Spacescreamer
Innovator
Guys,
First up, i apologize for asking such a query here. Not really my way of doing things, but i am really clueless atm. So do excuse me if this isnt very appropriate, but if you can suggest some measures.. Pls do so.
I live in flat system. The house above mine had been lying vacant since months and only 10 days back new owners moved in.
The family prior to moving in, came to my place to ask for permission regarding their balcony extension. To which i refused after few day's of deliberation. I did not wanted any alterations which would jeopardize the building's structural safety.
The owner visited again after the decision was conveyed over the phone, and was again told about the same. He had begun preparations when i stopped the construction people and phoned the owner over to my place. At the time things were amicably resolved (seemed so)
Now, after 4 days of them moving in, i noticed that kitchen ceiling in my house has developed a decent patch of water seepage. The house plans of the two houses are concurrent, so the issue was in the neighbour's kitchen. Turned out that the previous owner had got some construction done and got a pipe stretched across the length of the kitchen to shift the sink to the opposite side of the original location. This pipe seemed to have got busted now.
The family living above comprises of 4 members. 3 of them leave in the morning (Working parents, student son, and daughter being at home). So meeting the owner is not possible till about 7 pm in the evening. I called up society's plumber to take a look and be sure that this is not something which is wrong at my end. After speaking over the phone with the neighbour (who was at his office), the plumber was escorted to the house above, and he confirmed that the issue is at their end. The owner was informed about the same. His reply was that he ll look into it.
The next day, i called up the electrician from the district's electricity board, as the seepage was moving towards the installed tubelight. The electrician said that should this reach the choke, the building people will be in danger due to earthing. People above the house (the new guys) run the most risk as they can get lethal electric shocks via the taps etc. So i took him to the house and after 5-6 times of bell ringing, the girl appeared behind the crevice of the main door and she was apprised by the electrician.
We stood behind a bolted iron gate, which is ~2 feet from the main door.
The same evening i, along with a family member, went to have a personal meeting with the new owner, whose attitude had been indifferent all along. The seepage had grown threefolds by now.
His attitude was utterly shocking. The following were his 5 different replies after few minutes of arguments:
1) You didnt brought this up with the earlier owner when he was living here. Why doing this now?
2) You get this repair thing done, as you are facing issues.
3) We have just moved in, we would like to get settled a bit and then we ll look into it.
4) Is it not the society's job to get this resolved?
5) We will bring in our own plumber and he ll look into it. I cannot give you any timeframe when this ll be done.
He basically didnt wanted to get the tiled floor dug up and get the thing repaired at his own cost.
The above convo took place at 9PM
Since the seepage had increased alarmingly, i made sure that we stopped using the kitchen tubelight.
We came back to our house and i sat watching TV, thinking what to do next. After about 20 mins, the guy rings the bell and i find he has come over along with his wife.
I opened the door and politely asked them to come inside, to which both refused and said they would like to speak from outside only. I stepped out as well.
The lady started off a scathing verbal attack, accusing us of harassing their family. She raised her voice repeatedly, and went about blabbering non stop. She claimed she had a plumber inspected the scene and nothing was wrong. Upon asking from where did a plumber appeared post 9 PM and within 20 mins at that..
'From Ministry of Defence, and nothing is wrong' came the reply.
I moved back inside my house, and slammed the door shut. The lady was trying to yell again but i couldnt hear her drivel.
Next morning, upon my issue being raised at the RWA office, the supervisor and the plumber went to the neighbours who again flatly refused any inspection. Upon showing some high handedness, they allowed both people in and the owner then later changed his stance of getting thing repaired if the problem is at his end.
Later in the day, they summoned some plumber with little cement and got the soakpit sealed from the sides. (one possible cause of seepage, and least costly way of trying to fix the issue)
Now, after 4 days of the cement job, the seepage still is growing at my place. Has gone beyond the choke, and water droplets are dripping from 8 different points. Though the volume of water dripping from the point which appeared first, has gone down to half, it seems like increase in dripping points and appearance of 3 new patches can be a factor.
The plumber mentioned that it will take about 10 days for the results to show up, something which i can ill afford to wait out for. New seepage patches means that in all the probability, the soakpit job didnt work out.
It is clear that apart from being miserly and stingy, the change in tone is due to the non cooperation for the balcony extension desire of theirs. The lady seems a bit senile as she did bad mouthed me in front of one of the neighbors, and fabricated things like me + electrician behaved badly with their daughter.
Luckily, there was another guy for witness, and other neighbours know us pretty well.. I am not too concerned.
I am at a loss of options here, as their attitude is really bad, and they are available only post 7PM.
Sorry for the long write up, but suggest me ways to tackle this problem. Dont see the option to wait another week or so for getting my ceiling cured of the water seepage. I hope somebody has a good take on this whole situation and can offer a good suggestion.
