Market Feedback MODS need to do something.

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I have been seeing lately that sellers who start thread in member's market are very rude when suggested about price. They just want to kill the guy who suggest price at which old or new product should be sold. There are guys who change their price with the help of members suggestions but there are some who just talk rudely and threaten to report to MODS.

Look at this thread- http://www.techenclave.com/members-market/ps3-games-146811.html

Ethan_Hunt just suggested him and look at sellers way of talking as if hunt is stealing his buyers or something. I know sellers have right to quote price and suggestions or lowballing should be done through pm but still seller should respect members and should be polite even if their is anybody's fault because we all are here to help each other in any and every way and mods should add 1 more rule for market section that Members of TE can report to mods if price of one product is high and if MODS find it appropriate then they can suggest or tell seller to reduce his price(JUST MY SUGGESTION).We all are family here and each and every member of this family should be RESPECTED.

Sorry if i said something wrong.

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Sorry to say, but here the thread starter has the point. There is no restrictions on price he wants for his items. If anyone is interested, contact him. If someone sells something for low price, does not mean everyone has to. Conditions under which items are sold are different. Someone wants urgent cash, someone wants what the product deserves. You cant tell someone that some other guy sold it cheaper so now you sell it cheaper.

As long as his prices are cheaper than retail, nothing can be done, and nothing should be done.
 
^^ See it is simple.

Buyer has full rights to sell his product in watever price he wants.

If you think price is too high than you can choose pm route.

But if buyer has mentioned that price is non negotiable than its no point asking buyer to revise the price.

I completely agree with you that seller should not be rude but i think if buyer has mentioned that offers only through pm and price non negotiable than better to stay away from the thread.

Thats my suggestion :D
 
^ my main point is sellers being rude nothing else because things told in rude way can be said in polite way also or without replying post can be reported to mods and they will take action but being rude and replying is just not a way of replying.... i think everybody agrees with me here....
 
Every one has his own way of interpreting things and answering in that manner largely depends on user's mind and perception to that deal.

I agree with Punker that it could be answered in better way and we are here to make friends not enemies.

Just my 10c.
 
whats the point of having a forum with members when the seller can sell any thing at any price and no one should raise his voice if the seller is overcharging, its unfair, anything new or old should be sold at the prevailing market price, and we as members have the right to speak up on the main thread to make others aware if they are being overcharged.
 
After a while and specially after replying "cost of the new one is 1500-1599/- at the market.

i think my price is pretty reasonable since all 3 games are pretty well handled and barely played." still if someone posts that see some guy at some other forum sold preowned bundled game cheaper, anyone will reply like that.

It was firm language, not foul/rude language by the seller. I saw his posts and then deleted all others.
 
woozydevotee said:
whats the point of having a forum with members when the seller can sell any thing at any price and no one should raise his voice if the seller is overcharging, its unfair, anything new or old should be sold at the prevailing market price, and we as members have the right to speak up on the main thread to make others aware if they are being overcharged.
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There is another thread here discussing these points.

The conclusion is, its seller's right to decide the price. If buyer is interested, he can negotiate via PM.

If seller is unfairly overcharging, and then someone point it out, we do not delete such posts.

Noone has right to decide what is fair price and what is not on 2nd hand item costing 1599 in market. Its buyer's call to decide if its right price for him or not. and its sellers call to decide what price he wants.
 
^ that means using firm language is allowed and if members do the same in sellers thread then he gets a warning... thats not good.... i totally agree with price thing but wat about language used? if i say in firm language to u and you take it as rude way then surely their will be arguments....
 
Punker said:
^ that means using firm language is allowed and if members do the same in sellers thread then he gets a warning... thats not good....
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Its not the question of being good or bad. Its not right to try to force or even suggest someone to sell the item for lower price just because your friend sold it cheaper. Or for that matter, anyone else. And seller's thread is definitely not the place to do so.
 
I have seen it pointed out by other mods that if you are unhappy with the price, you should most definitely pm the seller and see if they are interested in lowering the price. The problem seems to be that it is a tactic of some to comment in the thread to try and push a lower price by saying where they may have seen it cheaper when the dealer is in fact offering at a fair price.

