Market Feedback dvdstoredelhi refund my amount .

[nfsnfs]

I really cannot understand why others are bothering to posting in when the first post clearly says so . Don't you guys understand English . ?Are you guys so illiterate ?

yes you are spamming.

mods please take trouble and axe those posts.

@DVDStoredelhi ,I still havent heard from you regarding my refund .When are you sending it ?

 

[asingh]

^^
You really are an arrogant nut. Do not mind the infraction for this --- but you deserve RS 0.00 refund from DvdStoredelhi. Look at your signature, shows how much of a delinquent juvenile you really are.

Sandy and Supra are giving genuine technical advice, instead of learning from them you are displaying your condescending nature and bad-mouthing not only them, but all of Techenclave.

God help you.

 

[madnav]

I really cannot understand why others are bothering to posting in when the first post clearly says so . Don't you guys understand English . ?Are you guys so illiterate ?

yes you are spamming.

mods please take trouble and axe those posts.

@DVDStoredelhi ,I still havent heard from you regarding my refund .When are you sending it ?

They are speaking in public interest which inturn shall help others with similar problems.

And in a community, public interest is more important than personal interest.

This attitude of yours must be the prime reason why mods had to ask you to resolve this over ebay. You are interested in money more than justice it seems to me now. And I will be very happy if you prove everybody wrong about this.

You have nothing to lose in the discussion, ofcourse, if you are afraid of being proven wrong.. The dealer will be clean if it turned out to be driver/antenna related issue in your case now wouldn't he?

 

[dvdstoredelhi]

After Apollyon suggesting ,this is the new thread.

http://www.techenclave.com/market-feedback/dvdstoredelhi-conned-me-i-need-full-182711.html

This is only b/w me and DVDStoreDelhi .Others stay away, otherwise Apollyon will infract useless posts.

@DVDstoredelhi , when are you refunding my amount ?

PS:For those who cannot understand English .Mod has sent me PM to start this thread. Please don't give free advices here.

nfsnfs> We have already refunded you payment Rs 1915/- as agreed between us for having used new modem for 2 months.

Read here >> Re: Payment Refunded >> Re: Fw: Re: EbayID-- "sanoh"---Regarding E122 modem.-REFUND AMOUNT PLEASE.

We have repeatedly been answering that you please Refund Rs 1915/- paid to you outside ebay and thereafter we would initiate FULL REFUND via ebay.

It seems that you are unreasonably adamant and I fail to understand that after having agreed for Refund of Rs 1915/- with me over phone and via email and once the funds got transferred into your account you began posting False / Untrue matter on threads and began using TE threads as a tool to demand / extract money that was not agreed earlier ?

@nfsnfs

"But , I am not refunding you any amount .Sine you made a mistake of sending me a defective modem in the first place

I purchased these modems in November 1st week and have a valid proof of purchase.

I reconfirm that you were sent a Brand new Modem Huawei E122 and you used same for 2 months (From Nov 15th till January 1st week) and during the tenure and never complained any problem with this device.

I have already made an offer and it's now your prerogative to accept or deny.

I would request Moderators to intervene and very carefully examine and decide on this. I agree to abide by whatever their decision may be..

 

[rajkumar_pb]

@dvdstoredelhi

That's what everyone's trying to say but still he seems not to understand this. I don't find any difficulty in refund the amount so that you can initiate the refund via ebay.

@nfsnfs

Once, please listen to others. No seller will give you better option that this and you want to resolve it by simply saying "dvdstoredelhi refund my amount" will not favor you at any point of time.

 

[nfsnfs]

I reconfirm that you were sent a Brand new Modem Huawei E122 and you used same for 2 months (From Nov 15th till January 1st week) and during the tenure and never complained any problem with this device.

That is not correct , you sent me barely working/defective modem ,which was getting very hot ,corrupted 2 SIMs ( others also have mentioned this with their modems bought from you as well ) ,had 40 % signal all the time irrespective of the location of the modem .Why did I have this issues ,if you had sent me NEW modem in the first place ?.It was a USED modem you sent.

You see I always believed you sent me a new modem in the first place .I only got know about you conning only after several complained the same .It got confirmed when you sent the same modem package ( as it is ,with all the invoice ,problems list and modem) to onlyravi .You did the same to several others .Just go and check E122 sale thread .

I should have sent you defective modem first time the SIM corrupted ,you would have not running around this 2 months time ( its actually 40 days and I have explained in other thread the time for this ) .

