PC Peripherals Let's Talk about Ink!

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Hello Friends!

We at HP would like to engage you in a little conversation about what you think of our products and services

We would be happy to know about which HP printer you are using and what you can say about it. In the spirit of real discussion, please feel free to say anything you want.

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Ink has always been one of the most talked-about topic whenever printer discussions arise. We at HP would like to engage you in a little conversation about it.

We would be happy to know about which types of ink you use with your HP printer. Do you use only original HP inks? Do you use re-manufactured and/or refill inks? Or do you use a combination of both original and third party inks? And what experiences do you have with them? In the spirit of real discussion, please feel free to say anything you want.

Cheers!

Mr. Thomas Lee

Interactive Strategy Manager

Asia-Pacific, IPG Marketing

Hewlett-Packard
 
Re: Which HP Printer are you using?

"how many HP printers are rotting in your garage, because the cartridges are f**king expensive" ?

I had 2. gave 1 to the kabadiwallah
 
Re: Which HP Printer are you using?

I am using F4488 and have sold 6 numbers of the same to my clients apart from other printers
 
Re: Which HP Printer are you using?

yeah the printers are good but cartridges are too expensive

i m using F4488
 
Re: Which HP Printer are you using?

I have the HP DJ F4185 AIO.

Besides the ink cartridges being expensive, the only con I can think of is that the scanner and the default software provided is not to the mark. The default software is too much of a bloat on the pc with little performance in it.

The default windows printer drivers work better. And i can scan faster from an applications Twain interface than when using the provided software. Descreen is a joke. No support for decsreen dpi in it. So in the end I uninstalled the HP software. Your printer works faster without it installed :D
 
I use original HP ink...costs me Rs.800 or so..and gets finished very fast..very annoying.. :)

never used a third party ink till now..

but may turn to refilling..

HP original ink is very expensive and not affordable for everyone..
 
Contrary to all the propaganda, refilling has no compromise with respect to "leaking" or "quality of the prints", if done professionally. "Professionally" as in these days it is not uncommon to see dedicated booths for cartridges refilling nearby computer related electronic stores, a trend that has evolved out of the exorbitant pricing of cartridges. In most cases over 10 times the cost of refilling.

So quite frankly, HP is gonna have no market in the general population segment unless they work on their pricing.
 
Mr Thomas, you have 2 options

1) Price ink sensibly as say Epson does now. Ink at an affordable rate. Epson is also trying their best to prevent people from refilling, with their chip on the cartridge and stuff, but as long as they price it sensibly, it will sell.

2) Make ur cartridges easy to refill. It may not sound very logical, but I know many people who buy printers after looking specifically at how easily that can refill it :)

This is India, boss, not some european/US market. People will easily find ways to cut costs; no matter how you try to discourage them. We are too smart!!

People in US will buy a $30 printer and $15 gold/diamond plated superconducting monster usb cable, but never in India :P
 
ragzdiablo said:
I use original HP ink...costs me Rs.800 or so..and gets finished very fast..very annoying.. :)
never used a third party ink till now..
but may turn to refilling..
HP original ink is very expensive and not affordable for everyone..
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I hope you would devote time to read this link before you start using third party ink :) Original HP Inks

This is just to inform you but at the end of the day everything is ultimately your choice.

Cheers!

Mr. Thomas Lee
Interactive Strategy Manager
Asia-Pacific, IPG Marketing
Hewlett-Packard
 
^^ This is hilarious!!! :rofl:

Instead of showing us some propoganda from your own hp website, for a survey that was paid for by HP (pleeease) atleast pretend to show us some independent survey so that you may retain some semblance of credibility :D
 
Are such promotional threads allowed on TE ? And that too blindly promoting something which users don't even want ?
 
Diesel (regular) in Mumbai : Rs.36.08 per litre

Petrol (speed) in Mumbai : Rs.52 per litre

Coca Cola 330 ml can : Rs.20 = Rs.61 per litre

Dettol antiseptic 100 ml Rs.20 = Rs.200 per litre

Radiator coolant 500 ml Rs.160 = Rs.320 per litre

Pantene conditioner 400 ml Rs..165 = Rs.413 per litre

Medicinal mouthwash like Listerine 100 ml Rs.45 = Rs. 450 per litre

Red Bull 150 ml can : Rs.75 = Rs.500 per litre

Corex cough syrup 100 ml Rs.57 = Rs. 570 per litre

Evian water 500 ml Rs. 330 = Rs. 660 per litre

Rs. 500 for a litre of WATER???!!! And the buyers don't even know the source (Evian spelled backwards is Naive.)

Kores whiteout 15 ml Rs. 15 = Rs. 1000 per litre

Cup of coffee at any decent business hotel 150 ml Rs. 175 = Rs. 1167 per litre

Old Spice after shave lotion 100 ml Rs. 175 = Rs. 1750 per litre

Pure almond oil 25 ml Rs. 68 = Rs. 2720 per litre

And this is the REAL KICKER...

HP deskjet colour ink cartridge 21 ml Rs.1900 = Rs. 90476 per litre!!!

This was a forward from a friend :)
 
I am using HP Deskjet D2360 [HP 21b Black Inkjet Print Cartridge], till now i am using original cartridge, which cost me around Rs. 350
 
^^ Add to the list Human Blood at a decent hospital: 200ml - 1000 Rs. = 5000 per Litre. Still cheaper than HP ink. :P
 
It's only in professional environments that sustained use of company-supplied toners is possible. I am not use that on a consumer-oriented site like this one, you will find favorable conversations. That said, it is my personal experience that often the cost of a new printer may be less than buying original ink cartridges.

