Since the above message flags about a potential scam with me being culprit, I am forced to share my part of the story. Generally I do not share personal chats, but I am forced to do so now to save my credibility and integrity amongst the fellow techies.
Story in short:
- OP gives the contacts of the seller to me.
- Seller insists that he will accept the payment only after shipment
- Buyer(me) inform the seller that I am busy during office hours next day and do the transfer in the evening.
- After shipping, seller consults OP, becomes panic, updates the thread, recalls package, etc, etc
Story in long(WhatsApp):
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28/09/22, 7:23 pm - Saidu Buhari: Hello Shyam..
28/09/22, 7:23 pm - Saidu Buhari: This saidu from techenclave
28/09/22, 7:23 pm - Shyam Kumar: Hey man
28/09/22, 7:23 pm - Shyam Kumar: Yeah imran said
28/09/22, 7:23 pm - Shyam Kumar: That you wanna get it
28/09/22, 7:24 pm - Saidu Buhari: That is correct. Imran passed your message that you would like to sell it for 12500/-
28/09/22, 7:24 pm - Shyam Kumar: Yeah
28/09/22, 7:24 pm - Shyam Kumar: So like if you are fine with everything
28/09/22, 7:24 pm - Shyam Kumar: We can proceed with it
28/09/22, 7:26 pm - Saidu Buhari: OK.. This will have to be shipped to Bangalore. Are you aware of it ?
28/09/22, 7:26 pm - Shyam Kumar: That was not
28/09/22, 7:26 pm - Shyam Kumar: I*
28/09/22, 7:26 pm - Saidu Buhari: Do you have a concern ?
28/09/22, 7:27 pm - Shyam Kumar: If it's shipping outside I would let you know about shipping costs
28/09/22, 7:27 pm - Shyam Kumar: Apart from the asking price
28/09/22, 7:27 pm - Saidu Buhari: OK.. YOu are in chennai ..right ?
28/09/22, 7:27 pm - Shyam Kumar: Yes
28/09/22, 7:28 pm - Saidu Buhari: Citi to Citi DTDC will be like 100/- or 150/-
28/09/22, 7:28 pm - Saidu Buhari: City to City
28/09/22, 7:28 pm - Shyam Kumar: Yeah if you are with It
28/09/22, 7:28 pm - Shyam Kumar: I can ship it no worries
28/09/22, 7:30 pm - Saidu Buhari: OK.. You cannot offer for 12K + shipping ? The reason I am asking is that I had a deal with another member for 12K(1660Ti), but he had to sell it to someone as he had pinged first, but responded later.
28/09/22, 7:30 pm - Shyam Kumar: No man
28/09/22, 7:30 pm - Shyam Kumar: I was originally asking for 13-14
28/09/22, 7:30 pm - Shyam Kumar: But 12.5 from techenclave
28/09/22, 7:30 pm - Shyam Kumar: Member
28/09/22, 7:30 pm - Shyam Kumar: So I agreed
28/09/22, 7:31 pm - Saidu Buhari: Ok.. Give me your upi id or google pay number.. I will transfer
28/09/22, 7:31 pm - Shyam Kumar: Yeah let me first ship it to you
28/09/22, 7:31 pm - Shyam Kumar: I'll do it tomorrow and send you receipts
28/09/22, 7:31 pm - Shyam Kumar: Then you can transfer
28/09/22, 7:31 pm - Shyam Kumar: Can I have your address
28/09/22, 7:31 pm - Saidu Buhari: Yes Please
28/09/22, 7:32 pm - Saidu Buhari: Saidu Buhari
XXX
28/09/22, 7:33 pm - Saidu Buhari: But I can transfer the money right away.. In tech enclave.. everything happens by trust.. so I am fine in transferring it now
28/09/22, 7:33 pm - Saidu Buhari: Also.. if it is packed.. and any DTDC nearby you, you can send it right away
28/09/22, 7:33 pm - Shyam Kumar: It's not packed need to find a box and some bubble wraps
28/09/22, 7:34 pm - Saidu Buhari: I have given my neighbours address as we are travelling on this Friday night outside. But that should not be a problem
28/09/22, 7:34 pm - Shyam Kumar: To cushion it
28/09/22, 7:34 pm - Saidu Buhari: OK.. you send tomorrow
28/09/22, 7:34 pm - Shyam Kumar: I'll send you pics of package
