well, I had problems with MSI in the past. but if you generally look at it, for overclocking purposes, ASUS boards are the best. MSI is nice, but ASUSTeK is simply better. It may sound overly biased but in my personal experience (and friend's) MSI boards are inferior when compared to ASUS.
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I like ASUS as well but they have their own share of problems "when overclocked". I've been through 2 high end ASUS boards in the last year, 975X and 680i, and now I'm on Abit. I've had issues with every one of them 
Fortunately, I was able to get around most of the issues but I've also ended up with a dead P5N32-E which cost 15k on launch... on the other hand, an MSI Neo4 Platinum I set up for a friend over 2 years ago is still going strong. You should try overclocking your system to know what stability issues you will run into with ASUS
Fortunately, I was able to get around most of the issues but I've also ended up with a dead P5N32-E which cost 15k on launch... on the other hand, an MSI Neo4 Platinum I set up for a friend over 2 years ago is still going strong. You should try overclocking your system to know what stability issues you will run into with ASUS avi_avadhut
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guys i am also looking to upgrade my e6400 to 6850 or something...
i am going japan next week and will be back in Feb 1st week. is there any chance Penryn comes to market?
will my P5B delux WiFi support Penryn ? i dont want to change my mobo.
i have two plans -
sell E6400 right now and get good proc in Feb
sell 8800GTS 320MB HD-OC and get good GFX in Feb.
but no plan at all for new mobo in Feb. i dont want DDR3 or X38. if my current mobo can support Penryn then:hap2:
please suggest.
i am going japan next week and will be back in Feb 1st week. is there any chance Penryn comes to market?
will my P5B delux WiFi support Penryn ? i dont want to change my mobo.
i have two plans -
sell E6400 right now and get good proc in Feb
sell 8800GTS 320MB HD-OC and get good GFX in Feb.
but no plan at all for new mobo in Feb. i dont want DDR3 or X38. if my current mobo can support Penryn then:hap2:
please suggest.
avi_avadhut said:
Regarding Penryn availability, see this
Yes, ASUS P5B Deluxe Supports 45nm Penryn. Please see this
Keep your E6400. E6400 is very overclockable and considering the minuscule percentage of applications/games that support four-cores. you can do without replacing it. your 320MB graphics card is a serious bottleneck thought. save your money and wait for nVIDIA/ATI's next gen GPUs, buy whoever wins the performance crown. I think that covers all of your queries
I like ASUS as well but they have their own share of problems "when overclocked". I've been through 2 high end ASUS boards in the last year, 975X and 680i, and now I'm on Abit. I've had issues with every one of them
you said it yourself:
I know when I say this, I don't have experience to back this up. but anyway, If ASUS Boards are so god-awful at overclocking, why is that on every WR Overclocking system, they are used? why is that ASUS sells the most motherboards? and most importantly, if ASUS boards are so bad, why is that they get praising from pretty much every site that reviews them? (not talking about Shill-fest sites like INQ/TomsHardware) every board has fair share of problems, with 680i, the chipset itself is a bit finicky, so a lot of the time, the problems could be attributed to incompatibilities; rather than poor manufacturing. not trying to start a yes-no debate here (or troll), it's just that, personal experiences vary from user to user. ASUS boards almost always get high ratings and praising. atleast Higher than MSI anyway
Since you want to talk world records even though it's not relevant to his questions, here's something you probably don't know or choose to ignore: do you have any idea about the mods that go in to making any board, including ASUS, perfect for setting world records?
I still say you can't blindly diss a brand... it's like me saying ASUS sucks because 2 boards went bad on me (both expensive boards)... you obviously don't get the point so drop it at that.
I still say you can't blindly diss a brand... it's like me saying ASUS sucks because 2 boards went bad on me (both expensive boards)... you obviously don't get the point so drop it at that.
It was was not directed at his questions. it was rather directed at your bashing of ASUS complaining how unstable they are when overclocked. LN2 and Mosfet modding aren't done in thin air. you can't overclock if the board comes with inferior components and refuses to keep up with the crazy overclocking.
with all due respect, Just because I chose not to overclock my current system, doesn't make my overclocking knowledge inferior to yours. yes, It may not be up to date as yours. but you're basically stamping it as "omg teh n00b" Instead of making snarky comments, wouldn't it be better to explain and point where I am wrong? hey, If I am wrong, I always gladly eat my words. I chose not to overclock Q6600 because it gives great performance even at stock. and I am not the one those types that craves the highest 3DMark/SANDRA numbers.
I've seen four MSI boards go boom. none of them were cheap either, one of them was my older MSI RS350 board (Onboard sound/LAN died alongside Ram problems) the other two were 915G based and the fourth one was nF4 based. I don't get paid to be bias, I don't bash a brand for the sake of it either. as I said, MSI is good. but ASUS is simply better.
hey, I am retarded (read my sig)
evox said:
I wasn't bashing ASUS... I was merely pointing out that any board, despite it's brand, can have problems. I've probably owned more ASUS boards than you and I'll continue to buy/recommend good products. I don't diss brands (Razer, I do), I diss particular models/products that don't work well.
evox said:
"Knowing" or "saying you know" how to drive a car is different from actually driving one... either way I wasn't comparing knowledge levels, but it's a free world so you're free to interpret things any way you like.
evox said:
Well, I wouldn't be going back and forth if you "had" said MSI is good but ASUS is better... but your post really implied something else, to quote you:"don't get MSI motherboards. simple as that. get eVGA, ASUSTeK or abit; but not MSI". That could scare people away and I was merely correcting that statement of yours. I know of at least 5 high end ASUS boards that have died on TE/THL since Jan, but you don't see people asking others to stay away from ASUS.
Anyhow, I think there is enough information in this thread for people to frame their own opinions about MSI and ASUS so I'll step away and rest my case.
You owe yourself more respect than that man!evox said:
relaxedcrazyman
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anyways... what does everyone think of me getting the ASUS P5B Deluxe oc'ing my proc, then if i decide to later i can still upgrade to the penryn right? Newegg.com - Open Box: ASUS P5B Deluxe/WiFi-AP LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard
avi_avadhut
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P5B delux WiFi for 113$= 4.5k thats sad here.. this board still costs 12k here...
anyway thx for suggestion. now i will keep my 6400 as i will be happy if it runs@ 3GHz without any Vmod and all. and as i have 22WS monitor still i am not gamer at all. i just wanted to sell 8800GTS coz its getting discontinued. otherwise i am happy with the performance.
anyway thx for suggestion. now i will keep my 6400 as i will be happy if it runs@ 3GHz without any Vmod and all. and as i have 22WS monitor still i am not gamer at all. i just wanted to sell 8800GTS coz its getting discontinued. otherwise i am happy with the performance.
shahbaaz_vision
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I wud suggest you beter go for IntelC2D 6750+ Gigabyte P35-DS3R or Foxconn Mars.