I had a Deskjet 640C, for which a full cartridge set was Rs. 2400 (around US$45 in the day), a new printer was the same price as that. I don't see the need to continue using the printer in such a situation. I gave it away to a ragpicker, and bought a F2235 multifunction. I have not used it enough to run through the first cartridge sets - and I only use the black cartridge anyway. But when I do, I will be using refilled for sure. The 21B is a decent option for folks on a budget, and I've bought one to try out.

I thank you for inviting the conversation, but be aware it may not be what you're looking for. I have seen leakage from refilled cartridges destroy a printer, but equally I've seen original ones dry up after a month or so of disuse. If you can (and I don't know you can) make extraordinary promises, then you may have a bigger toehold in the inks market. Such as, a lifetime guarantee if only HP original inks are used for a printer.

I also don't see any traction from company-sponsored research - think syndicated, government approved or public interest material. most SMBs and individuals will use recycled cartridges or third-party 'compatible' cartridges unless you are able to take measures to provide affordable products.

Ink is obviously the reason your printers are so cheap (and is a bigger revenue generator than the hardware) - somehow this does not apply to your larger commercial products, where the equipment is pricey enough that the inks are (proportionally) reasonably priced. It would also make sense to compare printer inks with commercial inks, such as used in the printing industry, to see what it takes to actually make ink. Very few people know this, or have comparisons.
 
I am very disappointed with HP :@

1. Make original cartridge price LESS

2. Make your Cartridges Refillable and also Give us the option to purchase original HP INK at low cost

:@
 
can we tell you how pathetic hp-compaq laptops are since you are from hp?

if i maybe permitted ::

the build quality is hopeless and there are thermal issues but sadly the worst nightmare for me was ur hp-compaq service center ! the staff arent bothered about you or your product.

your duty doesn't just end with selling us some overpriced terribly built hardware -- it begins when you sell it to us. make the experience a bit bearable! and don't present us with some customer satisfaction survey stating your service is better than anyone else's---look at dell --try to match dell where it really matters--customer satisfaction!

cheerio!
 
sunny27 said:
can we tell you how pathetic hp-compaq laptops are since you are from hp?

if i maybe permitted ::

the build quality is hopeless and there are thermal issues but sadly the worst nightmare for me was ur hp-compaq service center ! the staff arent bothered about you or your product.

your duty doesn't just end with selling us some overpriced terribly built hardware -- it begins when you sell it to us. make the experience a bit bearable! and don't present us with some customer satisfaction survey stating your service is better than anyone else's---look at dell --try to match dell where it really matters--customer satisfaction!

cheerio!
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buddy this guy (HP guy) just spammed on all 4 forums i am on, same question :D
 
I am using an HP printer which uses No 21 & No. 22 Cartridge. They are very expensive. I think they give no more than 150 black printouts in a Rs 800 ink cartridge.

But I refill them myself. They are very easy to refill. I refill them for 5-6 times before they go bad. Bulk ink costs about Rs200-Rs 250 for a 200ml bottle. But even after all the effort, I dont think I save much as compared to a Canon laser.

I have used the word Canon because earlier HP laser printers were using decent refillable #12A laser Toners. But they have switched to hopeless small toner packages with chip to prevent refilling. But I have heard that the current canon printers are using the same #12A cartridge. This is because earlier the HP laser was based on Canon (or supplied bu them).

So whenever my current cartridge dies, I think I shall buy a canon laser.

But no doubt, the HP cartridges are prices insanely. And then they make false claim in the media that the refilled cartridges cost more! I guess they compare it to some hopless quality ink refills. But currently desmat and inktec inks are working fine.
 
Ha Ha!,ill always refill ,even though i own hp laserjet 3015.
Diesel (regular) in Mumbai : Rs.36.08 per litre
Petrol (speed) in Mumbai : Rs.52 per litre
Coca Cola 330 ml can : Rs.20 = Rs.61 per litre
Dettol antiseptic 100 ml Rs.20 = Rs.200 per litre
Radiator coolant 500 ml Rs.160 = Rs.320 per litre
Pantene conditioner 400 ml Rs..165 = Rs.413 per litre
Medicinal mouthwash like Listerine 100 ml Rs.45 = Rs. 450 per litre
Red Bull 150 ml can : Rs.75 = Rs.500 per litre
Corex cough syrup 100 ml Rs.57 = Rs. 570 per litre
Evian water 500 ml Rs. 330 = Rs. 660 per litre
Rs. 500 for a litre of WATER???!!! And the buyers don't even know the source (Evian spelled backwards is Naive.)
Kores whiteout 15 ml Rs. 15 = Rs. 1000 per litre
Cup of coffee at any decent business hotel 150 ml Rs. 175 = Rs. 1167 per litre
Old Spice after shave lotion 100 ml Rs. 175 = Rs. 1750 per litre
Pure almond oil 25 ml Rs. 68 = Rs. 2720 per litre
And this is the REAL KICKER...
HP deskjet colour ink cartridge 21 ml Rs.1900 = Rs. 90476 per litre!!!
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Hilarious!! :rofl: :rofl:
 
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