28/09/22, 7:34 pm - Saidu Buhari: I can transfer the money now
28/09/22, 7:34 pm - Shyam Kumar: And everything
28/09/22, 7:34 pm - Saidu Buhari: sure
28/09/22, 7:35 pm - Shyam Kumar: I would suggest you to send it tomorrow once I send and share the courier receipt, so that you'd have some confidence but I agree on the trust part just wanted to make you feel a bit at ease
28/09/22, 7:35 pm - Saidu Buhari: I have no problem.. I have bought hell a lot of things from techencalve.. no confidence problem here
28/09/22, 7:36 pm - Saidu Buhari: I leave to your comfort level
28/09/22, 7:39 pm - Shyam Kumar: Sure, which mode of courier do you prefer and also we can split 50-50 on the courier
28/09/22, 7:40 pm - Saidu Buhari: I think they have dtdc city to city.. someone send a similar pack from coimbatore last week it costed only Rs.100/-
28/09/22, 7:40 pm - Shyam Kumar: Sure I'll check DTDC and let you know on the price
28/09/22, 7:45 pm - Saidu Buhari: <Media omitted>
28/09/22, 7:45 pm - Saidu Buhari: This was the receipt
28/09/22, 7:53 pm - Shyam Kumar: Yeah sure if it's less 100 or 100 I can incur it
28/09/22, 7:53 pm - Shyam Kumar: Above it lets 50-50
28/09/22, 7:53 pm - Saidu Buhari: THat is fine.. you can ship it
28/09/22, 7:53 pm - Shyam Kumar: Let's
28/09/22, 8:08 pm - Shyam Kumar: Packed it
28/09/22, 8:09 pm - Shyam Kumar: The white envelope has invoice
28/09/22, 8:09 pm - Shyam Kumar: <Media omitted>
28/09/22, 8:09 pm - Shyam Kumar: Would again just want to confirm with you if the price for shipping is more than 150 I would like us to share it 50-50
28/09/22, 8:09 pm - Shyam Kumar: <Media omitted>
28/09/22, 8:11 pm - Shyam Kumar: <Media omitted>
28/09/22, 8:14 pm - Saidu Buhari: Ok
28/09/22, 8:15 pm - Saidu Buhari: Do not worry on courier charges..
28/09/22, 8:16 pm - Saidu Buhari: Just see if you can ship it today.. if you live in city
28/09/22, 8:16 pm - Saidu Buhari: They will send this night and reach Bangalore on friday
28/09/22, 8:17 pm - Saidu Buhari: If viable.. other wise fine
28/09/22, 8:17 pm - Shyam Kumar: I can't do this today , I'll ship it tomorrow
28/09/22, 8:17 pm - Saidu Buhari: Ok
28/09/22, 8:31 pm - Shyam Kumar: <Media omitted>
28/09/22, 8:31 pm - Shyam Kumar: <Media omitted>
28/09/22, 8:31 pm - Shyam Kumar: <Media omitted>
28/09/22, 8:31 pm - Shyam Kumar: Fyi
28/09/22, 8:31 pm - Shyam Kumar: <Media omitted>
28/09/22, 8:47 pm - Saidu Buhari: OK. go ahead
28/09/22, 8:47 pm - Saidu Buhari: Surprised that it is 1.9 KG
28/09/22, 8:48 pm - Saidu Buhari: Use standard shipment please
28/09/22, 11:03 pm - Shyam Kumar: Sure
28/09/22, 11:18 pm - Shyam Kumar: Hey I just made a mistake with measurement and cost is now 310 , let's have it 50-50
28/09/22, 11:18 pm - Shyam Kumar: <Media omitted>
28/09/22, 11:18 pm - Shyam Kumar: <Media omitted>
28/09/22, 11:18 pm - Shyam Kumar: <Media omitted>
28/09/22, 11:18 pm - Shyam Kumar: <Media omitted>
28/09/22, 11:18 pm - Shyam Kumar: <Media omitted>
28/09/22, 11:18 pm - Shyam Kumar: <Media omitted>
28/09/22, 11:18 pm - Shyam Kumar: <Media omitted>
28/09/22, 11:18 pm - Shyam Kumar: For your reference
28/09/22, 11:18 pm - Shyam Kumar: I'm going to ship it tomorrow
28/09/22, 11:27 pm - Shyam Kumar: can you send your email_id the dtdc requires it
29/09/22, 12:19 am - Saidu Buhari:
xxxx@gmail.com
29/09/22, 12:19 am - Saidu Buhari: ok
29/09/22, 12:23 am - Saidu Buhari: I am going for my Son's admission to Amrita university tomorrow
29/09/22, 12:23 am - Saidu Buhari: I will be there from 10:00 - 6:00
29/09/22, 12:24 am - Saidu Buhari: If I have an access to mobile, I will transfer in between..
