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PriyoBan

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Hi,
I have a pc and a laptop in the house. I also have a sify broadband internet connection. I want to access the internet independantly from either pc using the same account. For instance I dont want a case where my pc needs to be logged onto the net for my laptop to access the net. Can I do this using an ethernet hub? Or do I have to get a router?
Thanx.
 
if you already have a network running between the two, all you need to do is enable 'Internet Connection Sharing' in your server machine's network properties (assuming you're on XP). I'm sharing my connection over 2 pc's. I just have 2 lan cards on my server machine. no hub, no router, no nothing.
 
I understand that system. But then my pc needs to be on for my laptop to access the internet right? But that is exactly what I want to avoid. I don't want the laptop to depend on the pc to access the internet. So I was thinking that whether I could connect the laptop and the pc to a switch or summin and connect the uplink of the switch/hub to the broadband cable. Then would I be able to run internet on either independantly or would I need to set up a router.
Thanx for the reply.
 
You'll need a Router...

Since u plan to use it with a laptop, i'd suggest getting a wireless -b/g router

SMC wireless -b routers come for as low as 1400/-

BTW though I have never used a Sify connection but from what I have heard, the default sify login client is a POS that will gibve you hazaar headaches while setting up ICS

There is a neat open source alternative to that available on Sourceforge.net

Don't rem' the name but just serach for Sify on sourcefforge and you'll get what u need
 
Sorry to butt in :bleh:
Hmmm, I just setup my old pc, and have connected both. I have mtnl triband, currently conected to old pc. The new pc get net thru old.

So what do I need to do? Get a switch / router?
 
if you don't mind keeping one of the PCs on all the time ...then you don't need a router

You'll just need to set the always on pc to act as the gateway for the other(s)

I think i had made a detailed post on this sometime back...

If you want, i can hunt it out for you
 
Well, everythings working right now. But I was ,wondering, just like the OP, if I could have independent access to internet.
 
Ok ok. Thanx.

But like dosent a router have like a configurable setup where u put in the gateway for ur isp and a username and password n stuff... so why would I need to use the sify client when I'm using a router. If I had a router won't it be like I put on the lan on my pc and I'm connected instantly without having to give the username and password again as the router has already connected itself to the internet and is then sharing that connection to all the other pcs connected to it? I thought thats wat routers did... but then again I might be talking crap.

I know that alternate client ur talkin abt. I tried using like two of them easy sify and super sify or summin to that effect. Both of them had that old version problem. And I couldnt use them after that.

Thanx again.
 
Well, everythings working right now. But I was ,wondering, just like the OP, if I could have independent access to internet.
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For that, you'll need the damned router

But like dosent a router have like a configurable setup where u put in the gateway for ur isp and a username and password n stuff..
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Routers will create only a transparent setup using NAT to allow all ur PCs on your LAN to connect to the WAN (from ur ISP)

However, a typical router will not know(and is not expected) to handle the POS prorietary login protocols that ISPs like Sify and Hathway use

If ur ISP supports an always on connection based say on MAC authentication (like Airtel) then you'd have had no issues

I' had faced a lot of issues with ICS when i was using Hathway (who use a :@ screwed-up client called 24online) but finally managed to get it up through a very circuitous method...Anyway, tht's a different story...
 
I know for a fact that sify registers the mac address of each individual user and u can only access their services through that registered mac address for that particular username.
So if this is case then I shouldnt be having any probs with the router. However I would just like to clarify with the sify customer care ppl once before, as i dont want to buy a 1400 rupee router and then use at as a pedestal.
Now the thing is these sify ppl are major dehatis. The buggers wont understand jack shit if ask them abt the client n stuff. Is there any simpler way to explain to them?
And thanx again dude.
 
And anyway like how'd u finally manage to use ur hathaway connection with your router.

Just incase thats the only option left for me.

Thanx.
 
priyoban said:
I know for a fact that sify registers the mac address of each individual user and u can only access their services through that registered mac address for that particular username.
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You can spoof the mac address of ur laptop easily ie ur pc n ur laptop can have same mac address.
 
Ya... I'm aware of that but that is not what I wanted to find out. All I want to make sure is whether I can use sify with a router. Just read the earlier posts.
 
AFAIK, Sify uses a login client on top of the MAC address matching....

If you have a login client based setup, youcan't configure your router to connect automatically....

And you'll need to keep the client installed on ur PCs

I don't think that should be that big an issue...is it?

Just do a search on the forum for 24online, and you'll know how some of us set up ICS and LAN despite the Hathway client trying its best to throw a monkey wrench :bleh:

However As I said, I don't have any 1st hand experience with Sify and I do not knowexactly how their login authentication works so no guarantees that ur setup ll work fine though...
 
Accha so heres what I figure, ill get a router and cofigure it to have the ip address that my isp supplied to me, and also the default gateway n stuff. After which ill connect my laptop and pc, and say a 3rd comp with the default client still on them. And Ill just login like I used to earlier. And I should have independnt. conn. on all of them after this rite?

Just temme whether ive got this straight.
 
should work fine....

Though you may have to ask ur ISP to change the MAC mapping at their end to that of the WAN MAC of the router
 
Ya Ya cool. Thanx a lot. Just one more question suppose with this setup I log in from my pc and leave the internet on, and then again i try and login from my laptop will there be any sort of conflict?

And one more thing I read in one of ur posts something abt using more bandwith than u pay for. So like if u use some alternate client do u actually end up with more bandwith or summin?
 
And one more thing I read in one of ur posts something abt using more bandwith than u pay for. So like if u use some alternate client do u actually end up with more bandwith or summin?QUOTE]

If i remember correctly, i had said that I don't want more bandwidth than what I pay for :devil: just the ability to set up ICS on my LAN :bleh: :tongue:

I thinku landed on the wrong thread though..there's a thread that was started by "Sunnyboi" where i had posted a step-by-step guide for him to share his net conn in spite of using 24online client

Just one more question suppose with this setup I log in from my pc and leave the internet on, and then again i try and login from my laptop will there be any sort of conflict?
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As I said, i know not much abt the Sify authentication mechanism....

On Hathway (And i think sify is very similar), you would get an error msg (already logged on) on the 2nd machine..Anyway, if 1 machine is logged on, you would not need to login from the other
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