Yeah they feel terribly out of place. Given the rise of such resellers in the recent months, it should be appropriate to give them their own sub section once they are verified as a reseller.
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Umm most are just members offering them out of goodwill. I don't think they intend to make a lot of profit and provide these services as they love to do it in their free time. So I would not call them as resellers.
But yes if there are professionals offering these as a primary business then they should get a reseller account.
Ah yes, I am aware. Just grouped them with the folks who re-sell activation keys and stuff for the sake of the topic.
kage
Forerunner
Coming here after the recent 3070 sale debacle, there are a couple of suggestions on that thread that could be looked into:
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- 2FA for all accounts, old or new.
- 2FA should be set as a mandatory flow in the login process so that all new signups have to use it.
- Old accounts without 2FA can have their passwords reset, so that when they go about changing them, 2FA setup prompts up.
- This would be a minor inconvenience for older members but a major security safeguard imo.
- 1 video in addition to the photos, following the same rules that apply for photos (username / bill etc).
- Not sure how much it would affect your hosting costs. Perhaps uploading to third party services and linking them could be more feasible?
- Accounts with no activity for a certain time (like say 6 months or 1 year?) automatically get suspended. Only way to log back in is via magic links sent to their email (or whatever other process deemed feasible).
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- Exclusive area for reputable TE members, who have good history + are ready to verify their info (Aadhar / Bank / etc, which seems like is planned for phase 3).
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tr27
Forerunner
copy pasting what I said on the other thread - To any seller saying f2f deal preferred, how about making it a requirement to exchange the same info with the buyer, like a video with the seller in it.. if they don't want their face.. maybe some id .. that's what you see in f2f no? You get to see the person.. now make that mandatory for expensive items.
Or make this optional but give this a mandatory info on the page itself like "seller is comfortable doing video KYC - yes/no"
If it's no, it's up to the buyer to decide if he wants to avoid the deal on something expensive.
I have another idea.. how about making a exclusive area for reputable techenclave members, who have good history+ they are ready to verify their info (mods decide what type of verification like face/masked aadhar or something) , now these members will get to deal with the same exclusive members who have done the same
This will also keep the members motivated to reach this ladder
Or make this optional but give this a mandatory info on the page itself like "seller is comfortable doing video KYC - yes/no"
If it's no, it's up to the buyer to decide if he wants to avoid the deal on something expensive.
I have another idea.. how about making a exclusive area for reputable techenclave members, who have good history+ they are ready to verify their info (mods decide what type of verification like face/masked aadhar or something) , now these members will get to deal with the same exclusive members who have done the same
This will also keep the members motivated to reach this ladder
Rezep
Herald
? I don't understand the need for this. If the seller mentions face to face then that just means to locally meet up. Video KYC for f2f solves a problem that doesn't exist.
The only time I recall a face to face deal going wrong or along those lines was some member (I cannot recall whether this was on techenclave or erodov) who got robbed after he brought a member home to demo test his headphones or something lol. That was like 10-15 years ago if I read that thread right.
I think this used to exist and it got removed (not sure when) it was pointless for most people. You got less eyes on your classifieds and as someone selling, you don't care to whom you sell it to, you just want it sold.
I don't know if the whole verification thing with the move to discourse is going to actually happen but it's a step in the right direction. The sad thing still is though that most if not all ID forms can be forged.
Honestly there's not much of a middleground that I can think of that most people would be happy with.
For the most part though, buyers could simply not freak out and pay before even seeing screenshots of the gpu bloody functioning.
tr27
Forerunner
I think you misunderstood the first part since I was not clear enough.
If the seller is ready to make f2f deal, he should also be comfortable doing a video call to the buyer in case if the deal involves shipping.
It's not expected here to ask video call or varification, like it's taboo to ask for this. If people are comfortable doing f2f , they should also be comfortable doing video call or even some sort of varification.
If it's promoted as another option, from the techenclave itself, i think people will start with this slowly.. even if this save 1 out of 10 , it could potentially means someone saving his hard earned 20k +/- , and one less scammer being comfortable
That's why I mentioned to keep it optional but at least show this in the front page of the sale with another line like where we have "under warranty: yes/no"
Yeah I'm aware that section like the "exclusive sale" existed, and it should. If it means less deals on this forum, then so be it. This should be promoted as tech forum/community, not a defacto trade platform.
