CPU/Mobo Dual-Core CPUs: Intel Pentium E2160 and Pentium E2140, New Budget OverClocockers

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Actually at stock both the e2140 and X2 3600+ should perform similarly if the benchmarks for higher end proccy's between the 2 families are anything to go by, so some one looking for a stock run can very well use any of the 2.

The problem ofcourse comes again with the m/b with no Intel m/b with onboard GPU's providing DVI or h263 acceleration.

BTW, weren't the 7050's suposed to be produced for both Intel as well as AMD??
 
E 2160 looks very good priced 1k below the E4300 is good. only thing now being that release a good cheap motherboard like the jetway
 
viralbug said:
i would like a comparison of 2160 with 4300. :)
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EH?:S Why dude ? :S See the 2160 is beating X6800 and u wanna see E4300 see the cart posted by super_saiyan :clap: Really I can't wait to get my hands over it :yahoo:
 
LOL...slept after posting the earlier info :P

anyway , at the shop yesterday when i went, i asked the guy if e2140 has reached there....he was clueless at first...then suddenly one distri rep comes & shows the shopkeeper....& omg I notice its a E2140. I asked the Ingram Micro rep abt the price....he says something to the dealers & finally tells 3.4k...the dealer later told me, this is a startup pricing as its very new...prices will settle arnd 3.2k +tax or arnd 3.4k all incl by 10 days. E2160 is not yet imported so might take 1-2 weeks to appear.

I dnt see any point in buying the E2160 as that will be 4k min with taxes. The E4300 is retailing for 4750 all incl in bangalore

As of X2 3600+ positioning now, prices have crashed again , its nw 2650+tax...some more cuts in July 2nd week....arnd 2k , I am wondering AMD must be making loss in selling this proccy :rofl:...they better give it in some sweepstakes as giveaways :rofl:
 
From the link :

Legion Hardware

Clearly the more cache the better when it comes to the Core 2 Duo processors. This was evident in games such as Far Cry, which saw a 31% rise in performance when moving from the 1MB to the 4MB L2 cache. Other games such as X3: Reunion also saw a 28% performance increase for the 4MB cache over the 1MB cache processor. Clearly those looking for maximum performance are going to give the E4000 and the new E2000 series a miss.
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Moving away from games for a second, the larger 4MB L2 cache is going to be just as important in powerful applications such as Adobe Photoshop, Autodesk AutoCAD and 3D Studio Max, for example. Those that use these kinds of applications are less likely to overclock their system and therefore a higher clocked 4MB L2 cache processor is the way to go. However, those that use typical office applications such as word, excel and even power point really do not need a 4MB L2 cache processor. For these users the new E2160 is an excellent processor that is more than capable of getting the job done!

Picking between the three processor series is not easy and at the end of the day your budget will really be the deciding factor when it comes to which processor is right for you. Those looking to overclock the hell out of their processor will most likely be better off aiming for a lower clocked 4MB L2 cache processor such as the E6320 for $180 US. If you cannot afford this the E4300 is the next best thing, for $130 US. To be honest I do not think the Intel Pentium E2160 is worth the $30 US saving over the E4300. Overclocking or not, we feel that the Core 2 Duo E4300 is a much better buy!

That said, if you do not plan to overclock the Intel Pentium E2160, the AMD Athlon64 X2 processor range could actually be a better buy. Clocked at 1.80GHz the E2160 is not really any faster than the Athlon64 X2 3600+, which happens to cost just $69 US. In fact, while we did not compare the two processors in this article, the X2 3600+ is actually faster in most of the games we tested. Therefore while the Pentium E2160 does present consumers with a nice low cost dual-core solution, it is filling a market segment that is already full. The Core 2 Duo range is all about raw power and large caches, and the E2160 really deviates away from this, making it more of a Celeron really.
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ohh.. and this is really gona make product differentiating difficult for new buyers acc to model no... lucky that these 1MB suckers are branded Pentium..

This shows either Intel marketing and pr guys have no respect for their hard working souls :S Branding c@d arc as pentium
OR
they just want to dump extra c2d with bad L2 as market has grown up from Pentium brand as a sukii processor to c2d as performer....they are now having a dilemma of branding those extra produce

but this is good for masses in India through(mostly) who recall intel inside

just would like to know how extra L2 would help AMD x2... had they jumped to next process faster Cray would not be getting trashed in NYSE and bean in diff league altogether Mr.Green Arrow
 
extra L2 does effect X2's but not as much as C2D's largely due to the large bandwidh provided thanks to the Integrated Memory Controller.

In a test (dont have the link right now) which compared Semprons with 128 and 256KB cache with 512 and 1024KB cache Athlons (not X2's) the performance was nearly similar in all apps except for 128K.
 
so all in all will it be a good buy or not? couple it with a XFX mobo how much can we oc it. and how future proof is it?
 
IMO its not a good buy especially considering

1. Really low amounts of cache

2. E4300 is just 800-900 bux costlier, performs better and OC's equally well

Ofcourse if someone is looking for a cheap system which is not to be OC'd and that person just won't have AMD then the e2160/2140 + 945/6 / 965 m/b with onboard gpu is a good buy.
 
deepak said:
IMO its not a good buy especially considering

1. Really low amounts of cache
2. E4300 is just 800-900 bux costlier, performs better and OC's equally well

Ofcourse if someone is looking for a cheap system which is not to be OC'd and that person just won't have AMD then the e2160/2140 + 945/6 / 965 m/b with onboard gpu is a good buy.
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But the E4300 wont come upto the standards of the C2D6800(Q or E dunno :S ) which the E2160 did wen it o'clocked with the P5K deluxe mobo... It jus flew away... :ohyeah:
 
Well, according to me, its a strict No No because at stock, the AMD counterparts performs better in most games

Although I have to specify something here. When we speak of comparatively high performance of these new processors, it is important to keep in mind that they still lose to the youngest Athlon 64 X2 models in most games where the size of L2 cache memory matters a lot.
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And if you want to overclock, you need a better priced motherboard, and if you are ready to spend so much on motherboard, then probaly you should buy a 4300 which has a better l2 cache. I think that this is good for only for the extreme overclockers and hobbyists, coz if and when overclocked nicely, it outperforms the extreme series of c2d
 
deepak said:
Check the first post, the xbit labs link....the first few pages of that review do just that...
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Dark Star said:
EH?:S Why dude ? :S See the 2160 is beating X6800 and u wanna see E4300 see the cart posted by super_saiyan :clap: Really I can't wait to get my hands over it :yahoo:
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oops, sorry guys i wasnt specific. what i meant was comparison of 4300 and 2160 both overclocked.

me thinks the 4300 would be a better buy.
 
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