CPU/Mobo How to distiguish between brisbane and windsor cores

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Havok

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as the topic suggests how do i distinguish between brisbane and windsor cores for athlon X2 without opening the seal. :)
 
The core names for 2x1MB L2 cache are Windsor for X2's (beware because there are 2x512k versions, and one 2x256k the 3600+ Windsor), and Santa Ana for Opteron's. You'll notice with the Brisbane's that while they have 2x512MB L2 cache, they have 100MHz faster stock clock speed than an equivalently rated Windsor core (4800+ Windsor = 2.4GHz, 4800+ Brisbane = 2.5GHz).
 
how to distinguish between windsor and brisbane 3600/3800, i mean , if the dealer (lets assume he's an ignoramoose :P) claims he has a 3600, how do i find out which core it is by just looking at it ?
 
3800 doesnt come in brisbane

3600+ is easy, the old one is 2.0Gz and 512KB L2 cache (mentioned on the top side of the box)

and brisbane is 1.9Ghz and 1MB L2 cache
 
i think there is a small sticker on the box which has a number tag
eg. a am2 athlon 64 3000+ had this "ADA3000CN"
just go to amd web site and serch for this tag u will get all data dor the concerned proccy ( in this case athlon 64)
for your case tag will be different
try it
 
Xfactor keeps reminding me that all brisbanes have odd freqs (1.9g, 2.1g, etc), whereas windsors have even freqs (2.0, 2.2, etc)
 
it'll be 640KB+640KB cache mentioned on the top corner for brisbanes

Also the OPN code mentioned near the serial no will have DD in it for the brisbanes and CU for the old 90nm ones

and yeah also what zhops said atleast upto X2 5000+ :P
 
deepak said:
640+640 isnt a sure shot way cause iirc some windsors (higher end) came with 640+640 too

Then you can cross check with the clock speeds written below the cache size or look for 'DD' in the OPN No or Product code :)

deepak said:
3800 doesnt come in brisbane

3600+ is easy, the old one is 2.0Gz and 512KB L2 cache (mentioned on the top side of the box)

and brisbane is 1.9Ghz and 1MB L2 cache

1MB is not mentioned anywhere on the box :P
 
if not 1 MB then 640+640 or 384+384?

So the three ways we can check are :

1. Speeds : should be Odd speeds atleast upto X2 5000+

2. Cache : Not sure shot for higher end, but ok for 3600+ and 1 or 2 after that

3. Product Code
 
and u still got any confusion, look this up...

AMD Processors for Desktops: AMD Athlonâ„¢ 64 Processor and AMD Sempronâ„¢ Processor

I'll let u do the work.

Q : How does this help identify the core of a box packed proccy

A : It doesnt
 
deepak said:
if not 1 MB then 640+640 or 384+384?

320KB+320KB for 512kb edition

deepak said:
should be Odd speeds atleast upto X2 5000+

Yeah, here are a few ...

3600+ (1.9Ghz, 2x512KB L2 Cache, 65W)
4000+ (2.1Ghz, 2x512KB L2 Cache, 65W)
4400+ (2.3GHz, 2x512KB L2 Cache, 65W)
4800+ (2.5GHz, 2x512KB L2 Cache, 65W)
5000+ (2.6GHz, 2x512KB L2 Cache, 65W)
 
5000+ can't be ID'd by the Speed (its got a even frequency no.)

and yeah for most of the windsors if not all, its 320+320LB Cache

and for most of the Brisbanes its 640+640KB Cache

but for low end its not a problem atleast upto 4800+ after that it gets tricky, but hardly anyone buys AMD after that :bleh: rather get a C2D then :D
 
deepak said:
Q : How does this help identify the core of a box packed proccy
A : It doesnt

It does, and let me tell u how...

u know what brisbane is, 65nm, 65W, cache, speed, model etc.... put in the details and u will get the part number...

Now do this for windsor, after u get the OPN

Look at the BOX, there's OPN written on the Box/CPU, match the OPN and u're DONE. as simple as that....
 
Ahhh....u meant that way, seriously dude, my bad

OPN was dicussed here too, we could just google that or maybe someone not as lazy as me post the OPN for both Windsor and Brisbane :)
 
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