Do you trust completely, your data is safe on cloud ?

Do you trust cloud as trusted backup of your data ml

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Futureized

Futureized

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After all cloud is nothing but, storing your data on someone else's computer.
Do you rely on this backup medium completely?

What is your current backup strategy?

To begin:
1. I have all my data on a 2tb ssd always connected to main PC.
2. Important DATA on cloud
3. Planning to add 3rd option, but not very expensive (like external hdd, plug n play when required)
 
Relying on a single physical device isn't safe-you need a backup of your backup. An encrypted online drive ensures lifetime accessibility and protection against failures.

My strategy is simple. 1 ssd and always online backup whenever possible.
 
Also highly recommend kopia to anyone looking for a backup solution. Cross platform and supports de-duplication. It does encrypted backups as well which makes it great. I just created a mount using rclone to backup my most of the important items
 
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Futureized said:
After all cloud is nothing but, storing your data on someone else's computer.
Do you rely on this backup medium completely?

What is your current backup strategy?

To begin:
1. I have all my data on a 2tb ssd always connected to main PC.
2. Important DATA on cloud
3. Planning to add 3rd option, but not very expensive (like external hdd, plug n play when required)
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I saved all family photos & Videos in Google Photos and data in Google Drive. All invoices that I have regarding in house all appliances & PC parts are saved a personal folder in GMail. Seems to be that I need to extend my Google One storage to 100GB now.
But I clear & clean my phone storage every month so that unnecessary photos & videos dont get uploaded to Google One storage.
I have a backup USB pen drive of all photos & videos but I fear that it might get corrupted after some time. All my 5-6 years old pen drives arent working now and sometimes does not even get detected. Thats why Cloud Storage is the way to go I think.
 
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I saved all family photos & Videos in Google Photos and data in Google Drive. All invoices that I have regarding in house all appliances & PC parts are saved a personal folder in GMail. Seems to be that I need to extend my Google One storage to 100GB now.
But I clear & clean my phone storage every month so that unnecessary photos & videos dont get uploaded to Google One storage.
I have a backup USB pen drive of all photos & videos but I fear that it might get corrupted after some time. All my 5-6 years old pen drives arent working now and sometimes does not even get detected. Thats why Cloud Storage is the way to go I think.
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If u don't mind paid alternatives then something like Backblaze or Hetzner are amazing. I've used Hetzner storage boxes in the past and they work quite well with Rclone and other protocols.
 
One way to ensure the security of your personal data on the cloud is to use an encrypted hoster like mega.io

Their paid plans allow you to store higher amounts of data and all of it is encrypted with your personal key. You can export the key to a text file and save it on the PC or an external drive which allows recovery in case you lose your password credentials. Free plans allows upto 20Gb of data and once you are convinced about the data - you can shift over to paid plans in case you require more backup space.

They have resellers who give accounts for lesser, I think we may find a few here on the forum as well.
 
VeraCrypt creates encrypted file containers that are better suited for local storage rather than cloud storage. This is because any change within a VeraCrypt container requires the entire container to be re-synced, whereas Cryptomator encrypts individual files, allowing for more efficient cloud syncing.
 
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ssingh said:
VeraCrypt creates encrypted file containers that are better suited for local storage rather than cloud storage. This is because any change within a VeraCrypt container requires the entire container to be re-synced, whereas Cryptomator encrypts individual files, allowing for more efficient cloud syncing.
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Yepp so what u can do is use rclone to mount your cloud storage. I used to do this with Google drive and onedrive for college emails, and i do it now for hetzner storage boxes.

But yes, like u mentioned it might be better to use cryptomator instead of veracrypt for cloud services. Or u could also just do a backup through kopia/borg and store it in cloud.
 
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My strategy :

1. I have a folder in which I dump all files to be backed up.

2. There is an automated script which

2A . Makes tar archive, and splits them into file sizes of 100 MB or less.
2B. All these files are encrypted
2C. rclone copies them into S3, onedrive, or Google drive (it keeps changing, I have not decided on one of them)

3. The files required to extract from backup (gpg keys, passwords of cloud services, scripts to join together the files etc.) are all backed up separately in cloud. This part is less than 10 kB.

4. I want to test a backup extraction every 6 months, but it's been 3 years. This step should assume that my house has burnt down, and except the cloud backup I have nothing left.

5. In parallel, I have periodic backups using cron jobs within the computer of those folders to be backed up. They are not separately encrypted, they are much easier to extract from as they use rsnapshot. The whole hard disks are of course encrypted.

I have still lost data in the past when I was less rigorous with backing up. Sometimes it is as simple as losing the encryption keys or passwords of the backups.
 
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Well try reading the terms & conditions
Even google doesn’t take responsibility for data losses though it has never happened as far as i know
I have a dedicated hdd for storage
 
Futureized said:
Do you rely on this backup medium completely?
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While there is an extremely slim chance that any of the big cloud providers are gonna lose any of our data, it's still better to have a personal local backup, just in case.
Service Level Agreements could help compensate for some loss, it ain't gonna bring that data back.
So no, I don't rely on them completely. But I am also not delusional enough to believe that I can conjure up a solution that surpasses them either.
I think it's better to mix them both in your backup strategy.

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What is your current backup strategy?
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Automated 3-2-1 backups using Duplicacy (CLI for now, might move to GUI next year but so far it's been good).

- Select folders for backup.
- Add them to Duplicacy.
- Modify backup schedule script if needed.
- Backup Number 1 - A couple of local HDDs. Chunked de-duplication and delta backups, so saves a ton of space.
- Backup Number 2 (every 24h at 3am) - HDD backups synced to cloud (Backblaze B2). Encrypted locally before sending.
- All Encryption keys and Passwords stored in 1Password so that I never lose them.
- Same backup procedure for my VPS. Cloud backup happens to the same B2 bucket to take advantage of cross machine de-duplication.

So far I have around 250GB of data which costs around $1.5/month on B2.
Once I cross 1.6TB, I'll move over to Backblaze Personal which offers unlimited storage for $9 (although I'd have to use their proprietary backup software, which is an acceptable trade since I'm using Windows right now anyway).

Every 12 months I do a pull from B2 and do an integrity verification. Local verification happens every 3 months.
 
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kage said:
Service Level Agreements could help compensate for some loss, it ain't gonna bring that data back.
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Its just useless honestly, I was a lastpass customer since more then a decade.
2 years back, had to retrieve 2 attachments stored while paying for my account first time on lastpass.

Those 2 attachments were gone from lastpass servers.
What they were ready to give me in compensation was 3 months of extended lastpass for free.
I denied, made social media posts, informing users to check there attachments and moved to other provider.
 
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Its just useless honestly, I was a lastpass customer since more then a decade.
2 years back, had to retrieve 2 attachments stored while paying for my account first time on lastpass.

Those 2 attachments were gone from lastpass servers.
What they were ready to give me in compensation was 3 months of extended lastpass for free.
I denied, made social media posts, informing users to check there attachments and moved to other provider.
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That sucks :/

Lastpass is terrible honestly. Gets broken into every couple of years and apparantly doesn't even safeguard user data. So much for a password manager lol.

But yeah I agree. SLAs usually don't do much on a consumer level. Business level SLAs are another beast, but even they cannot offer much more than the agreed upon monetary compensation. It's better to keep tabs on our data as much as we can personally.
 
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