Storage Solutions Low RPM HDDs - Do they really make a difference?

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harshit143

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Guys i need a hard disk now. I checked the prices and i m getting 1TB drive for about 2700 WD's Caviar Green. But as we know that their RPM's are 5400, i wanna know does these RPM's Really make a difference?
I mean i wanna use this drive to install games, Dual boot my PC with windows 7 and as a dumping ground for all stuff i download.Whats gonna be an advantage if i choose 7200 RPM Drive over 5400RPM and will that speed be noticable in all these fields??
Secondly i wanna know shud i invest in 2TB Direct?? I can invest in 2TB if i can get it under 4k....Is it possible to get the drive under 4k?
 
Re: Low RPM HDD's...Does they really make a difference??

RPM = Rotations per minute

The hard discs are made of small platters and the read/write head rotates and accesses the right place to read/write data. Slower rotation speed means it will take more time to access data in both read/write.

So 5400 RPM HDD will be significantly slower than 7200RPM HDD.

Buffering also has an important role to play in his matter.
 
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Re: Low RPM HDD's...Does they really make a difference??

Will it affect my gaming significantly?? Because i dont have any issue regarding backuping the data...
 
Re: Low RPM HDD's...Does they really make a difference??

I would suggest the Seagate 2TB Model ST2000DL003. You should be able to get this for a little under 4.5k This is a Green series drive operating at 5900 RPM, but the speeds are surprisingly decent.
 
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Go for a Black Edition. Lil bit more, but much faster.
 
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Afaik, 2TB Black is close to double the price.

get the seagate 7200.12 series HDD. price is almost similar to the WD green, but much faster. Sometimes it beats WD black in sequential read/write but not in access times.

nitant said:
Go for a Black Edition. Lil bit more, but much faster.
 
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harshit143 said:
Will it affect my gaming significantly?? Because i dont have any issue regarding backuping the data...
the average read speed of a WD green HDD is ~90-95mbps, i guess it is OK for games, but still you can better get yourself a WD blue one whose speed is ~100-110mbps.

Green drives are eco-friendly and they are good for backup. You can still make it your OS drive, but comparing to your current hardware, it will be a bottleneck to the system
 
Re: Low RPM HDD's...Does they really make a difference??

Both the 2TB's aren't meant for heavy usage. Seagate 2TB drivers are crashing due to build quality issues and WD drives are crashing due to their green series intelli-power saving feature(head parking after 8 secs leading to a very high Load/Unload cycle count).

Both these drivers will give you not more than 40-45MB/s of actual real world performance. Hell, they'll reach even below 20 MB/s after you fill up > 60% capacity.

If you really want an OS hard drive the only option that you have is a WD 2 TB Black nut these cost 2 times that of the above models.

The Best-Bet for you is to get 2 X Seagate 7200.12 1TBs and enjoy. This will cost you ~ 800-900 bucks more than a 2TB but will give you a huge performance increment.
 
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Even though the 'green' drives have caught up in sequential read/writes, 7200 rpm drives still have the upper hand in access times. This is noticeable whenever there are a lot of small files being randomly accessed, like on your OS. I would say get a 7200 rpm drive since its your OS/program drive.

If you're on a tight budget, get one of the mainstream drives; it doesn't have to be the expensive WD Black.

In that case, it has to be the Seagate 7200.12 . The WD Blue isn't available locally in 1TB capacities yet (someone correct me if i'm wrong).

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aman.pitbull said:
WD drives are crashing due to their green series intelli-power saving feature(head parking after 8 secs leading to a very high Load/Unload cycle count).

Both these drivers will give you not more than 40-45MB/s of actual real world performance. Hell, they'll reach even below 20 MB/s after you fill up > 60% capacity.

The connection between WD Green drives failing and load/unload count is not true. It just used to trigger alerts in SMART monitoring tools. Even the WD 'fix' just made this parameter invisible to SMART monitoring, but it still happens. Laptop drives park their heads far more often but don't really fail because of that.

I assume you are referring to sequential speeds for green drives. It doesn't drop that low, i.e. 20MB/s.

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Crazy_Eddy said:
Even though the 'green' drives have caught up in sequential read/writes, 7200 rpm drives still have the upper hand in access times. This is noticeable whenever there are a lot of small files being randomly accessed, like on your OS. I would say get a 7200 rpm drive since its your OS/program drive.

If you're on a tight budget, get one of the mainstream drives; it doesn't have to be the expensive WD Black.

In that case, it has to be the Seagate 7200.12 . The WD Blue isn't available locally in 1TB capacities yet (someone correct me if i'm wrong).

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The connection between WD Green drives failing and load/unload count is not true. It just used to trigger alerts in SMART monitoring tools. Even the WD 'fix' just made this parameter invisible to SMART monitoring, but it still happens. Laptop drives park their heads far more often but don't really fail because of that.

I assume you are referring to sequential speeds for green drives. It doesn't drop that low, i.e. 20MB/s.

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WD's fix doesn't make the parameter invisible, I've used the WD-idle tool and I can still see the load unload cycle rising but now it has reduced substantially. Using WD idle tool one can set it to park heads to a maximum time of 300sec/5Mins, yes there is another function that allows us to stop the idle-timer but it's giving BSOD errors and very slow transfer rates so it cannot/shouldn't be used.

Well you're absolutely correct that the laptop drives that can have high load/unload cycles since they are built to do so, but the Green series drives have a really bad build quality(basically the reading head assembly) compared to them and cannot take such a huge amount of stress.

The typical lifetime rating for laptop (2.5-in) hard drives is 300,000 to 600,000 load cycles. Since they park their heads in just 8 seconds there may be 100 or more load cycles per hour, and the load cycle rating may be exceeded in less than a year.

Green's are not designed properly to do so, if you run a WD green below 33C you'll be able to hear loud noise whenever the reading head's reading on the disk randomly and it goes away as soon as the temperature reaches the 37C mark. This(low quality) may be due to the low MTBF for this series of HDD's compared to blue and black series.

Apart from that new Greens cannot be used in a RAID setup.

Dude, I'm getting a constant reading speed of >30MB/s on my green WD20EARS but while writing data on it, sometimes it does reach <15MB/s. And my HDD's LCC averages to about 2 LCC per hour which I think is very decent.

I think that WD's green drives are awesome theoretically but looking at what the current nightmarish scene is with these green drives I can hardly recommend it to anyone. They should either be able to stop idle-timer(intelli power saving) or provide a better quality reading head assembly.
 
Get 2 separate 1TB Drive's 1 seagate 1TB @ 7200rpm & 1TB WD 1TB @ 5400rpm

Install all your OS & Games on the Seagate one & use the other one for Storage of other Misc. things

I do agree that Build Quality of WD is much better than seagate, WD does feel that its well built.

The Green ones are intended for Storing Data & Backups not for OS Drives.
 
aasimenator said:
Get 2 separate 1TB Drive's 1 seagate 1TB @ 7200rpm & 1TB WD 1TB @ 5400rpm

Install all your OS & Games on the Seagate one & use the other one for Storage of other Misc. things

I do agree that Build Quality of WD is much better than seagate, WD does feel that its well built.

The Green ones are intended for Storing Data & Backups not for OS Drives.
I liked this the best idea.....
 
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My suggestion is to get 7200 RPM hdds. It will make the access time of your games/apps decently faster than the 5400 RPM ones. If you really intend to get 5400 RPM ones, get two of them and configure a Raid 0 set up. It will be lot lot faster than any single hdd. SSDs are a different matter though.

If you want the things blazing fast. save up a little and get a 80 GB SSD for OS/1 or two games. No other hdd can match the performance of an SSD.
 
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