29/09/22, 12:24 am - Saidu Buhari: If not, do not panic
29/09/22, 12:24 am - Saidu Buhari: you can trust me
29/09/22, 12:24 am - Saidu Buhari: The moment, I am out of the college .. I will pay
29/09/22, 12:24 am - Saidu Buhari: or if you want it before.. I can do now
29/09/22, 12:26 am - Saidu Buhari: Also.. send me the invoice to my email id
29/09/22, 9:57 am - Shyam Kumar: Sure
29/09/22, 9:57 am - Shyam Kumar: I'm at DTDC once I ship it I'll send you information
29/09/22, 10:04 am - Saidu Buhari: Ok
29/09/22, 10:14 am - Shyam Kumar: <Media omitted>
29/09/22, 10:14 am - Shyam Kumar: <Media omitted>
29/09/22, 10:15 am - Shyam Kumar: I'll send both invoices to your mail too
29/09/22, 10:23 am - Shyam Kumar: <Media omitted>
29/09/22, 10:23 am - Shyam Kumar: Shipment cost is 300 let's split 50-50
29/09/22, 10:23 am - Shyam Kumar: So, 12,650
29/09/22, 10:25 am - Shyam Kumar: Sure this works
29/09/22, 10:26 am - Shyam Kumar: You can transfer using either using my mobile number 9xxxxxxxxx or yyyyy@okhdfcbank
29/09/22, 10:26 am - Saidu Buhari: Ok
29/09/22, 10:26 am - Saidu Buhari: Doing gpay
29/09/22, 10:29 am - Shyam Kumar: <Media omitted> [ Transfer failed as the receiving bank declined incoming funds]
29/09/22, 10:30 am - Saidu Buhari: Can you send bank account details?
29/09/22, 10:30 am - Saidu Buhari: I can do only in the evening
29/09/22, 10:31 am - Saidu Buhari: In orientation program now
29/09/22, 10:31 am - Saidu Buhari: Or some can try later
29/09/22, 10:31 am - Shyam Kumar: Sure
29/09/22, 10:33 am - Saidu Buhari: It will not work on Citi bank
29/09/22, 10:33 am - Saidu Buhari: Do you hav UPI for any other account..
29/09/22, 10:33 am - Saidu Buhari: That bank is a racist bank
29/09/22, 10:34 am - Shyam Kumar: HDFC I have
29/09/22, 10:34 am - Saidu Buhari: Any transaction with name Mohamed..it will flag as risky transaction
29/09/22, 10:34 am - Saidu Buhari: I had Citi bank account.. i closed it
29/09/22, 10:34 am - Shyam Kumar: Ah okay
29/09/22, 10:34 am - Saidu Buhari: HDFC UPI id please.
29/09/22, 10:35 am - Shyam Kumar: . This my hdfc
29/09/22, 10:38 am - Saidu Buhari: Ok..let me give a try
29/09/22, 10:40 am - Saidu Buhari: It is mapping to same account
29/09/22, 10:40 am - Shyam Kumar: Ok then I'll give my bank details for hdfc
29/09/22, 10:40 am - Saidu Buhari: Ok
29/09/22, 10:40 am - Shyam Kumar: NEFT should be possible I guess
29/09/22, 10:40 am - Shyam Kumar: Please give me like 5 mins
29/09/22, 10:41 am - Shyam Kumar: I'll fetch it
29/09/22, 10:43 am - Saidu Buhari: Sure..i will transfer once I am back at home
29/09/22, 10:46 am - Shyam Kumar: Account Holder: xxxxx
29/09/22, 12:23 pm - Shyam Kumar: Hey man,
I didn't know this is how it works, could try to pay for it as early I have updated it in the forum as well, I was told this is not how it was supposed to happen
29/09/22, 12:24 pm - Shyam Kumar: Like they said get payment and then ship
29/09/22, 12:24 pm - Shyam Kumar: I agree you offered since I thought you'd as soon as I ship
29/09/22, 12:29 pm - Saidu Buhari: Do not worry..i will make the payment the moment I am at home.
29/09/22, 12:29 pm - Saidu Buhari: In orientation now and can step out only at 6.00
29/09/22, 12:30 pm - Saidu Buhari: If it is urgent.. i will get it transferred via onenof my friends
29/09/22, 12:30 pm - Saidu Buhari: <Media omitted>
29/09/22, 12:30 pm - Saidu Buhari: Do let me know
29/09/22, 12:38 pm - Shyam Kumar: It's fine I have recalled the package I will ship it again once the transaction happens, I didn't know this was how it was supposed to happen as it is my first time selling here
29/09/22, 12:38 pm - Shyam Kumar: Imran guided me not to do this
29/09/22, 12:39 pm - Saidu Buhari: See my feedback once before becoming panic. I am sending via friend. Please login to Google pay
29/09/22, 12:45 pm - Saidu Buhari: Hope you received payment
29/09/22, 12:49 pm - Shyam Kumar: Yes and I given the package to shop again
29/09/22, 12:50 pm - Shyam Kumar: I didn't mean to question your credibility, I didn't know how things normally operated and hence took advice from imran
29/09/22, 12:53 pm - Shyam Kumar: Consignment number : Dxxxxx
29/09/22, 12:59 pm - Saidu Buhari: But you did not had to mess up my credibility in techenclave. I am 15 years member in techenclave.
PS: I was bit down owing these developments and I took a small break from orientation to update the thread.