My Horror Story with Lynx India

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Amarbir's ass would have been kicked of this forum long ago, but some members tried to "understand him, and make him understand", i'm sure after each such post he was probably laughing his ass off at home..

I'm sure if he goes at this rate, he'l end up in a hospital or jail..

I think TE should put up a thread on the forum home page showin that Amarbir is no longer a dealer and give links to all feedback threads for good measure..
I think banning his id is another option cause people now believe his shit cause he's a "member" of te..

His shit is givin a bad name to Te..members are understanding but new and unregistered members dont really care to understand how things work around here and come under the wrong impression..
 
Has anyone read his forums...

ITS SO ARROGANT. He shows his attitude there. A guy is been asking his product and his refund for a month and a half..and still no use. and the number of excuses..

marriage..hospital..busy..renovation...dealer got it...we do this way... A LOT OF EM.

and i think this problem is solved. he sad something like.. "Dunno much what happened..anyways sending u the cabby and show me the proof that i deleted ur threads".

What a person.
 
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People should make it a point to read the policies and fine print when placing an order on an some e-com site. Even with eBay, there is certain time limit given to the seller to make ship out an item and certain time limit allowed for delivery. Its not like you make payment and expect it to be delivered to you in 3 days. Most of my eBay orders were delivered in 1~5 days, but on one occasion, the seller took 10 days (allowed by eBay terms) + asked for an extension of another week (which is up to the to the buyers discretion) and I got the product 20 days after ordering it.

If you want some order delivered to you quickly, then do take care where you order it from and their policies as well.
 
Months back, while trying to take quotes for first time from Lynx, I understood this guy is an egoistic nut. He was on TE as a dealer a that time and many vouched for him. I was wondering why this guy is so rash.

I got suspicious about buying from him wondering how he will handle warranty, after sales services, etc. in future.

The way he spoke, the way he responded, all was very annoying. Now, I found I am not alone.
 
i bought a few fans from him for my desktop and my 2x1gb ddr2 800 corsair laptop ram. his behaviour put me off and his constant stream of excuses. he did deliver the stuff within 3-4 days but talking to him over the phone made me want to bang my head on the wall. he came up with the most pathetic excuses ever. if you have so many issues and you think you are so stressed out handling your operations just dont do it.
 
BTW his MSN id is now for Supplies n sales only , tried to contact him for RMA of my mouse , and all he kept saying was send an email to maintenance @lynx crap. com, i did send an email and multiple reminders , guess what , no reply .

I think mods should make this a sticky
 
Metalspree said:
Why doesn't some one file a consumer complaint against him and $crew him up??

And the person doing that would probably get fined for wasting the courts time considering you need a valid reason and proof to file a case and win it and frankly I have yet to see at least one such case. Talking rudely with impatient customers is not a punishable crime by any standard as long as he is not going about of bounds and abusing you.

On the other had defamation is a crime and If filing cases were so simple, he too could have filed defamation suits against a lot of people. :P
 
Lord Nemesis said:
Our Policy ? Lynx - The Audio , Electronics & Computer Online Superstore In India

People should make it a point to read the policies and fine print when placing an order on an some e-com site. Even with eBay, there is certain time limit given to the seller to make ship out an item and certain time limit allowed for delivery. Its not like you make payment and expect it to be delivered to you in 3 days. Most of my eBay orders were delivered in 1~5 days, but on one occasion, the seller took 10 days (allowed by eBay terms) + asked for an extension of another week (which is up to the to the buyers discretion) and I got the product 20 days after ordering it.

If you want some order delivered to you quickly, then do take care where you order it from and their policies as well.

Ok let me get this straight, you want to say that one should forgive his personal assurances and false promises just cause his terms of service say its okie?
And you talk abt 15 days? So many ppl here hav waited months for things ordered..
I was supposed to get my headphones in 3days according to his promise and assurance.. Took well over a month for him to deliver..Again its not abt a 1k headphone but how he spoils ur mood each time you contact him when its his fault in the first place, to such a point that you want to forget you ordered something..

When you havent gone through the experience its better not to belittle other's agony by randomly finding things to support that cheat..

Metalspree said:
Why doesn't some one file a consumer complaint against him and $crew him up??

Why bother with a consumer court when you hav his personal phone number, his shop number and a hundred std booths around your house.. Everytime ur angry for watever reason, just give him a call, subscribe his email id's to choicest of sites..
Haha
 
Party Monger said:
When you havent gone through the experience its better not to belittle other's agony by randomly finding things to support that cheat..
Can someone confirm whether verbal agreements are binding in India ?
 
