Need ANIMATION RIG configuration, light gaming

[ALPHA17]

1.Q: What is your budget?
1 LAkh, this rig is not for me otherwise there would have been no bias against AMD.
2.Q: What is your existing hardware configuration (component name - component brand and model)

None

3.Q: Which hardware will you be keeping (component name - component brand and model)

None

4.Q: Which hardware component are you looking to buy (component name). If you have already decided on a configuration then please mention the (component brand and model) as well, this will help us in fine tuning your requirement.

Gigabyte X58A UD7
Intel Core i7 930
Corsair Dominator RAM kit 6GB or any G.Skill equal
Compatible SMPS
Nvidia Quadro Fx 3800

5.Q: Is this going to be your final configuration or you would be adding/upgrading a component in near future. If yes then please mention when and which component

None

6.Q: Where will you buy this hardware? (Online/City/TE Dealer)

Bangalore ( S P Road )

7.Q: Would you consider buying a second hand hardware from the TE market

No

8.Q: What is your intended use for this PC/hardware

VFX, Animation, Modelling basic software usage is MaYa, Z Brush, Flash, Adobe Creative Suite, 3Ds Max, Game Art software packages etc.

9.Q: Do you have any brand preference or dislike? Please name them and the reason for your preference/dislike.

No bias except no AMD no ATi

10.Q: If you will be playing games then which type of games will you be playing?

Crysis
Modern Warfare series
Battlefield Bad Company
Call of Duty series

11.Q: What is your preferred monitor resolution for gaming and normal usage

1920 x 1080 ( desktop and work and play )

12.Q: Are you looking to overclock?

No

13.Q: Which operating system do you intend to use with this configuration?

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

Try to keep the overall cost till around 90K please. Thanks in advance , any rig advices as cheaper motherboards is welcome please feel free to put in the best nd cheapest possible Intel RIGs.

 

[pegasus]

Amateur or working professional?

You need a Quadro?

And you want to play the games listed after you have bought a Quadro?

 

[ALPHA17]

Amateur or working professional?

You need a Quadro?

And you want to play the games listed after you have bought a Quadro?

No this is my friend we are both students, I have tried convincing him to get a GTX 470 and he is thinking bout a 480.

 

[l33t]

No this is my friend we are both students, I have tried convincing him to get a GTX 470 and he is thinking bout a 480.

1- You could talk him into getting 2*GTX 460 - Makes for a better deal .

2- Also if I were you I'd get a i7-950 @ 3.06Ghz @ 15k than a i7-930 @2.8GHz

3 - PSU - I think a VX 650 would hold up the stuff pretty good. Just incase you could get a TX750/Seasonic Equivalent.

4 - Tried talking him into an X6 Based rig ?

The Quadro FX3800 retails for about $830 in the US , Where are you going to procure it in India - Online / Store (Is it available on Aashirwad/Golcha/Ankit?)

No bias except no AMD no ATi

 

[F3niX]

When you tell crysis, just put a gtx480 or BETTER 2xGTX460 (1GB) into the rig

Core i7 950

9GB RAM(or 12GB)

A VX650 should do i think

 

[ALPHA17]

1- You could talk him into getting 2*GTX 460 - Makes for a better deal .

2- Also if I were you I'd get a i7-950 @ 3.06Ghz @ 15k than a i7-930 @2.8GHz

3 - PSU - I think a VX 650 would hold up the stuff pretty good. Just incase you could get a TX750/Seasonic Equivalent.

4 - Tried talking him into an X6 Based rig ?

The Quadro FX3800 retails for about $830 in the US , Where are you going to procure it in India - Online / Store (Is it available on Aashirwad/Golcha/Ankit?)

Man this friend of mine is a complete n00b and also that rabid Intel intel intel fan tried to talk sense into him keeps whining and says that they overheat ( 10 year old issue K 8 architecture ), as for graphic card managed to pan him down till GTX 470, the motherboard is down to UD3R.

People I want the entire setup including cabinet and monitor so see into that also please, if this were my rig I would have looked only towards THUBAN. Thanks again

 

[l33t]

Oke , Lets get down to the complete config , taking 2*GTX460s since I dont know much about the nVidia Quadro Performance wise , I suggest you get down to the Graphic Card section for the expert advise on it ..

HW Model Cost

Processor i7-950 / 3.06 GHz 14700

Mobo Gigabyte X58A-UD3R 13000

CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12P 3500

RAM CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB)* 7700

HDD Seagate Barracudda 1TB 7200 RPM 2800

GPU 2*Msi GTX460 1GB GDDR5 HAWK 27000

Monitor Dell UltraSharp U2311H 15000

Cabinet CM 690 II Advanced Black 6000

PSU Corsair 750TX 7000

Keyboard Logitech Basic KB 500

Mouse + Pad MX518 + Rantopad H3 Ares 2000

ODD LG GH22NS50 1000

Total 100200

I think the above would work just fine ...

The Alternatives

The Casing - You could probably get along with the HAF 922 - Makes for a good Cabby - 6k

The Cooling - Corsair H50 will be quite a good choice - 4k

The Motherboard - X58 MSi PRO-e ~ 10k Will again do good

The Mouz+Pad - DA + Rantopad H3 @ 2.6k (ex-B'lore) will be good

The GPU - 2*MSi Cyclones (768 MB) - is again an alternative - 23k

The RAM - Gskill F3-12800CL7T-6GBPI - 9.5k - You could get Heat spreaders for 1k if you are going to OC

The HDD - 1001FALS is a good choice - 5k

:cool2:

 

[ALPHA17]

Oke , Lets get down to the complete config , taking 2*GTX460s since I dont know much about the nVidia Quadro Performance wise , I suggest you get down to the Graphic Card section for the expert advise on it ..

