances and I also have a Bosch washing machine for 6 years now.
I would say, if Midea has even a little presence in your area then go for it. You seem to have done your research on it and their products still seem to be priced reasonably. As others, even I can't comment on the quality aspects of the Midea as I have no clue about them.
 
I saw this in a store recently , there is a 4k premium for the steel finish. The same thing in white was 37k after a 10% discount
 
bottle said:
I saw this in a store recently , there is a 4k premium for the steel finish. The same thing in white was 37k after a 10% discount
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I am interested in Steel one only. The other one may need more maintenance to keep it rust and scratch-free imo.
 
xkcd0137 said:
I am interested in Steel one only. The other one may need more maintenance to keep it rust and scratch-free imo.
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Not true. Will your dishwasher be installed in a place where there is standing water. If not then how does rust come into the picture. Bosch also sells a cloth cover for their DW and WM. I have one installed on the DW and there isn't a single scratch on it in 2 years. Also I had used it for more than a year without that cover and there still weren't any rust issues or scratches on the DW. Same for my WM which doesn't even have a cover.
 
rdst_1 said:
Will your dishwasher be installed in a place where there is standing water.
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No.. but I am wary of moisture. I didn't say that the White one is scratch or rust-prone, but its just that with steel one there would be additional reason for not to worry.

Though I am sure about getting a DW, I am not sure where will I keep it. There is not much space around or below taps/sink to keep the DW. There is space in kitchen but its almost 4-5 feet from the Taps. I'll mostly decide after I get the DW, will get better idea about its dimensions then.
 
xkcd0137 said:
No.. but I am wary of moisture. I didn't say that the White one is scratch or rust-prone, but its just that with steel one there would be additional reason for not to worry.

Though I am sure about getting a DW, I am not sure where will I keep it. There is not much space around or below taps/sink to keep the DW. There is space in kitchen but its almost 4-5 feet from the Taps. I'll mostly decide after I get the DW, will get better idea about its dimensions then.
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I had similar issue. However, I was getting plumbing work done so I was able to get a point installed for the DW. It won't fit under a sink for sure as it's height is almost similar to my shelf height. Main issue I had was of a drain so I have kept a bucket next to it in which the DW drains the water and we empty it later. One can get extensions for both drain pipe and inlet pipe though, if needed.
 
rdst_1 said:
Main issue I had was of a drain so I have kept a bucket next to it in which the DW drains the water and we empty it later.
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Thanks for mentioning that. I wasn't even thinking about the drainage.

I may have to go for a temporary arrangement of DW on a stand with wheels right in front of the sink, i guess.
 
I got this Bosch Free-Standing Bosch Free-Standing 12 Place Settings Dishwasher (SMS60L18IN) from Amazon for some Rs 28000 during a sale with credit card discounts. Very happy with the purchase. No issues so far fortunately.

I have midea inverter AC which is also good quality / performance wise.

Whichever you choose better to wait for Sale.
 
xkcd0137 said:
I am interested in Steel one only. The other one may need more maintenance to keep it rust and scratch-free imo.
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Thats a good point, even I was thinking to get stainless steel finish for this reason, I have a washing machine with the powdercoat which is on the terrace in a room and free of water and placed on a stand and still ended with rust issues
 
bottle said:
Thats a good point, even I was thinking to get stainless steel finish for this reason, I have a washing machine with the powdercoat which is on the terrace in a room and free of water and placed on a stand and still ended with rust issues
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Can you think of any reasons why this could have happened? Is it getting rusted from places where the powder coat might have gotten scratched or is it happening despite of there being no scratches on the machine.
Even I love SS finish no matter how mundane or industrial it might make the kitchen look but paying a premium of more than 10% just for the finish makes it a little less palatable.
 
Only thing I can think off is leakage from the powder drawer, or because it is on the terrace with large windows moisture from rains got to it. I am looking to get a dishwasher which will be in kitchen and will see far more dampness and contact abuse so will probably go the ss route
 
I had bought Siemens DW during lockdown. I researched then and was told that Bosch had acquired Siemens and is selling Siemens in Metros and Bosch in Tier2/3 towns but both Machines are similar except for cosmetics and Brand.
Now Bosch DWs are imported from Turkey and had a solid quality control. I am using it for 4 years now and am very happy with it. I am using Fortune DW Detergent with it.
If I am in your place, I will go for Bosch and will also take extended warranty of 3 yrs if I have concerns .
 
@speccy48 I recently bought the Midea unit for 15k. The Bosch was at least 45k or so.

Given such a large price difference, does the Bosch still come out superior? The Midea unit does an excellent job IMHO, I don’t have a personal experience with Bosch, but still I find all vessels squeaky clean even after an Eco wash on the Midea.
 
Real test will come when maintenance has to be done then we will see what this Midea can do. Everyone is going through honeymoon phase with Midea.

Why do the others charge more. Because a service network does not come for free. Midea presumably has no such network in place and can price lower.
 
Even with maintenance, I don’t see how paying 3x makes sense. Would I get 3x the result/value? Others also come with 2 years of warranty so post warranty repairs would be out of pocket anyway.

Coming to service network, the installation person came next day of delivery, better than LG person who took 2 days and repeated follow ups and escalations (in Bangalore). A relative who purchased the Midea in Kerala, also got a call next day for installation.

The primary issue that I see is part availability, most of the repairs anyway will be just swapping parts. So if the required part is not available, that would be a challenge. However given the price, I’m willing to take that risk.
 
Better after sales service with these so called larger companies is a Myth. Had enough trouble - Apple, Sony, LG, Samsung, etc. Better go for value with the Chinese offerings and replace the product as they go kaput. Luckily it's been smooth sailing with them since a decade and complete value has been extracted for me. Some people on these forum are Anti-China and they will try their best to discourage you from going for any Chinese product. I care about value and incremental gains. Paying 3x for Bosch won't give you 3x better cleaned dishes nor they are going to give you 3x better A.S.S.. Cost of Bosch's some spares + labour will some times even exceed the latest model of the Midea machine with better tech and more efficiency.
 
MrGordon said:
Even with maintenance, I don’t see how paying 3x makes sense. Would I get 3x the result/value?
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They are undercutting to get access to the market.
MrGordon said:
Others also come with 2 years of warranty so post warranty repairs would be out of pocket anyway.
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Yes, the punchline is whether they have the parts or not. Otherwise you're looking at a new purchase when you wouldn't need to.
MrGordon said:
Coming to service network, the installation person came next day of delivery, better than LG person who took 2 days and repeated follow ups and escalations (in Bangalore). A relative who purchased the Midea in Kerala, also got a call next day for installation.
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Installation is easy. Take a look inside the dishwasher and see how much plastic there is. If anything breaks as it will then you will need spare parts.
MrGordon said:
The primary issue that I see is part availability, most of the repairs anyway will be just swapping parts. So if the required part is not available, that would be a challenge.
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Correct. That's what I said earlier.
MrGordon said:
However given the price, I’m willing to take that risk.
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We will know in a few years whether it was worth it or not. Bosch is the best of both worlds right now. LG on the higher end.

Nobody wants to try Beko? Reason is doubts about parts availability. For dishwashers they are worth looking at. At least the larger 13/14 seat ones and not the dinky table top kind.
 
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