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This is not created with an intention of flaming anybody nor i am pointing it out to anyone in particular .

When dealing with people on forums who generally want to share an opinion , I agree most people may be overtly supportive or critical , but going as far as using borderline immflamatory language not justified .

Making people feel unwanted or unwelcome is never desired . Yet people do it sometimes unknowingly , and knowingly . Take arunhalo's case . Poor guy was lambasted for his language . Its a good thing he didnt take it that personally or else the community as a whole is to blame otherwise if at all people start leaving .

People say they dont get to learn anymore here and the older people have left . Of course .
what people dont understand that its their turn to educate people that come in and make them feel welcomed .

This is more so directed towards the senior polulation of TE rather than than the staff in general .

I certainly wouldnt want to stay around in a community that tells me to STFU and go away .
 
SharekhaN said:
I certainly wouldnt want to stay around in a community that tells me to STFU and go away .
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I concurr

Hmmm the forum keepers says the msg is too short, but I guess it was enough to convery my meaning, hope this extra bit satisfies it.
 
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I concurr

Hmmm the forum keepers says the msg is too short, but I guess it was enough to convery my meaning, hope this extra bit satisfies it.
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:S , i didnt get the conveyed message....maybe my vocabulary is falling short here(and no pun intended), so please explain concurr????

edit : Concur = To agree with or give your approval.

so it was a spelling mistake, not good.
 
Good point you raised there sharekhan, would now have a nice read with all the ideas, suggestion coming through... :)

Not to let the topic move ahead, this is a free world, and a free forum, till the time some1 is not abusive and does not flame you without a reason, i think everything goes. And even if some1 asks you to leave, in a democratic country, its your will in the end. If you like the place you wont leave it coz a senior guy asked u to.
 
WoW! Now that's what I call a thread.Sharekhan mate you really got my head scratching.Why didn't I ever sit down & think about it? or may be thats because I didn't have time for it.:S

But anyways you are certainly right on your comments.I like this community in general.The reason I don't have a gazillion post count here is because this is how I like to keep it.I feel more interested in scoping out topics that are already created & end up more on asking my queries.

Though for some reason I feel there are very few replied given to my posted queries.Not sure if the posts are being ignored or perhaps no one's interested in answering them or may be I need to search for similar topics.Not really sure which one it is.Though I don't really let it bother me that much.So as usual just make a nice trip out here & wade through the already created posts.

I certainly wouldnt want to stay around in a community that tells me to STFU and go away .
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Absolutely.:)
 
SharekhaN said:
People say they dont get to learn anymore here and the older people have left . Of course .
what people don't understand that its their turn to educate people that come in and make them feel welcomed .

This is more so directed towards the senior polulation of TE rather than than the staff in general .

I certainly wouldnt want to stay around in a community that tells me to STFU and go away .
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are the older people supposed to be babysitters / teachers who will guide or educate the new guys around. why is that. who was there to guide us when we joined.why do one need guidance when this forum has everything mentioned in the rules , faq's of how to conduct yourself on TE , whats allowed and whats not.
if people still don't get it and continue their antics , its not the forums , admin , mods, senior members or junior members fault. fault lies simply with those the members who lack common sense about things no matter how old or new they are or how many posts they have.

if you don't have it , you will never get it and nobody can help it. thats the way it is. the mods have to step in then and put up restrictions to control such behaviour which nobody likes but it has to be done.

and i dont remember if things have gone that bad where people have started abusing others or they have been told to leave this place. so i dont know in what context you made that last statement.
 
"are the older people supposed to be babysitters / teachers who will guide or educate the new guys around"

Certainly not . That was never the idea . when i mean educate , it isnt in the literal sense of teaching everyone ground up . when you are part of a community you contribute in some way or the other . you help someone who has an issue with a no post issue . he learns why tha happens and in turn helps helps someone else who has the same problem with the experience he has gained .

"if people still don't get it and continue their antics , its not the forums , admin , mods, senior members or junior members fault. fault lies simply with those the members who lack common sense about things no matter how old or new they are or how many posts they have."

Its antics if they do it deliberately . If a person speaks broken english , does that mean he is not supposed to post his problems or opinions because it insults the ways english is supoosed to be written . They dont it by choice . This is something people have to understand and accomodate such people . Then the fault lies with people who knowingly poke fun and insults to these people .

"and i dont remember if things have gone that bad where people have started
abusing others or they have been told to leave this place. so i dont know in what context you made that last statement."
It has happened . let me not go in to details .
 
Sharekhan, I see where your coming from and whom this is directed to. Since this is predominantly related to one of my posts, let me take the opportunity and apologise since it wasn't directed to you (if you did take it personally).

I completely agree with puns and he's very correctly pointed out that the case here is with certain members.

And Vaibhav, I just don't get your point about the English factor. We're NOT flaming these people because of their poor English, its because a lot of the stuff posted by these group of individuals simply doesn't make sense!

And as for trying to defend arunhalo, I'm sorry, I understand he has a problem and disability, but I can't stand the fact that he posts in almost every thread, utter non-sense, nobody even reads through his posts anymore and here you are trying to defend him!

SharekhaN said:
"and i dont remember if things have gone that bad where people have started

abusing others or they have been told to leave this place. so i dont know in what context you made that last statement."

It has happened . let me not go in to details .
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Well if you think that was murky, then all I can say is that you haven't seen the real ugly stuff on this forum.

SharekhaN said:
I certainly wouldnt want to stay around in a community that tells me to STFU and go away .
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Nobody would do that if you acted along with how the community does. Try doing this on XS and you'll have your a$$ flamed with combustible methane and get IP banned in a day!

puns said:
if you don't have it , you will never get it and nobody can help it. thats the way it is. the mods have to step in then and put up restrictions to control such behaviour which nobody likes but it has to be done.
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Yep, and I think some members are at that stage, and since we're already on a acute staff shortage we aren't able to restrict these people. Its a pity we don't have replacements for moderators who have left.
 