HW Model Cost

Processor i7-950 / 3.06 GHz 14700

Mobo Gigabyte X58A-UD3R 13000

CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12P 3500

RAM CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB)* 7700

HDD Seagate Barracudda 1TB 7200 RPM 2800

GPU 2*Msi GTX460 1GB GDDR5 HAWK 27000

Monitor Dell UltraSharp U2311H 15000

Cabinet CM 690 II Advanced Black 6000

PSU Corsair 750TX 7000

Keyboard Logitech Basic KB 500

Mouse + Pad MX518 + Rantopad H3 Ares 2000

ODD LG GH22NS50 1000

Total 100200

I think the above would work just fine ...

The Alternatives

The Casing - You could probably get along with the HAF 922 - Makes for a good Cabby - 6k

The Cooling - Corsair H50 will be quite a good choice - 4k

The Motherboard - X58 MSi PRO-e ~ 10k Will again do good

The Mouz+Pad - DA + Rantopad H3 @ 2.6k (ex-B'lore) will be good

The GPU - 2*MSi Cyclones (768 MB) - is again an alternative - 23k

The RAM - Gskill F3-12800CL7T-6GBPI - 9.5k - You could get Heat spreaders for 1k if you are going to OC

The HDD - 1001FALS is a good choice - 5k

:cool2:

Thanks for the Heads up bru , I'll see whatever somehow I'll convince my doofish friend to reconsider price performance alternatives coz the Thubans are really really tempting. Rep goes to you

 

[nitant]

BTW Quadro makes a huge difference on Video software's like Adobe Premiere, Final Cut Pro etc. Dont discount that.

 

[pegasus]

OP-

Spend 1L only if you need a Quadro- don't spend the entire money by going SLi etc.

Else get some single card that's good enough for gaming at the res you will play and save some money imho.

Your friend can really be pretty ok buying a X6 1055T and some good motherboard for the same.

You may ask some guys who actually work in the 3D/animation industry and have benchmarked/used both X6 and i7 setups.

 

[ALPHA17]

Man I already mentioned this friend of me is a lame person hell bent on aquiring Intel, God bless him . I was unable to make him reconsider, point noted about SLi factor thanks

 

[toolius]

Sli is of no use when doing animation. All major software uses only the primary card.

The gtx 480 or any Fermi based card is supported by CS5 . The mercury engine has support for cuda and supports playback of upto 10 layers of effects in realtime just like quadro cards. The new 4000,5000,6000 series quadro cards are fermi with more ram.

Intel i7's are definitely the way to go for rendering.

Cheers !!

 

[l33t]

`` If you are getting a single GTX480 Just replace the 2*460s into a single 480 Without a change in the config ...

`` If quadro the case then you could cut down on some of the specs , you could get the following..

BenQ G2220~8k

Cabinet- CM430~2.5k

Cooler - Go with stock or Hyper 212+ ~2k

Get yourself a Logitech Deluxe 250PX ~600bucks (Instead of the MX518+rantopad)

El-Cheapo Chinese gaming mats ~125bucks available in SP

MSi PRO-e ~10k

This will give you about 18.5k + an additional 27k already committed on the GPU ~ 45k (Add in another 5k from the thin wind out there) - Get a Quadro / GTX480

Here's something I found in Prime ABGB's website

Leadteck FX 3800 ~ 51k

ZOTAC GeForce GTX 480-BBQ Nation ~27k

:cool2:

 

[ALPHA17]

No need I talked him out of Quadro as we are still students, but yeah thanks for the rest of the inputs

 

[pegasus]

If Intel only and buying an i7 950, please do check out the Sabertooth X58 motherboard.

http://www.techenclave.com/cpu-mobo-corner/suggest-mobo-upto-15k-175252.html

Corsair XMS3 but the 1600 kit. Give the 1333 kit a royal ignore.

Drop the TX750- get the HX750.

TX750 is a bit too dated and was never a very great PSU compared to some other siblings imho.

A bit more in price but the HX750 is a good buy imho.

The HX650 is best avoided imho- not vfm for what it may be in real mostly and the HX850 is a little more beefier in overall specs than the HX750 but much pricier.

Sli is of no use when doing animation. All major software uses only the primary card.

The gtx 480 or any Fermi based card is supported by CS5 . The mercury engine has support for cuda and supports playback of upto 10 layers of effects in realtime just like quadro cards. The new 4000,5000,6000 series quadro cards are fermi with more ram.

Intel i7's are definitely the way to go for rendering.

Cheers !!

Very good info toolius sir- thank you very much.

On the i7 part, i have heard the X6 1055T and i7 920, both OCed to 3.5Ghz, achieve similar scores in Cinebench.

At stock speeds, the X6 1055T performs little better than the i7 920 in Cinebench iirc.

Considering rendering is absolutely cpu-intensive only, the X6 1055T is very VFM then.

Plus one can use it with some good quality mobo that will be much cheaper than any X58 mobo

(though it's strongly recommended people don't act too cheap and use some mobo with beefy power phase circuitry and cooling)

 

[ALPHA17]

Thanks to all who took their time to help me out, just one small thing, the friend of mine parted ways and has completely lost his senses is going for a Quadro Fx 4800, going for UD 7, I am no longer supporting him as he is not listening to me so thanks for all the inputs once more and till next we meet, Peace be in your heart

 

[kippu]

good for him , another one bites the quadro dust