Malaysian plane crashed in Ukraine

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I would contend its you that only looking at the half side of the story. Go direct your ire at Hamas.

You want rights then behave like a responsible entity.

Our govt is ignoring because the smartest thing to do when your friends are facing difficulties is to shut up.

Israel is India's second biggest arms supplier ;)
 
People are forced to live in the world's largest jail which is surrounded by 3 fronts by Israel(2 sides Israel, 1 seaside-also Israel navy and one barbed-wire close border with Egypt)
actually, it's Israel which is surrounded by Arabs all around. they are always in a state of paranoia :p
 
Seriously, plz go enlighten yourself via google, wiki and blogs.

I would not have posted if I don't have any proof.
See, i'm not disputing the points you've mentioned. That Israel has very restrictive conditions on Gaza is accepted

The question you have to ask yourself is why, after 2005 when the Israelis quit Gaza, forcibly evicting their own settlers that some sense of stability has not yet been achieved in 2014. That punitive expeditions still have to be sent in and the present one isn't the first of them.

Compare gaza with the west bank and you will see a difference where the latter seems to have become relatively more stable since 2008, its totally different with gaza. why ?

So when the israelis go in and you want our govt to denounce them, that is saying a country has no right to defend itself. Hamas keeps launching rockets whenever they want, they go into peoples homes and tell them they will be launching and if anything happens they will rebuild the home. Been going on now for many years. Unless they stop and seriously consider changing then those restrictions you mentioned are not going to go away.
 
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See, i'm not disputing the points you've mentioned. That Israel has very restrictive conditions on Gaza is accepted

The question you have to ask yourself is why, after 2005 when the Israelis quit Gaza, forcibly evicting their own settlers that some sense of stability has not yet been achieved in 2014. That punitive expeditions still have to be sent in and the present one isn't the first of them.

Compare gaza with the west bank and you will see a difference where the latter seems to have become relatively more stable since 2008, its totally different with gaza. why ?

So when the israelis go in and you want our govt to denounce them, that is saying a country has no right to defend itself. Hamas keeps launching rockets whenever they want, they go into peoples homes and tell them they will be launching and if anything happens they will rebuild the home. Been going on now for many years. Unless they stop and seriously consider changing then those restrictions you mentioned are not going to go away.
I told u to get some knowledge before posting anything.

Why Israel has grown in power so much?
Why Palestine area is shrinking ?
How much gas reserves is beneath Gaza? (FYI its more than 1 trillion cubic feet)
Why Hamas was created?

Hamas was declared foreign terrorist organization by the U.S. State, just like Al Qaeda which was created by US itself for sneaking into Russia and later US was on spree to destroy Al Qaeda.

If Hamas is still terr. organization, why to kill innocent children & women(don't give me excuse that terrorist hide behind them, so we have to kill everybody)

According to latest reports 750 Palestinians have been killed and Israel is now targeting refuge shelters and UN human right centers apart from Hospitals and residence they are already targeting.
http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/live-israel-shells-un-refuge-pressure-for-ga za-truce-mounts_950021.html

And yes, even if Hamas is launching rockets, which have almost negligible accuracy and are short ranged.......Israel blocking most of rockets using dome type missile targeting system (AEWC&C), which tracks all incoming projectiles and destroy it on the way(Same defense technology which India has imported 3 of them from Israel @ 1.1 billion dollars).

Also IDF(Israel Defense Force) using Flachette shells in their bombings which was banned and described as illegal under “rules of humanitarian law”(just like cluster bombs in Iraq if you know).
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israelgaza-conflict-israeli- military-using-flechette-rounds-in-gaza-strip-9617480.html

I have not heard any news that x no. of people have died from rocket attack in Israel, instead i heard news that people are watching Gaza bombing from hill-tops and clapping for every bang.
 
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Completely DISAGREE with your views, as you are looking only half side of the story.

They don't kidnapped 3 Teens becoz of fun or daily excercise, but only because of grief, despair and anger because killing of innocents by regular bombings(recent toll is 715 and continuing)
Tell me how many Israelis have died since teen-killings.

First check how many Palestinians have died from the Israel's Air Strike and their check posts inside Palestine and surrounding borders.
People are forced to live in the world's largest jail which is surrounded by 3 fronts by Israel(2 sides Israel, 1 seaside-also Israel navy and one barbed-wire close border with Egypt)
No one is allowed to enter Palestine nor some one is allowed to go outside the country.
Even Human Right activists are sometime now allowed to shoot and cover story.
All food supplies, medicine goes after Israeli checking.

Our govt is ignoring because of Israel has the backing of US and India can't go against US because of many reasons.
Also include buying sophisticated defense weapons like AWACS Phalcon etc.

While what's happening there is unpleasant, I hope you do realize that Israel has no choice in the matter. If given a choice and chance, Palestine and few others and around Israel would like to kill every single Israeli in existence without having any reason for it other than them being Israelis and yeah it is not because of the conflict, but rather the conflict is because of this attitude. Attacks on Israelis are not a one off incidents. Its an every day occurrence and when ever limits are crossed, they retaliate 10 fold back. This is a vicious cycle that has been going on for centuries.
 
You want rights then behave like a responsible entity.
Pls look at the history of these two states.....

