well said vince, the best part is the firmware updates that creative comes up which are awesome. I update my firmware nearly every month, new features, faster performance absolutely freeze free, except once at the time i bought it.
Features that blow any player, if anybody plans on mixing or playing music from a mp3 player the creative can offer a set of features that the ipod cant.
@ chaos ipod usersbility the scroll wheel is better than the touch pad maybe but once u master the art of zen as they say ur life will never be the same haha (this includes the touchpad) touch for volume increase, u go round on the scroll wheel just touch!