motorola defy or samsung galaxy s2

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i know its crazy to ask products in 2 price range but i worry about buying an high end phone like s2, only to fall or cause any mechanical problems thereby the cost of repairing it.where do u see s2 2 years down the line. should i invest in midrange phone like defy now for 15000 and after 2yrs a mid range phone for 15k, by that time phones will be different from that of now and more powerful in midrange than s2
 
That is what I am doing now. Why not go for single core high end phones now like Nexus S, Galaxy S for 19k or even budget high end phones like Spice Mi-410 for 13k. Because despite S2's hardware, I do not see any major functional difference between single 1 ghz and dual cores for normal functions. Maybe for gaming and camera/video dual cores have upperhand. But I do not see significant performance gain in regular use like opening/closing apps or UI. But if you wait another 6 months to a year, more dual core phones will be released with good pricing. I believe even budgeted manufacturers can release dual cores with better prices down the line. Also we may have a possibility of seeing mid range 800 mhz dual core phones which can also be better. Oh, going with defy also is a good choice. But why not go for 1 ghz as opposed to 800 mhz moto defy.
 
Defy is the phone to go by your reasoning ..

and with custom ROMs and a little tweaking .. it can run at 1.2 Ghz stable .. Quadrant Score of 2300+.

Full CM7 port + 720p recording is expected soon for DEFY verry soon .. :)

and that phone will easily give you 6 months even under the harshest usage ..
 
What does the sgs2 offer extra that defy does not?

ask yourself that and see if the extras are worth to you.

If yes, purchase; if no, dont.

nothing worse than buying a ducati just to run it at speed limit of 60kmph. I would rather prefer a splendour and kick ass.
 
S2 is infact one of the best phones, but like madnav pointed out, you really need to ask yourself if you need that phone. For this price range, the galaxy ace is also a good buy. This comes at 13.4 K these days.
 
If u can get S2 thn why not get it now. If u keep waiting for better high end phones ,there will always b something better coming. If u purchase defy now use it say for 6 months and then get s2 there is no point. i think one can easily use s2 for 1.5 years if he gets now.
 
I think the main point to consider when buying a droid right now, is whether it'll get ICS. SGS2 is sure to be supported, defy is less likely.
 
Defy -

1. Longer life due to sturdiness of the product

2. Almost half the cost of S2

3. Support all basic functionality expected of an Android device except video chat.

3. Dev support building up which would keep the phone relevant for a long time to come.

S2

1. Product is not sturdy as compared to defy - life depends on how careful you are in handling.

2. Extra money burning hole in the pocket.

3. Absolutely want nice to have features like UOTG and front facing camera.

4. Talk of the town - would get the dev support base eventually and would be relevant for a long time to come.
 
But according to google, ICS has no specific hardware requirement. So it should be able to work on any phones that is on the market today. I think 800 mhz defy could handle ICS. But is manufacturers willing to upgrade is the big question?

But I am pretty sure big manufacturers (Moto, SE, HTC, LG, Samsung) are onboard with 18 month program that google has proposed. Support and software upgrades for 18 months from the time handset released.
 
i'm not waiting for highend phones.what i'm ssaying is rather spending 30k on s2, half the money now spend on defy and the other half is better sspend on the midrange phones after 2 years or so when the mid range phones have more features than s2
 
OP will most probably purchase another android within one year if he purchased Defy Now.

try your hands on a mainstream device. Know how things work...get comfortable.. You will understand your need in time and then you will be able to make a better move then.

Purchasing a high end phone and figuring out how things work and how he can unleash its potential 6-8months down the line is not sane. The phone will be mainstream by then and his investment would have been just for placebo without actually exploiting the hardware for what it is.

Prices fall very rapid and resorting to a parallel upgrade scheme turns out much affordable than 'one device until it wears out approach'

see my signature, I have spent 12.5k on spica.

spica to blade was free upgrade.

blade to captivate was 2k investment.

captivate to vibrant was free.

vibrant to atrix was 8-10k.

i got to use every device to it's potential.

I am not stuck with one worn out device.

I have not paid extra for warranty except for spica; as it was an initial investment thing.

My total expenditure since may 2010 (spica) turned out to be ~25k and I have included all taxes and shipping fees. And at the end I remain with a hardware as good as new and as new as the best.

If I sell atrix now.. It shall fetch me 20k. Total loss i suffer is 5k.

Now if i had invested in the Cutting edge hardware that time with bill and warranty.. I would have spent 27k for SGS that time.

It costs 20k now and will go for no more than 13-14k in best condition for one bought in may 2010.

But what would it be?

A worn hardware, near to death product. And 13-14k less from what was paid.

you do the math and choose what you really need instead of what you can afford. It is not the end of the world; you can always upgrade when you feel confident about your needs...be it 1yr down the line or just 2months. :)

uy it if you can afford it is not applicable in all situations.. unless money has no value to you.

It is applicable if the investment is a long term and the price depreciation is closer to zero % for the concerned product.

price depreciation here is closer to 50% per annum if not more..
 
Very good point @madnav. I've always wondered if it's better to go for a flagship device to use for ~2 yrs or a mainstream midrange device and upgrade every ~1 yr. Seems the latter is the better option for most people if you do it smartly.

Other thing I consider is the software, which is more important for me than the hardware itself. Now I'm running Blade with Gingerbread, so if I get a new phone, it will still be gingerbread and possibly an upgrade for Ice Cream Sandwich. So I thought I would rather wait and buy a phone that comes with Ice cream Sandwich or later.
 
after reading above posts i decided to go with midrange phone as i cant withstand depreciation of 50% or so. now the question is about which one to go for, spice mi410 or defy.

does spice mi410 feel like a brick in ur hand. is custom roms like cm7 available for spice. how is its resale value compared to defy

also how is cam quality in indoor shots for both compared to nokia5800.is it a worthy upgrade from nokia 5800
 
I havent tried spice so can not comment.

Avoid unless it is an OEM rebrand of some other known brand.

Few things to consider while buying android:

1. Is the Phone available worldwide (as it is or as another product from OEM) ?

Hardly anyone would be interested in developing a phone that is not available worldwide. Also means that you will be stuck with the issues. There will be less documentation about them over the web if it is not a widely available product.

2. Which Android version was it originally Launched?

Irrespective of what version the product maybe on at present, you sould care about what it was launched with. A manufacturer may not be interested in supporting a device for more than a handful of OS updates.

A slower product launched today with GB will have a chance of getting ICS more than a faster product launched last yeasr originally with 2.1

Eg. Spica i5700 was launched with 1.5/1.6. They supported it uptill 2.1. inferior Galaxy 3 was launched with Froyo imo. (although no news about GB so far)

This also includes the launch time. A recently launched and widely accepted product will receive more development than an older but not so popular product.

Best examples in it's time: Blade, SGS, Defy and most HTCs

The reason I said 'Most' HTCs is because HTC was stubborn on catering only mainstream and enthusiast population so far. They did not have any Entry level device uptill recent.

At 14-15k, your best bet is Defy.

at slight lower, an imported Galaxy S Vibrant T959 in 10-12k range depending upon you luck.

EDIT:

Spice i400 looks like Huawei u9000

A little larger screen and a bit faster cpu and much faster gpu.

check xda for both product.

i will do that too and update.
 
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