iPod Video 30GB vs Creative Zen Vision:M

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Depends on where you are buying from, firstly.

And secondly on your needs.Pros for Vision M are better image,vid quality and bigger screen.

Vince has a Zen Vision M AFAIK.
 
and I think the creative will have better sound.

I have not personally experienced the Zen...but I do have an ipod and am not all that satisfied with the sound quality.
 
Creatives are known to hav better sound quality than iPods.. I dunno abt Zen Vision M, But my Zen touch sounded much better than the iPod.
Isnt the Zen Vision M thicker and heavier than the iPod?
 
The Ipod is all about looks and flaunt value and zilch in functionality. It doesn't even support playing avi files :P. The creative doesn't look as cool but has everything you need other than flaunt value :P.
 
Darthcoder said:
Depends on where you are buying from, firstly.
And secondly on your needs.Pros for Vision M are better image,vid quality and bigger screen.

Vince has a Zen Vision M AFAIK.
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Grey Market/US. Not sure.

Just need an MP3 player for 20GB+ for all my songs. Wouldn't mind watching a few LOST/Raymond episodes before going to bed .................................

Is the ipod's screen good enough for that ? OR is it as bad as the creative makes it out to be ?
Another thing is that i'm all for the anti-ipod thing, but the zen vision, as compared to the pood, is HUGE. Nearly 3rice as thick. So that's an imp. factor. Its easy to convert videos with videora and all and load em onto the ipod right ?
 
Chaos said:
The Ipod is all about looks and flaunt value and zilch in functionality. It doesn't even support playing avi files :P. The creative doesn't look as cool but has everything you need other than flaunt value :P.
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Let's not forget about ergonomics and build quality, which the ipod excels at. It's an mp3 player and it does its job extremely well.

Akshit, if mp3 playback is your first prerogative, then pick up the ipod without thinking twice. Regarding audio quality, I really haven't found any issues as such. But I do believe that it's the earplugs that limits the sound and not the player itself.
 
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Let's not forget about ergonomics and build quality, which the ipod excels at. It's an mp3 player and it does its job extremely well.

Akshit, if mp3 playback is your first prerogative, then pick up the ipod without thinking twice. Regarding audio quality, I really haven't found any issues as such. But I do believe that it's the earplugs that limits the sound and not the player itself.
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Yup. That indeed is bcoz of the crappy earphones.
 
Consider iAudio X5L too. its damn good player. Bought one couple of days ago for my friend. ultra cool player nice built quality and blows iPod in audio quality.
 
Heres my review of my Creative ZVM.
http://www.techenclave.com/forums/creative-zen-vision-m-30gb-review-69593.html

Other Features you should look at
iPod
->Unfortunately there are no 3rd party hacks for the ZVM, unlike the iPod, where you can use RockBox.
->Can play only mp4 movies.

Creative ZVM
->Cost-wise, Creative provides an Adaptor with the ZVM so you can charge it from a normal outlet. Unlike the IPod where this adaptor will cost you extra, taking its price over the ZVM.
->the presence of the Dock might make it irritating to some.
->plays almost all the (non-mp4) videos i've got. Good for videos downloaded from the net.
->MTU Compatible. i.e., Direct Plug and Play with WindowsXP+SP2

A friend bought a ZVM recently at Dubai. Price is Rs.14000.

@akshitmohan: The ZVM is not "THRICE" as thick as the iPod. Hardly 1.5 times. the weight would be almost twice. But then, i'd like to know if my mp3 player is in my pocket or not.

Like i said.
If you want something slim and light. Go for the IPod.

If you want something with (slightly) better vid quality, and ability to play videos of various codecs, and dont mind the sightly thicker and heavier ZVM, go for the ZVM.
 
Tracerbullet -- I disagree...the sound quality is not so good even with another pair of headphones.

I was using an iriver iFP flash player. Then it went kaput and I got an ipod 20 GB.

The first time I fired up my fav songs on it, I was stunned. Absolutely crushed. And I am not exaggerating here. I thought the sound will be at least as good as the iriver if not better. After all, I was paying 3 times the price.

Then I thought maybe the EQ settings were screwed up. The ipod does not allow for customizable EQ settings. I set the EQ to ROCK and while it was better, it was still no where close to what I was used to.

Even today, I feel my 14 yr old Sony D-830 discman has better sound quality. Sometimes, just for kicks, I put in an audio CD and listen to music on the Sony discman.

Of course, you get used to the sound quality after a time.
 
Well this is the simplest question to answer.

Creative Zen Vision : M

Reason loaded with features.

Regarding the Audio Quality Vince can tell u more about it since he has it.
 
The greatest + of Ipod's success was the Itunes...people cud buy music and vdos...and transfer it hassle free....Of course...the build quality and the ease of use is great...

But otherwise...the Creative Zen Vision: M must be a better buy because of its features...sorry, I haven't seen this player. But the reviews look promising.

P.S. If you are buying an Ipod...try getting someone from Cognizant Tech to help you out...the guys there got Ipod vids and they were selling them off cheap ( with Indian warranty, Box packed. Of course you'll have to live with some engravings on the back)
 
@DuBudhi: Yea you are right, some peeps i knew were selling it off for Rs.10k+

@Quadmasta': Yea, Audio quality is as good as the iPod IMHO. Else get a better set of Earphones. I've wrapped up my bundled ZVM earphones and am using cheap quality ones for now. have to get abothr good pair soon.

@Akshitmohan: Yes, used a friend's iPod a few times. Its got a few games, that might be useful if you dont have a good hi-end phone with games:p
And useful for reading text files too... but even though i loaded some, didnt wanna read it :p

Also, do check out the iAudio series (X5L or whatever) that was my first choice but my pal in the US couldnt find it anywhere..i think thats a great player too
 
Fast forwarding in ZVM: speed is of the "build-up" kind
In ZVM, certain encoded vids seem to lag if you fast forward too much.

Video quality you ask?
Ipod Video: 65K colours
ZVM: 262K colours
 
Can u fwd or rewind on the ipod ?

But is there a big diff ? I mean, if say im watchin LOST on the ipod, is it like baaad ?
 
i dunno, ask someone whos used the ipod video extensively for that .. Nikhil?

but then with the ipod you'd have to ENCODE ALL your vids into that mp4 format right?
unlike the ZVM where i dump many downloaded vids directly..
 
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