If the dealer is offering the item at twice the going rate, they have a right to do this, no one has to buy it, this is all about supply and demand. No one will buy a product that is priced too high and a dealer is not going to sell a product until he lowers it to a price that someone considers fair.

This appears to be more of an issue of consistency than anything else, if everyone uses pm's to negotiate on prices as requested by many of the mods repeatedly, many of the issues arising in the Market place would not take place.

There is never an excuse to be rude to another member, but as I have found out recently myself, things don't always read the same way they are spoken, and often one can perceive something as harsh when the intent was not to be.
 
PiXeLpUsHeR said:
This appears to be more of an issue of consistency than anything else, if everyone uses pm's to negotiate on prices as requested by many of the mods repeatedly, many of the issues arising in the Market place would not take place.
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But then, members should be patient enough to not reply rudely to suggestions sent via PM just because PM's are not implicitly moderated. A seller can always be firm on his price, there is no harm if someone suggests/requests a lower price via PM. The seller can accept or deny it in a polite manner.

As for posting prices in the thread, unless you have concrete proof of market prices for which you have a link/phone no, you should not post it in the thread publicly. (another second hand sale thread is not proof).
 
A seller can always be firm on his price, there is no harm if someone suggests/requests a lower price via PM. The seller can accept or deny it in a polite manner.
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That is exactly what I am suggesting and a member can always report a pm to the mods if someone is overly rude, it is established in the TE rules not to be disrespectful to other members. :)
 
PiXeLpUsHeR said:
If the dealer is offering the item at twice the going rate, they have a right to do this, no one has to buy it, this is all about supply and demand. No one will buy a product that is priced too high and a dealer is not going to sell a product until he lowers it to a price that someone considers fair.
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I think the issue is about what price is fair.

If a friend and I walk into Croma and we see a stick of RAM priced at 1200Rs and I saw the same stick of RAM for sale at Lamington Road for 1000Rs a couple of days preisouly, I am going to pass that information on to him. Now, Croma has no right to tell me not to divulge any such information to my friend.

Continuing with that analogy, where it gets murky in the market thread is if I had lied about that 1000Rs RAM stick. (What ever may be the reason).
 
it's like bargaining... you bargain only if you want to buy..if not then leave it..

ofcourse if the product is priced above market price then it must be brought to attention but if it is not..then it's nobody's business to lowball despite of the seller mentioning the same...

simple example... do you visit every shop and suggest them market price for every product you see?? do you bargain on every product you come across?? or the only one's which interest you ?
 
Punker said:
I know sellers have right to quote price and suggestions or lowballing should be done through pm but....
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let me reframe "...still act like morons and lowball on the thread.

But instead you continued by saying this:

Punker said:
...still seller should respect members and should be polite even if their is anybody's fault because we all are here to help each other in any and every way...
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Here's the thing- this isn't tech support forum/centre that even if the user screws up, technicians call them idiots at the back of their heads and politely explain to them. This is a community. If you can't abide by the rules, what are you expecting?

and continuing on:

Punker said:
..and mods should add 1 more rule for market section that Members of TE can report to mods if price of one product is high and if MODS find it appropriate then they can suggest or tell seller to reduce his price(JUST MY SUGGESTION).
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Why? They are simply users who don't have any use for them and they sell it off- or they need money as it is the need of the hour. If price doesn't suit you, pm him and ask if he could decrease the price- if not move on. Is it really THAT difficult to follow this? Why make life @ te so lame and miserable? Why would admins and mods do this? This is a technical forum which gives awesome and priceless advice first my dear friend- deal with it. They are not "product valuers".

Please don't try to justify public lowballing by making such threads. Follow the rules and be done with it.
 
I think a market, be it anywhere, should be free. Let the seller keep the price whatever they want. It should only be between the seller and the buyer. While we definitely should have a code of conduct for the language being used here, the market should largely be free.
 
Its the buyers prerogative to ask for advice outside market threads and make informed decisions... IMO members should keep themselves out of the price discussions in the market if they have no buying interest unless its something bizarre. I agree, its very difficult to see someone getting fleeced(for ex a seller lists P4 for 10k :P )

I guess this is why we will keep having disputes.
 
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