You just rotated defective modems to NEW buyers and only few who raised questions like me are being harassed .

Basically what you did was, sent me a USED modem to me when I paid for NEW modem .

Apart from money what hurts is you lied/conned to customer who put faith in you and paid for a NEW modem .And you constantly deny that .

Accept this and save some grace to yourself ,the damage is already made and I don't understand ,if you were wise enough you would have refunded to prevent further damage that is going on and one point of time nobody will believe you .

 

[SmartPants]

Firstly I apologise to staff for posting on this thread despite of their warning. But I would say it's a public forum and not a private one. Please let me put my views here, it's a request.

If you read those email communations which DVDstore has posted above, you'll get a clear picture on this matter. nfsnfs is showing no sign of disappointment on those emails and is even telling DVDstore that he would buy a BETTER modem at a later stage. nfsnfs has apparently used this modem for a long span of time which as claimed by DVDstore is 2 months.

I am now forced to believe that the E122 modem which is capped at 7.2Mbps didn't seem too attractive to nfsnfs and seeing how everyone else was buying an UMG 1831 at 21.6 Mbps, he also fancied the idea of acquiring the same without being stuck with his E122 which he was using.

Another possibility is that nfsnfs after using the modem and having a trial of 3G services no longer wishes to have 3G internet and is trying to get his money refunded by hook or by crook.

We must not forget that DVDstore has recently received a faulty batch of UMG 1831 in the first week of January and because of this he is facing peer pressures and a pressure to protect his reputation of last several years. I believe nfsnfs is trying to cash out on DVDstore's pain.

DVDstoredelhi, Speak to your lawyers now and be ready to make a counter-claim if at all you're threatened. I assure you we are all with you and while I cannot really speak for everyone, I will testify for you in any court of India, it's a promise.

 

[Sandy]

Frequency and impedance matching is a big factor for signal level (RSSI value)and everyone here will agree to that as its a basic electrical theory at work !

The antennas are rated the for the same 50-60 Nominal ImpedanceΩ. We are talking about the output again, With all certainty I can say that the antenna will not fly the modem.

accidental shorting of the terminals, improper braiding, spikes of USB current when using USB Hub or front USB ports of cabinets!

Thats why we have warranty! This can happen to anybody. Also most of these devices have a tolerance level and can withstand some abuse. My EVDO device with me has traveled to hell and back its still works its been plugged into anything and everything including dying 3g router. Its been ripped apart and put back together
Im not saying the OP abused the modem in anyway.
Like several others the OP got a defective modem from the start, blaming the OP by saying that he screwed it up is not right.

Now the OP being uncooperative with the seller thats a different matter, I dont want to get involved in this anymore.

 

[blufox]

Firstly I apologise to staff for posting on this thread despite of their warning. But I would say it's a public forum and not a private one. Please let me put my views here, it's a request.

If you read those email communations which DVDstore has posted above, you'll get a clear picture on this matter. nfsnfs is showing no sign of disappointment on those emails and is even telling DVDstore that he would buy a BETTER modem at a later stage. nfsnfs has apparently used this modem for a long span of time which as claimed by DVDstore is 2 months.

I am now forced to believe that the E122 modem which is capped at 7.2Mbps didn't seem too attractive to nfsnfs and seeing how everyone else was buying an UMG 1831 at 21.6 Mbps, he also fancied the idea of acquiring the same without being stuck with his E122 which he was using.

Another possibility is that nfsnfs after using the modem and having a trial of 3G services no longer wishes to have 3G internet and is trying to get his money refunded by hook or by crook.

We must not forget that DVDstore has recently received a faulty batch of UMG 1831 in the first week of January and because of this he is facing peer pressures and a pressure to protect his reputation of last several years. I believe nfsnfs is trying to cash out on DVDstore's pain.

DVDstoredelhi, Speak to your lawyers now and be ready to make a counter-claim if at all you're threatened. I assure you we are all with you and while I cannot really speak for everyone, I will testify for you in any court of India, it's a promise.

Please do not speak on behalf of all us.

If you are interested in delivering on a pinky promise you made to a dealer, then please go ahead but avoid broadcasting to others who do not care what your personal views are.

No one also cares, what you cook up after following a thread and having a tussle with OP. But it will be wise if you keep your conspiracy theories with you. Accusing OP without proof is certainly not in best interest of this thread.

thank you

PS: Sorry for OT.