Party Monger said:
Ok let me get this straight, you want to say that one should forgive his personal assurances and false promises just cause his terms of service say its okie?

And you talk abt 15 days? So many ppl here hav waited months for things ordered..

I have got word of mouth assurances/promises from tonnes of dealers (including a few reputed dealers here as well) and a lot of other people as well and a majority of them never materialized. There can be any number of reasons that come in the way, where the matter is out of the persons hand. So In the first place I never take such promises seriously. If I need something urgently a word of mouth promise is the last thing I would depend on even if its from the most reputed dealer in the world.

Secondly, if the written TOS of a service provider claims a certain wait period, I would wait for that period before contacting the seller.

If a reputed dealer on eBay gives you word of mouth promise that a certain thing you need would be delivered immediately and for some reason or the other the dealer cannot keep that promise (may be he finds that the item in stock is damanged or whatever) and ships the item to you after 10 days. Is there anything you can do about it? Nothing Nada, because eBay TOS mentions a wait period of 10 days. You cannot even leave a neg feedback in such a case.

Party Monger said:
I was supposed to get my headphones in 3days according to his promise and assurance.. Took well over a month for him to deliver..Again its not abt a 1k headphone but how he spoils ur mood each time you contact him when its his fault in the first place, to such a point that you want to forget you ordered something..

Then cancel the order and get a refund/take him to court if he refuses. Its his fault if he does not follow his TOS.

Party Monger said:
When you havent gone through the experience its better not to belittle other's agony by randomly finding things to support that cheat..

I know pretty well what he is going though and I have had similar experiences myself once on eBay, once with KMD and some other times with local dealers here and Hyd though never with Amarbir.

The only time I had a word of mouth from Anarbir when I was in a pinch, he delivered. That time I had to purchase a 500GB HDD urgently and I was to leave for Hyd the next morning. This was time when 500GB and 750GB HDD were premium products and were not available in ready stock, but Amabir promised to deliver it to me the same day and he did. It turned out DOA, when I called him, he immediately sent his guy over with another HDD and swapped the DOA one. I was really happy about it, but I would not have blamed him if he had not been able to keep that promise. I would not blame any seller for not keeping a word of mouth promise either and I never did.

So essentially I am saying I don't order from someone who has a 15 day wait period mentioned in his TOS when I want it urgently and if I do, then it was me who took that risk and its my ill luck if if I do not get it quickly enough.
 
Lord Nemesis said:
I have got word of mouth assurances/promises from tonnes of dealers (including a few reputed dealers here as well) and a lot of other people as well and a majority of them never materialized. There can be any number of reasons that come in the way, where the matter is out of the persons hand. So In the first place I never take such promises seriously. If I need something urgently a word of mouth promise is the last thing I would depend on even if its from the most reputed dealer in the world.

Secondly, if the written TOS of a service provider claims a certain wait period, I would wait for that period before contacting the seller.

If a reputed dealer on eBay gives you word of mouth promise that a certain thing you need would be delivered immediately and for some reason or the other the dealer cannot keep that promise (may be he finds that the item in stock is damanged or whatever) and ships the item to you after 10 days. Is there anything you can do about it? Nothing Nada, because eBay TOS mentions a wait period of 10 days. You cannot even leave a neg feedback in such a case.

Then cancel the order and get a refund/take him to court if he refuses. Its his fault if he does not follow his TOS.

I know pretty well what he is going though and I have had similar experiences myself once on eBay, once with KMD and some other times with local dealers here and Hyd though never with Amarbir.

The only time I had a word of mouth from Anarbir when I was in a pinch, he delivered. That time I had to purchase a 500GB HDD urgently and I was to leave for Hyd the next morning. This was time when 500GB and 750GB HDD were premium products and were not available in ready stock, but Amabir promised to deliver it to me the same day and he did. It turned out DOA, when I called him, he immediately sent his guy over with another HDD and swapped the DOA one. I was really happy about it, but I would not have blamed him if he had not been able to keep that promise. I would not blame any seller for not keeping a word of mouth promise either and I never did.

So essentially I am saying I don't order from someone who has a 15 day wait period mentioned in his TOS when I want it urgently and if I do, then it was me who took that risk and its my ill luck if if I do not get it quickly enough.

its sad you are ready to defend Amarbir because your experience was good, this is what Bikey was referring to earlier as well, whenever there is a complaint thread, there are guyz like you as well who would come in and start defending the dealer saying your experience was great, try to put yourself in the shoes of the buyers and atleast try to empathize instead of saying that do not expect what the seller assures before the product is sold, more than complaining about the time he takes, its about the rude manner in which he speaks to them which bothers the buyers most........
 
