saumilsingh
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Therein lies the paradox. When a dictatorship collapses, everything is blamed upon the perpetrator, and the people are excused. Can you, as a responsible citizen of a democratic nation, deny your hand in all the bad things your government carries out?shrey said:
l33t_5n1p3r_max said:
Err no... the fact is, 10 or 20 good people cant do a damn thing when surrounded by 700+ idiots.
even if I get myself elected, what the bloody hell could I do ?? I of course could shout from the rooftops abt the inside dealings of parliament and how they cheat people and how these "netas" are so selfish and all....
but one person cant really change the system. Only educated smart people would follow me. And these are a minority in our country. More than Muslims or Christians or Sikhs.
Get in the queueRoxtin said:Choose me as President will see what i can do
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Yamaraj said:
Why one ill give you five. Nordic countries, all of them.
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And what do they have in common, thatz right democracy. Now we are wating for your list.
Yes democracy is not perfect but its the best solution compared with the rest like dictators, fascism etc.
Nikhil first get yourself elected then we will talk. Till then please stop making lame excuses.
Your thinking is flawed.
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Seriously guys search google before you make these points, you will get many links which will tell you why you are wrong.
Look, all cases you point to are different. They have a population abt as much as what one state of India has.
Also, these countries are way ahead of us when it comes to technology, education, etc....
We really dont need the freedom of press when people arent getting their basic meals and children arent getting educated....
Also, these countries are way ahead of us when it comes to technology, education, etc....
We really dont need the freedom of press when people arent getting their basic meals and children arent getting educated....
the matter of population doesn't come into picture. The will of the people is what counts. Also remember that the develoved countries haven't been so from the first. Take for example the US. It was poorer some european countries when it took up democracy.
Also remember that they had 400 years to become a developed country whereas India only had 60. Even then we made a Huge amount of progress concidering the state in which we were at the time of out independance.
Another thing is, press freedom is the corner stone of democracy as the press is nothing but the voice of the people. It is their first line of defence against those who try to oppress.
That is the reason why many of out leaders during the freedon fight were prominent press personalities. For a good write up on the interaction of the press and the freedom struggle, read THIS editorial from The Hindu
Also remember that they had 400 years to become a developed country whereas India only had 60. Even then we made a Huge amount of progress concidering the state in which we were at the time of out independance.
Another thing is, press freedom is the corner stone of democracy as the press is nothing but the voice of the people. It is their first line of defence against those who try to oppress.
That is the reason why many of out leaders during the freedon fight were prominent press personalities. For a good write up on the interaction of the press and the freedom struggle, read THIS editorial from The Hindu
It's like comparing apples to oranges. You're reciting the names of a few islands that don't even add up to the size of an average state here. And you probably didn't notice Singapore in the list, which isn't a proper democracy.Hacker said:Why one ill give you five. Nordic countries, all of them.
Corruption Perceptions Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And what do they have in common, thatz right democracy. Now we are wating for your list.
Yes democracy is not perfect but its the best solution compared with the rest like dictators, fascism etc.
A good effort, nonetheless. But if you pay enough attention, you'll see that countries like Indonesia, Taiwan, Singapore, Russia, China, South Korea, Vietnam, Cuba and even South Afrika aren't doing too bad. And corruption in highly developed democratic countries like Japan and USA isn't that low.
Democracy isn't the solution to all of our problems. And it is particularly not good for countries where illiterate masses are more interested in watching stupid movies and lame cricket matches than actively participating in the electoral process.
There!
i purposefully have not included as I know mass media is NOT the voice of the country.
Why do you think so? A common man is a lot smarter than you think (for a good example, concider the previous election where Chandra Babu Naidu was defeated by YSR ultimately resulting in the collapse of the BJP. It is widely concidered that the urban and upper middle class centric polacies of CB Naidu were the reason the junta of the rest of the state felt left out.) if only the people believed what they saw on TV, what has the "India Shining" campaign achieved?
Why do you think so? A common man is a lot smarter than you think (for a good example, concider the previous election where Chandra Babu Naidu was defeated by YSR ultimately resulting in the collapse of the BJP. It is widely concidered that the urban and upper middle class centric polacies of CB Naidu were the reason the junta of the rest of the state felt left out.) if only the people believed what they saw on TV, what has the "India Shining" campaign achieved?
Kumar said:
Indian junta voting and deciding in elections is like monkeys playing with howitzers. They're curious and adventurous, but hardly aware of the consequences. As to why CBN and BJP were thrown out, there can be no better explanation than a single word: change.
Why did people of Bellari (Karnataka) vote for Sonia and Sushma, when they knew it well that none of them was going to pay a single visit after the event was over? That's because aam junta is much more stupid than I think it is.
@ yamaraj
U grossly underrate the population and overrate yourself and your perceptions, if i got the word right. No offense
when the people have absolutely no role in a dictatorship , how the hell can you not blame the dictator :S ???
And a corrupt communist govt is much much worser compared to a corrupt democracy. Like someone said, the grass is always greener on the other side.....
U grossly underrate the population and overrate yourself and your perceptions, if i got the word right. No offense
when the people have absolutely no role in a dictatorship , how the hell can you not blame the dictator :S ???
And a corrupt communist govt is much much worser compared to a corrupt democracy. Like someone said, the grass is always greener on the other side.....
Kumar said:Atleast they are free monkeys and not caged
I would rather have them in laboratories than in cages.
hyeah: On a serious note, we love democracy not because of its values and ideals, but for the simple fact that we are infatuated with whatever America is. They very first line of our indigenous constitution is a mere copy of theirs, not unlike the rest of it. We take pride in our democratic system - a mere mechanical carcass without the spirit and endeavor within.
A Frankenstein of their dream, a zombie of our imported ideals - is this really something we can relate ourselves with? Just as a child must learn to crawl before he can start running, we ought to learn to value life and freedom in its true essence, before boasting of the mask of sanity we're roaming around with.
shrey said:
No offense taken.
shrey said:
Precisely! And that's convenient even for the people.
That's what happened with Hitler. Even though he couldn't have done whatever he did without the help and support of the common German, the people were largely excused while almost every Nazi was executed for the crimes perpetrated against humanity. It was the same with Saddam.
Now, ask an average American if he is willing to be trialled in a court of law for the crimes against humanty that his politicians and army have committed. Would you? In a democracy, is it easier for the rulers to escape liability of theirs actions.
shrey said:
That goes for both sides.
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