 

[rajkumar_pb]

@Sandy

Edited. Sorry for behaving like the OP

Happy now...!!!!!!!

 

[apextwin146]

That is not correct , you sent me barely working/defective modem ,which was getting very hot ,corrupted 2 SIMs ( others also have mentioned this with their modems bought from you as well ) ,had 40 % signal all the time irrespective of the location of the modem .Why did I have this issues ,if you had sent me NEW modem in the first place ?.It was a USED modem you sent.

You see I always believed you sent me a new modem in the first place .I only got know about you conning only after several complained the same .It got confirmed when you sent the same modem package ( as it is ,with all the invoice ,problems list and modem) to onlyravi .You did the same to several others .Just go and check E122 sale thread .

I should have sent you defective modem first time the SIM corrupted ,you would have not running around this 2 months time ( its actually 40 days and I have explained in other thread the time for this ) .

You just rotated defective modems to NEW buyers and only few who raised questions like me are being harassed .

Basically what you did was, sent me a USED modem to me when I paid for NEW modem .

Apart from money what hurts is you lied/conned to customer who put faith in you and paid for a NEW modem .And you constantly deny that .

Accept this and save some grace to yourself ,the damage is already made and I don't understand ,if you were wise enough you would have refunded to prevent further damage that is going on and one point of time nobody will believe you .

I have read your previous thread and this thread. But in all of these threads i dont find a single shred of Evidence that supports your claim that DVDStoreDelhi sent you a used piece knowingly. It might have happened with other people where they got used pieces like Freaky & OnlyRavi but do you have any proof that the modem sent you had been used previously? If you cannot substantiate your claim then nobody can do anything out it. Even if you go to a consumer court people will ask for a Proof , so please come forward and prove that he knowingly sent 'you' a Used piece.

 

[Sandy]

We are not blaming that he screwed up the modem. He is uncooperative with seller. No point saying a same thing again and again.

Err isnt that the exact same thing you posted ? and half the other have said the same thing ? Yet you felt like repeating this like a broken record.

When you see someone acting like a retard, you cant stop yourself from trying to put some sense into his head.

 

[madnav]

Now the OP being uncooperative with the seller thats a different matter, I dont want to get involved in this anymore.

Agreed, and over n out !!

Can not convince the pre-determined.

@Topic.

As a last resort, transfer 1915 to a middleman's account which would be held until Full Refund is issued via ebay. That is, as long as both seller and buyer can trust the middleman.

 

[rajkumar_pb]

^^

Expected OP's reply :

dvdstoredelhi, when will you refund my amount.

I'm out. Enough bragging this issue.

 

[logistopath]

@nfsnfs: Is there any substantial proof for your claims that you had received a defective modem intentionally? If no, you do not have anything much except allegations built out of assumptions. To settle the matter, the concerned dealer here has offered a solution. Either you can accept it and make the refund and Sunish will refund via ebay, or the matter will die just like that without any resolution. You can cry and crib and create many more threads, but fellow members will lose interest (most already have) and will just ignore your rants plainly.

I don't see any reason why DVDstoredelhi should settle this outside ebay, when the actual deal happened there.

I would also advise other members to stay out of this issue and do not agree being middlemen. Ebay is already the middleman here, and if nfsnfs thinks that he is being denied justice here, he can take up the issue with ebay's paisapay resolution centre.

 

[Neo-N]

The issue is between nfsnfs & dvdstoredelhi...

For everyone else (including me):

 

[nfsnfs]

@nfsnfs: Is there any substantial proof for your claims that you had received a defective modem intentionally?

I would also advise other members to stay out of this issue and do not agree being middlemen.

Guys hold ur horses. Got one more faulty modem from @dvdstoredelhi.He sent me a used modem which was returned to him by @nfsnfs (used for almost 2months). This modem is also having issues like overheating and the SIM is not detected many times. Also I compared the signals of this E122with my old one... my old device shows 93% signal whereas the new E122 shows only 40%.

He is getting fresh stocks this friday so better to wait and watch till then. I wasted Rs150 in courier charges and 2weeks behind this.

Now he says he is sending me a third modem.... I am really fed up. The worst part is that I need them urgently and have already lost 2 weeks.

Similarly he sent me a used modem ( unfortunately I dont know whos modem he sent me ) . He openly accepted he sent used modem to varkey and others .I am sorry to say this you failed to see the 6th post on this thread ,where varkey was sent used modem twice .

