eternoMind
Herald
Pray "how is it nice to know" ? To me it's more like a 'miserable feeling' and this is repeated over and over again.
He's masterful when it comes to sarcasm; in addition to other things of course!
Pray "how is it nice to know" ? To me it's more like a 'miserable feeling' and this is repeated over and over again.
Pray "how is it nice to know" ? To me it's more like a 'miserable feeling' and this is repeated over and over again.
FWIW a bunch of Calcutta folk spent about half hour with a 4670k and a Gigabyte Sniper H87 and a CM V1000+Seidon 240 watercooler, thanks to a Gigabyte user meet. I'm sure @sumonpathak will post a more detailed impression and report later, but we did get it CPU-z validated @4.8GHz on just about 1.3 vCore - due to lack of time could get stable benchmarks only to about 4.6G/1.3V. We didn't have much time to play with the setup - but we started with Harshal's best result of 4.5g/1.28V and took it from there.We seem to have had a decent sample, not sure what retail CPUs will do but I would be comfortable with a 4.3/4.4Ghz for daily use with good water and about 4.2 on air. I don't consider it a bad clocker, just may be average or slightly average. Most users would be quite comfortable at 4GHz too, and the system felt very snappy and responsive, almost as good as an AMD setup
Haswell clocking is affected largely due to core heating and very high transistor density, IMHO. Still, these one-hour results aren't too shabby, given that it's coming from the darkest corner of the country!
Good weekend, all!
They actually secured their position in the growing portable market. Hybrid Windows 8 devices + Haswell are a match made in heaven. Finally, a powerful portable hardware than can also last long. Intel didn't lose the plot, they won it absolutely.meh...intel sucks.....they just lost the plot....
Have they increased by more than 10%?
did they now?? then they should stop advertising them selves as for the enthusiasts and start competing in in handheld portable market only.....They actually secured their position in the growing portable market. Hybrid Windows 8 devices + Haswell are a match made in heaven. Finally, a powerful portable hardware than can also last long. Intel didn't lose the plot, they won it absolutely.
Over the past couple of months, motherboard vendors from across the industry offered BIOS updates for their motherboards based on Intel B85 Express and H87 Express chipsets, which enable CPU overclocking for Intel's unlocked Core processors denoted by "K" brand extension (Core i7-4770K, i5-4670K). This reportedly hasn't gone down well with Intel. Intel's Bxx and Hxx chipsets are significantly cheaper than its Zxx series chipset. Sensing a clear threat to its revenue, from the prospect of motherboard vendors coming up with high-end or overclocking-ready (strong CPU VRM) motherboards based on cheaper chipsets in the near future, Intel cracked down on them.
Intel is giving final touches to a CPU microcode update that restricts Core "K" Haswell processors from overclocking on chipsets other than Z87 Express. A microcode update can be deployed both through BIOS updates, and surreptitiously through Windows Update. Intel's used the tried and tested "stability" bogey to justify the update. While it's true that motherboards based on B85 and H87 tend to feature weaker CPU VRM, there's nothing to say that ASUS wouldn't have gone on to design its next ROG Maximus on H87 Express, and save on manufacturing costs. While it's purely hypothetical, something like that wouldn't be in Intel's commercial interests. What next? Intel will push this new microcode update on to motherboard vendors, instructing them to issue BIOS updates with it; and future batches of Intel "K" CPUs may not support overclocking. If that isn't enough to contain the problem, Intel may give Microsoft a ring, and ask it to push the update through Windows Update. It tried that once in the past.
According to MSI, they did not make noise about this feature because the feature was enabled on the boards since the release of the 30+ LGA1150 mainboard models! Knowing that the feature would be removed when the release of the next CPU microcode, they did not highlight the capability. Apparently Intel has already issued a new microcode which addresses this issue and, obviously, MSI recommends everyone to always have the latest BIOS flashed to ensure best performance, compatibility and stability.
There's an interesting twist to the story as MSI states, and I quote, "It is with great pain that we see other motherboard manufacturers announce this a feature for short-term marketing gain, neglecting to mention that users would use this function in the near future. We want to urge the PC community to only chose Z87 based motherboards if they want to enjoy the benefits of overclocking". I guess everyone's guilty of sometimes choosing the short-term marketing path - no need to point fingers.