First up, i apologize for asking such a query here. Not really my way of doing things, but i am really clueless atm. So do excuse me if this isnt very appropriate, but if you can suggest some measures.. Pls do so.
I live in flat system. The house above mine had been lying vacant since months and only 10 days back new owners moved in.
The family prior to moving in, came to my place to ask for permission regarding their balcony extension. To which i refused after few day's of deliberation. I did not wanted any alterations which would jeopardize the building's structural safety.
The owner visited again after the decision was conveyed over the phone, and was again told about the same. He had begun preparations when i stopped the construction people and phoned the owner over to my place. At the time things were amicably resolved (seemed so)
Now, after 4 days of them moving in, i noticed that kitchen ceiling in my house has developed a decent patch of water seepage. The house plans of the two houses are concurrent, so the issue was in the neighbour's kitchen. Turned out that the previous owner had got some construction done and got a pipe stretched across the length of the kitchen to shift the sink to the opposite side of the original location. This pipe seemed to have got busted now.
The family living above comprises of 4 members. 3 of them leave in the morning (Working parents, student son, and daughter being at home). So meeting the owner is not possible till about 7 pm in the evening. I called up society's plumber to take a look and be sure that this is not something which is wrong at my end. After speaking over the phone with the neighbour (who was at his office), the plumber was escorted to the house above, and he confirmed that the issue is at their end. The owner was informed about the same. His reply was that he ll look into it.
The next day, i called up the electrician from the district's electricity board, as the seepage was moving towards the installed tubelight. The electrician said that should this reach the choke, the building people will be in danger due to earthing. People above the house (the new guys) run the most risk as they can get lethal electric shocks via the taps etc. So i took him to the house and after 5-6 times of bell ringing, the girl appeared behind the crevice of the main door and she was apprised by the electrician.
We stood behind a bolted iron gate, which is ~2 feet from the main door.
The same evening i, along with a family member, went to have a personal meeting with the new owner, whose attitude had been indifferent all along. The seepage had grown threefolds by now.
His attitude was utterly shocking. The following were his 5 different replies after few minutes of arguments:
1) You didnt brought this up with the earlier owner when he was living here. Why doing this now?
2) You get this repair thing done, as you are facing issues.
3) We have just moved in, we would like to get settled a bit and then we ll look into it.
4) Is it not the society's job to get this resolved?
5) We will bring in our own plumber and he ll look into it. I cannot give you any timeframe when this ll be done.
He basically didnt wanted to get the tiled floor dug up and get the thing repaired at his own cost.
The above convo took place at 9PM
Since the seepage had increased alarmingly, i made sure that we stopped using the kitchen tubelight.
We came back to our house and i sat watching TV, thinking what to do next. After about 20 mins, the guy rings the bell and i find he has come over along with his wife.
I opened the door and politely asked them to come inside, to which both refused and said they would like to speak from outside only. I stepped out as well.
The lady started off a scathing verbal attack, accusing us of harassing their family. She raised her voice repeatedly, and went about blabbering non stop. She claimed she had a plumber inspected the scene and nothing was wrong. Upon asking from where did a plumber appeared post 9 PM and within 20 mins at that..
'From Ministry of Defence, and nothing is wrong' came the reply.
I moved back inside my house, and slammed the door shut. The lady was trying to yell again but i couldnt hear her drivel.
Next morning, upon my issue being raised at the RWA office, the supervisor and the plumber went to the neighbours who again flatly refused any inspection. Upon showing some high handedness, they allowed both people in and the owner then later changed his stance of getting thing repaired if the problem is at his end.
Later in the day, they summoned some plumber with little cement and got the soakpit sealed from the sides. (one possible cause of seepage, and least costly way of trying to fix the issue)
Now, after 4 days of the cement job, the seepage still is growing at my place. Has gone beyond the choke, and water droplets are dripping from 8 different points. Though the volume of water dripping from the point which appeared first, has gone down to half, it seems like increase in dripping points and appearance of 3 new patches can be a factor.
The plumber mentioned that it will take about 10 days for the results to show up, something which i can ill afford to wait out for. New seepage patches means that in all the probability, the soakpit job didnt work out.
It is clear that apart from being miserly and stingy, the change in tone is due to the non cooperation for the balcony extension desire of theirs. The lady seems a bit senile as she did bad mouthed me in front of one of the neighbors, and fabricated things like me + electrician behaved badly with their daughter.
Luckily, there was another guy for witness, and other neighbours know us pretty well.. I am not too concerned.
I am at a loss of options here, as their attitude is really bad, and they are available only post 7PM.
Sorry for the long write up, but suggest me ways to tackle this problem. Dont see the option to wait another week or so for getting my ceiling cured of the water seepage. I hope somebody has a good take on this whole situation and can offer a good suggestion.
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leave the lights on, let the entire building suffer. then start a riot.