Some good to know habits:
- Irrespective of the age of the account, check the time gap between sales. Especially if the account has been inactive for a long time, and suddenly rose from the dead
- If a deal seems too good to be true, it probably is, unless the member is very active, reputable, and wants to sell it to the forum at a great price
- Trust your gut. Never pay upfront if you feel something is off. Reach a middle-ground with the seller - who shouldn't have a problem if they are genuine, and you're a reputed member/buyer
- If a seller starts acting like an asshole towards genuine advice/observations in their sales thread, stay away
We had enforced password reset on all accounts a couple of years ago but if the users' email account itself gets compromised then there is very little that can be done. Have again enforced password reset for accounts which have not logged in after 1st November 2024. Cannot enforce 2FA on all accounts as that is a personal choice.
When we move to discourse then all account will have to reset their passwords, as nobody can read the passwords. Not humans, not the systems.
From XenForo based forums, your password will not get compromised as they are hashed and stored. If someone does manage to get the hashes, then too they cannot login into your account as the system will not accept hashes directly.
The most likely way an account gets compromised is if you use the same password on multiple sites and one of those sites get compromised. Or your email itself gets compromised.
I hope everyone uses 2FA on their email at least.
When we move to discourse then all account will have to reset their passwords, as nobody can read the passwords. Not humans, not the systems.
From XenForo based forums, your password will not get compromised as they are hashed and stored. If someone does manage to get the hashes, then too they cannot login into your account as the system will not accept hashes directly.
The most likely way an account gets compromised is if you use the same password on multiple sites and one of those sites get compromised. Or your email itself gets compromised.
I hope everyone uses 2FA on their email at least.
kage
Forerunner
Perfect!
Is there a way this can be automated?
That way we wouldn't have to rely on manual intervention ever so often.
Something like as soon as account go inactive for 6 months or 1 year, their passwords are reset automatically.
This has been the most requested feature from that 3070 thread in light of the recent scam.
Maybe something that can be looked into after we migrate to the new platform!
This however is something that I disagree with.
I think it should be mandatory. Not just here, but everywhere.
Many people don't follow security best practices.
They'll use the same password everywhere if they can get away with it.
And since we cannot enforce changing that habit, maybe we can enforce something that is under our jurisdiction and can help mitigate issues stemming from it.
2FA would also prevent unauthorized entries to TE if users' emails are broken into, which is an additional benefit imo!
I also feel like 2FA setup has certain inertia that once overcome, results in a good habit that everyone maintains.
Case in point, my parents.
Old. Technologically averse.
When I set up 2FA on their most important accounts, they complained a lot about the additional step.
But soon, they got used to it.
And once they did, it wasn't as much of a hassle as it used to be for them.
Afterwards, they started using 2FA on all their new signups as well just because that initial inertia of using a new thing was overcome.
Hoping everyone uses 2FA on their emails is just that, a hope.
If we can do something concrete to change their habits, we should.
Especially with something we can control, like sign ins to this forum.
And besides, we are a technologically focused forum. If we aren't at the forefront of security best practices, then who else.
And in 2025, 2FAs are a security best practice, not merely a suggestion.
Maybe this would make individuals on this forum who still haven't set up 2FA get over from their inertia of it and open them up for 2FAs on their other accounts as well, as it did for my parents.
Besides, while I realize that the marketplace is not the main motivation of this forum, it is still a part of it.
And every scam there sullies the name of TE by being associated with it bit by bit, which I'm sure none of us want.
With mandatory 2FA, we can cut down on a certain type of scam that was recently perpetrated.
I totally get not trying to make it work with Xenforo since we're moving away from it, but I strongly feel that we should mandate 2FA for all accounts once we migrate to the new platform for the reasons I've mentioned above.
It would be the most opportune time for it.
Don't get me wrong though, I don't want to impose anything on the running of this forum.
I think you lads are doing a pretty darn good job already.
I'm just offering some suggestions as a user, and as someone who wants TE to prosper.
Vipul Bhatia
Beginner
With regard to the new requirement of having so many posts on technical matters before being allowed to comment/buy or post in the marketplace.
I've been here for a fairly long time. I'm by no means a technical person or very interested in deep tech. But I do like to buy things once in a while.
Now I find myself unable to do that because of these restrictions.
So suggest the length of membership with no negative reviews as a category.
I've been here for a fairly long time. I'm by no means a technical person or very interested in deep tech. But I do like to buy things once in a while.
Now I find myself unable to do that because of these restrictions.
So suggest the length of membership with no negative reviews as a category.
Marketplace should only be for buy/sale/trade. No restrictions on one's personal technical knowledge should be imposed as they are irrelevant. If a potential buyer has any query then he can do so on the thread itself and seller should respond. If there's anything "off" anywhere then any member can point it out.
There are some members/sellers who give clear information and details regarding the items and they are appreciated.
There are some members/sellers who give clear information and details regarding the items and they are appreciated.