^In fact if you'd put yourself in the shoes of Lord Nemesis himself, you would do the same thing as well! The kind of support you have been receiving from SMC, that's exactly how Amarbir treats Lord Nemesis and in fact he wouldn't have any complaints against Amarbir because he has treated him exceptionally well - in fact many others including me were fortunate enough to be treated well by him, initially. Not until the sad part turned later. Many delayed shipments, false promises, complaints, anger and resentment and what not.

But like you have pointed out, being rude to customers is in no way, the right way to treat them. If he does that to one of them, he sure is going to spread the news to his peers, friends and relatives - a rotten apple spoils the barrel. How true!

This becomes more of a rant thread as I see it. I'll reserve my comments for now.
 
Desecrator said:
^In fact if you'd put yourself in the shoes of Lord Nemesis himself, you would do the same thing as well! The kind of support you have been receiving from SMC, that's exactly how Amarbir treats Lord Nemesis and in fact he wouldn't have any complaints against Amarbir because he has treated him exceptionally well - in fact many others including me were fortunate enough to be treated well by him, initially. Not until the sad part turned later. Many delayed shipments, false promises, complaints, anger and resentment and what not.

But like you have pointed out, being rude to customers is in no way, the right way to treat them. If he does that to one of them, he sure is going to spread the news to his peers, friends and relatives - a rotten apple spoils the barrel. How true!

This becomes more of a rant thread as I see it. I'll reserve my comments for now.

Honestly Amarbir has been good to me even after our initial scuffle, like Nemesis I also do not expect delivery as promised, and I am ready to wait till a good reasonable amount of time, and he has delivered almost around within a period of 15 days to me for the stuff I have bought from him, but that doesnt mean I would expect and advise others to do the same thing.

About defending SMC, I would never do that if I feel they are in the wrong....
 
thebanik said:
its sad you are ready to defend Amarbir because your experience was good, this is what Bikey was referring to earlier as well, whenever there is a complaint thread, there are guyz like you as well who would come in and start defending the dealer saying your experience was great, try to put yourself in the shoes of the buyers and atleast try to empathize instead of saying that do not expect what the seller assures before the product is sold, more than complaining about the time he takes, its about the rude manner in which he speaks to them which bothers the buyers most........

If you read my post again, my post was not about defending Amarbir. I would say the same for who ever is in Amarbir's place. In fact I consider both KMD and praashant to be good dealers even though they have not been able to keep their word of mouth promises. I don't consider a word of mouth promise to be an obligation.

My points are simple,

1. Read fine print before you buy from some site. Don't cry foul later.

2. Don't order something you need urgently from a guy who has a 15 day wait period mentioned in his TOS.

3. Take word of mouth assurances with a pinch of salt. For me, an assurance of that kid simply means that the dealer is either confident of getting it/ or will try his best to get it to you in the time frame you want. It does not mean that he will definitely get it to you. A word of mouth assurance does not imply an obligation.

4. If the dealer cannot comply to his own TOS, then take definitely take whatever steps are necessary.

Lastly if anything, I am discouraging impatient people and people who need stuff urgently form dealing with dealers like Amarbir.

As I said previously I have had similar experiences. I ordered a motherboard though Arun Computers @ CTC, Hyd, the guy gave me word of mouth assurance that it would be handed to me by noon, next day as I was leaving Hyd on a trip by next day evening and don't know whether I would have enough time to collect afterward and I have to leave for Mohali immediately after returning from the trip. He could not keep that promise as the motherboard was couriered from Mumbai the same day, but got stuck at the airport due to some reason. When I called him up the next day, he told me that it would take another day as the courier got struck due to some issue. I did not blame him for not keeping his promise as I never considered it as an obligation.

thebanik said:
About defending SMC, I would never do that if I feel they are in the wrong....

Neither would I defend Amarbir or anyone else if they are in the wrong. In fact I didn't even want to post in this thread even though I noticed it earlier as people would say I am defending Amarbir, but the thing is there were mistakes from the buyers side as well that lead to this issue. So I just pointed them out.

As for Amarbir's rudeness, I guess it happens when everyday you have to tackle with rude customers and window shoppers here who think they are the kings in his world. Try being rude to a person attending to a queue at a railway station and see what happens to the people who talk to him after wards. I guess 5 years back he had a lot more patience than he has now and I still think it would be nice if he is more patient with his customers, but I also understand that he is just as human and imperfect has the people who frequent him.
 
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