Our govt is ignoring because the smartest thing to do when your friends are facing difficulties is to shut up.
Maybe you are still unaware of this but our Govt is not ignoring this or is silent on this. Except for USA 17 other nations including INDIA. Yes INDIA has voted yes for UN intervention and investigation in the issue.
Israel is India's second biggest arms supplier ;)
Russia is FIRST biggest....
So what .... Even they need to behave responsibly then....
We are not Americans. We dont have different scales for friendly nations and enemy states.
Just because Russia or Israel are largest arms suppliers to India does not mean we stand by them in their "attrocities"
Just assume it was not MH17 but an Indian passenger plane with all Indian passengers....and it was shot down by Russians.
Do we still stand by Russia and defend them????
NOOOOO
We blow their ass off.....
Sadly many European nations are individually small and lot of their trade transactions come from Russian banks and industries.
Also in return they depend on russia for minerals and gas.
So its all politics.....
You agree with my views or not... it still remains the same....
The attack on MH 17 accidental or planned was by Russians and russian arms.
And Israel hell bent on sweeping out the last palestine .... They want the entire land for themselves....
 
We kick asses of the second biggest superpower on the earth?
Dafuq did I just read?

India attacks Russia. Russia hits back. China, an ally of Russia, hits back. Pakistan, with its USA backing hits back. USA itself hits back.
And we're done.

Russia is like the sticker you find on cars.
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I told u to get some knowledge before posting anything.
You should discuss with Israelis and get the other side of the story.

Hamas was declared foreign terrorist organization by the U.S. State, just like Al Qaeda which was created by US itself for sneaking into Russia and later US was on spree to destroy Al Qaeda.

If Hamas is still terr. organization, why to kill innocent children & women(don't give me excuse that terrorist hide behind them, so we have to kill everybody)
Hamas is a democratically elected entity that could not care a damn about its people and only thrives on conflict. if peace were to break out Hamas would be redundant. Arafat spent decades fighting Israelis and when Madrid happened he did not know what to do. This is common problem with many war time leaders.

According to latest reports 750 Palestinians have been killed and Israel is now targeting refuge shelters and UN human right centers apart from Hospitals and residence they are already targeting.
http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/live-israel-shells-un-refuge-pressure-for-ga za-truce-mounts_950021.html
Why are looking at just latest reports, go see the old reports too. What i ask Israelis is after this latest manouever what do you have. They say a temporary reprieve. They cannot stop the violence, there is no strategy, no roadmap. The latest attempt by Obama to bring peace to that troubled part of the world just failed. So its back to tactical victories.

Indian media only mentions when pals gets hit. We never get to hear when Israelis get hit. Why care about them.

Where is the balance in all what you said ?
 
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Maybe you are still unaware of this but our Govt is not ignoring this or is silent on this. Except for USA 17 other nations including INDIA. Yes INDIA has voted yes for UN intervention and investigation in the issue.
But did not allow the subject for discussion in parliament. So we keep the Israelis & Arabs happy.

Russia is FIRST biggest....
So what .... Even they need to behave responsibly then....
Yes, they do. Putin is in a fight and looks responsible because he supplied the weapons that downed the plane. He's not ready to admit this if ever.

Nobody has accused anybody yet.

Why did Ukraine allow over flights over a war zone ? because transit fees net them 200m a year.
Why did the civil aviation authorities allow overflights over a warzone that has downed Ukranian military aircraft in the last couple of months. No answer.
Why do planes actually fly on these routes ? to save fuel

A lot of cockups happened together here. Nobody intended to down this plane, neither rebels, ukrainians or russians. Its an accident.

We are not Americans. We dont have different scales for friendly nations and enemy states.
Just because Russia or Israel are largest arms suppliers to India does not mean we stand by them in their "attrocities"
Just assume it was not MH17 but an Indian passenger plane with all Indian passengers....and it was shot down by Russians.
Do we still stand by Russia and defend them????
NOOOOO
We blow their ass off.....
This is why i'm glad we had nothing to do with it. There are quite a few Indians studying in Ukraine that were evacuated earlier.

Sadly many European nations are individually small and lot of their trade transactions come from Russian banks and industries.
Also in return they depend on russia for minerals and gas.
So its all politics.....
You agree with my views or not... it still remains the same....
The Dutch are most upset. It's the US, UK & Australia making all the noise.

Countries might be small but the EU isn't. Germany in particular needs to diversify its sources of energy.

The attack on MH 17 accidental or planned was by Russians and russian arms.
Agree

And Israel hell bent on sweeping out the last palestine .... They want the entire land for themselves....
They won't get it. So try and work out some sort of arrangement then. Not happening.

Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed is a clause they have whenever peace talks come up and this means very easy for whole process to fail and it does many times now. Instead it should be what is agreed will be acted upon
 
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We kick asses of the second biggest superpower on the earth?
Dafuq did I just read?

India attacks Russia. Russia hits back. China, an ally of Russia, hits back. Pakistan, with its USA backing hits back. USA itself hits back.
And we're done.
We dont... in reality... but that is what we should do.....
our Govt is so hopeless that we still could not avenge 26/11. Leave aside fighting with powerful nations.
But with Modi in power now... I think India would want to reallign its friends and re establish itself as a powerful nation and create a new image for itself.
 
Re-allign with friends means distancing ourself from Russia and supporting Israel.

You must be hallucinating real good, mate.
 
Re-allign with friends means distancing ourself from Russia and supporting Israel.
distancing ourself from Russia -- YES
supporting Israel. -- NO.
We should be powerful enough to tell them that they are wrong if they are wrong and we do not support what they do.
Personally I dont think what ever justifications Israel gives is worthy enough to allow the massacare of 1000s of palestines every year.
Jews roam around the world crying about the Jewish holocaust by Naziis... What are they doing now??
And for what?
 
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