SharekhaN said:
Certainly not . That was never the idea . when i mean educate , it isnt in the literal sense of teaching everyone ground up . when you are part of a community you contribute in some way or the other . you help someone who has an issue with a no post issue . he learns why tha happens and in turn helps helps someone else who has the same problem with the experience he has gained .

Its antics if they do it deliberately . If a person speaks broken english , does that mean he is not supposed to post his problems or opinions because it insults the ways english is supoosed to be written . They dont it by choice . This is something people have to understand and accomodate such people . Then the fault lies with people who knowingly poke fun and insults to these people .

It has happened . let me not go in to details .
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i certainly think TE members are helpful , most of the queries get answered , people get welcomed , we have meets etc.

the issue with arunhalo is a one off case. if people are mocking or making fun of him , then they are morons. but that also doesn't mean he can get away with spamming or making unnecessary posts and be pointed out if he is doing so. rules are same for everyone.

with antics i meant spamming , crapping in market section and those issues and not singling out anybody.

well if abusing , inflammatory remarks have been made on the forum , then its bad and im sure it must have been dealt with . if not , then it can be looked into by the admin , mods if they are given the info or the people involved feel so.

if it has happened off forum, then its no one's business other than people involved.
 
^Another highly rated international forum

and i agree with anish to the point that the post made by stick was senseless. Its not over his poor use of grammatical language that people were pissed off, but over his vague theory which i didnt bother reading completely because i could make nothing out of it.
Stick has been around on the forum for some time now and his writing skills have been same over this period and i see no reason why the flaming would happen just now , it could have even happened earlier.
Also to make a point , i usually understand what this guy has to say in his posts (they do have errors but you can make sense out of them in the end, unlike arunhalo's), except for his latest one where he published some crap theory

..and regarding arun halo , i feel this guy should be left on his own. let him stay and go away with a warning
 
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arun here has a very obvious problem... it would do a lot of good to you people to leave him out of your discussions. primarily because i still think this place is inhabited by humans who use comps a bit nd not comp crazy chauvinists who dont respect other humans. from what i make of the kid, i really dont see him having a life outside of his comp.. i still remember the way some members here responded to his queries when plans were being made for a certain TE Chennai Chapter (now that sounds cooool :P :P) trip to Mahabalipuram. People made an effort to utterly humiliate him in the open.. you guys prolly think that he doesnt understand whatever u ppl keep posting about him.. but am pretty sure that he knows whats going on.. nd its his decency that he doesnt try to hit back at you with watever...

If you find his posts to be irritating/irrelevant jus ignore them.. there are ppl here who have gotten used to the way he types and can make perfect sense of statements made by him. So try not to drag this kid into your conversation.. leave the guy alone.. he's already gone through a lot. nd surely doesnt need a bunch of guys whom he's never met passing judgments about him..

and as far as the other mindless topics are concerned.. i agree with Anish.. the mods really need to do something about this.. if there is concern that they are running short on staff, let me remind you that while ppl might have left the forums.. a lot more have replaced them.. there are enough ppl here who've been around for sometime and are pretty senior too.. i dont think a fresh round of mod appointments is gonna be out of place...

but seriously... stop being kids and comparing TE to places like XS.. we might be good where we are.. but if u go abt making comparisons like these... :P :P

nd also keep in mind one thing.. i really dont think that we need to APE these bigger forums.. we here have our own culture and way of dealing with such things.. and speaking as a member of this forum since its inception.. i dont think anyone ever told me that it involved openly flaming someone like this and telling them that they are not wanted.

@MODS - No offence to Anish here.. but the fact remains that whatever he did was completely uncalled for.. being a senior member, it becomes more of a responsibilty for him to ensure that he behaves and his posts in the other thread were anything but courteous.. If such behavior goes unnoticed/unpunished... its gonna set a Very Very Bad precedent...

P.S - @Anish.. i dont have any personal grudge/crap against you.. my views are based upon only that one thread in question and nothing else.. so take them at facevalue
 
@theindian...

from what ive noticed of him and inferred from his posts.. he has some sort of hearing disability.. nd coz of this.. his language skills (atleast those related to sentence construction) are very poor... there was some talk abt him being Dyslexic.. but i dont think thats the case...
 
sTALKEr said:
@MODS - No offence to Anish here.. but the fact remains that whatever he did was completely uncalled for.. being a senior member, it becomes more of a responsibilty for him to ensure that he behaves and his posts in the other thread were anything but courteous.. If such behavior goes unnoticed/unpunished... its gonna set a Very Very Bad precedent...

P.S - @Anish.. i dont have any personal grudge/crap against you.. my views are based upon only that one thread in question and nothing else.. so take them at facevalue
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I absolutely agree and hence am making a public apology for this post. If anybody still feels something needs to be done after I've apologised, they can convey their feelings to the mods.

But I hope I'm setting a precedent in this very post for the behaviour on TE to be a lot more social and 'normal'.

P.S. - Just read through the post and I'd appreciate if some of you would read through this post and see the comment made by this thread's author to a certain age group for no apparent reason at all.

However, my apology still holds.
 
@Anish...

knowing technical stuff and being worldly wise are 2 completely different things.. i think thats what Sharekhan was talkin abt wen he mentioned the 17-18... at the end of the day, its almost always gonna be the older guy thats been through more shit..
 
@broar.. spot on man... just the fact that this guy has gone beyond his disability and even learned comps to this extent(however this may be defined) is an achievement..
 
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