DVDstoredelhi got my order due to TE , many of the dealers get plenty of orders or ebay due to TE .

 

[madnav]

Similarly he sent me a used modem ( unfortunately I dont know whos modem he sent me ) . He openly accepted he sent used modem to varkey and others .I am sorry to say this you failed to see the 6th post on this thread ,where varkey was sent used modem twice .

DVDstoredelhi got my order due to TE , many of the dealers get plenty of orders or ebay due to TE .

There are two different issues.

one with your refund and other with dvdstoredelhi's practices.

No one is ignoring the latter and everybody is advising you to co-operate on the former. So treat them as two issues so that you can get your moeny back asap.

 

[Supra]

@logistopath/other mods---- I do not even understand that you guys are being so good to the OP and giving him a patient hearing even after the harsh way he is beahving with all of senior TE members. May be he is more important or might be seeing his antiques that he might bad mount TE...we are scared !

See the way he starts the thread and his other posts :

This is only b/w me and DVDStoreDelhi .Others stay away, otherwise Apollyon will infract useless posts.

PS:For those who cannot understand English .Mod has sent me PM to start this thread. Please don't give free advices here.

I really cannot understand why others are bothering to posting in when the first post clearly says so . Don't you guys understand English . ?Are you guys so illiterate ?

They should just stick with selling DVDs ,so even if ppl are conned,they are at less loss and they will not complain back .You get the drift?

You guys are acting as if you are giving it from your pockets .I am the one under loss .

You know what ,you guys start a pool money called "save the DVDStoredelhi guy" and transfer me the money .

Even his signature is so derogatory ! This is 1st I am seeing such of a kind on TE in last 5 years !

What are we still waiting for !! Take a general opinion of the mods/staff/senior members and close it off and delete all this $hit threads/flaming etc ! People quarelling.....old member getting banned....I hope the OP is not some CM/PM's sons who is gng to buy out TE !

May be its becoming like IT companies....they want more freshers/noobs and dont care even if the oldies/experienced guys resign

 

[varkey]

I hope its not spam from my side

@varkey --- I hope you tried with a normal 2G sim from any other operator other than BSNL. Also just to confirm again the replacement modem you got was a sealed piece one and did it not have IMEI right from the start with the stock firmware it came with ?

As I said in the previous post, I did not try it with a 2G sim (Its supposed to work with 3G sims as well right? ) As I have mentioned earlier too, I have a UMG181 modem as well, and the same BSNL sim works perfectly and without any issues in that at the exact same location. So I doubt it being a network related issue, if it was, my UMG181 also would have showed similar or atleast some issue.

Yes the replacement also was sealed although it was sent from Bangalore by a buyer who had bought one extra, which was informed to me by dvdstoredelhi earlier. The sticker on the back of the modem had the IMEI number printed but on checking it with Mobile Partner, MDMA the IMEI field was blank. Also I just started the firmware updater and there too the IMEI number was missing and yes it had the stock firmware and I did not upgrade it as the IMEI was missing.

@Varkey > I am ready to initiate your Refund in FULL via Ebay after you Refund Rs 2720/- paid to you.

However regarding Shipping amount of Rs 60 + Rs 60 paid by you is borne by buyer since you bought via Ebay and we specified same in our listing !

This is how it works out for this product. We provide Replacement Warranty for 6 months and during this tenure if buyer faces and problem he returns same to us

for replacement and we bear return shipping charges. We also bear Shipping expense when we received a faulty piece and we forward same to Vendor and then he pays for returning replacement to us.

So 1 way is borne by buyer and the other by Seller and I feel it is fair and win win situation for both.

I understand how your normal warranty works and I agree to it, but in this case, I received a defective product (DOA) initially, returned it and the replacement also turned out to be defective without even IMEI number. If I had received a working product I wouldn't have bothered about the return shipping charges. But the end of the day I neither have the product and I am at a loss for absolutely no fault of mine. I feel it is the duty of the seller to make sure the item is not DOA.

I have made serveral purchases online infact 90% of my purchases are done online and almost all cases of DOA or Wrong Item I have been refunded the entire amount I paid plus the return shipping costs, some sellers even arranged free pickup from my house. So my assumption is that, it is the usual practice for cases like this.

Anyway I am ready to transfer back the amount, I just need the account details, will you please PM me that?

@Others - Do you think I should bear the return shipping costs in this case?