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to all buyers..just make a phone call before and after depositing the money..cos one might not check his PMs that often.
 
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Gowt1ham said:
Dude seriously.....U havent done any transaction on ebay in a while.

On Ebay

A seller cannot leave -ve feedback whatsoever to a buyer even if buyer gives u a feedback and seller is geniune.

Ebay will not remove the feedback even if its untrue(-ve or otherwise) unless there are links to other sites:S, abusive language.

ANd of course if u havent noticed......ppl bid on their own item to increase prices etc......Creating a fake ID is not tht gr8........ebay precaution is a waste.;)

And ya they will bill u outright if u list a item in auctions and say buy it now price is XXX on the listing. and other endless rules if u have card to read.

And have u called tht "free customer support"-I have for 7 days continiously and no one picked up.

And chat-tht is for decorative purpose.

And email- they will get back to u in a formatted text saying tht they will ask their seniors to look into matter.

Dont beleive me? plz do some research.:D
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I don't know what the case happened with you.

For me,i didn't see anything of the sort you mentioned.

I always contact them through chat,and they reponse was satisfactory in all cases.

yes,i agree with you reg fake bidding.

also,yes -ve feedback can be surely converted.

my case:

I purchased series of old Rs:10/- notes,but seller shipped only 1 note.

I tried to explain him in all means to make him understand but of no use.

I opened up a case in resolution center,then seller refunded my full amount +shipping charges and also beared bank charges.

I returned the item,then he started insisting me to convert -ve to +ve.

I got calls from ebay daily to convert feedback for him.

""I got my money back,but what about the mental tension i faced??,so is the -ve rating.""

they has no response for my question.

atlast -ve was converted to +ve.

the seller has got around 7 -ve feedbacks from buyers like me and in no time he managed to convert all into +ve.
 
SunnyBoi said:
errr if its unfair, maybe in your case if he -ve feedbacks you, can get it reversed by contacting mods :)
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Do mods do this? Because the rules explicitly state that the mods will not get involved with regards to changing feedback left.
dipdude said:
7. If i get negative rating can i demand it to be taken back -

Nope you cannot with respect to staff. Once you get rated we(staff) would never change it for whatsoever reason. Only exception would be when for some reason both the buyer and seller agree that issues have been sorted out and they are at peace with each other and given the new developments the rating sounds unfair.

In such a scenario the ratings would be reverted or changed. But remember you can only get 'One rating Per month 'reverted.

Also, members being rated negatively are free to rate/reply the person back. Also, you are free to PM the person or even start a thread on the same in discussions section explaining why you think he was being unfair.

Note: Please do not rate someone in haste, if you want to rate someone in the negative - please consider PM/IM/EM'ng the person and getting his explanation - if that explanation does not satisfy you, then you can rate him.
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At last i received the refunds.( at loss of bank charges and being annoyed)

But i am badly disappointed for missing the item.

left -ve feedback.

@ Ganesh_2218,

I have given 7 reasons for leaving -ve feedback.

If you have anything to defend,Leave your comment in this thread.

I will remove the feedback if i you have valid reasons.

Thanks for all the mods for looking into this issue.
 
This sames to be fair enough Hunter.

Where is the seller, He should come and explain everyone as why the hell he has not weighted a man's word.

Money is definitely important but at the same time, human value moral and emotions should also be valued.
 
This person had low balled me several times for the product i sold and he said he will make an payment and told that he has enough funds and had done an transfer and said to ship the product and later denies will make an transfer tomorrow. I had refunded his full money in 4 days and he had given me an negative feedback without buying the actual product. Would any TE member would do this kind of foolish ackward job . I couldn't sell it to an member like this person who is asking for an dead cheap price nor making an payment very late. I have sold this product to another TE member.

I would like the TE Admin to remove the negative feedback given to me. I seriously had bad experience with this felony.
 
This person had sent an negative feedback with several harsh words. I have refunded his full money. He had said that he will send me an Screen shot proof of the NEFT transfer so that i could have hold this PSU to him but he never sent me the Screenshot of the transfer.
 
ganesh_2218 said:
This person had low balled me several times for the product i sold and he said he will make an payment and told that he has enough funds and had done an transfer and said to ship the product and later denies will make an transfer tomorrow.
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LIE.

I never said i had made payment,I said i will make payment and send you the screen-shot as a proof.

Anyways i made payment the same day to make you comfortable and be assured of the deal.

I explained this before,now one more time so that u will clearly understand.

ganesh_2218 said:
I had refunded his full money in 4 days and he had given me an negative feedback without buying the actual product.

Would any TE member would do this kind of foolish ackward job . I couldn't sell it to an member like this person who is asking for an dead cheap price nor making an payment very late. I have sold this product to another TE member.

I would like the TE Admin to remove the negative feedback given to me. I seriously had bad experience with this felony.
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How can you say deal has not happened.

You agreed for the price i quoted(No one is keeping gun at you to agree).

You given a/c details for me to make payment.

I had made payment and you are supposed to ship me the item.

doesn't the above things come under sale process?

Because you shipped the item to some one doesn't mean sale didn't happen.

After payment denied to ship.

you didn't intimate earlier.

lowballing is not against rules,i am tight on my budget and asked for the lesser price.

it's upto you to sell or not for the price.

The only reason you didn't ship to me is the other person has agreed to pay more.

isn't this cheating?

You passed lame statements instead of trying to convince me for causing me trouble.

not even in this particular moment too.

More over you reported admin to Infract me and take severe action.

You refunded me only the amount that was credited.

who will bear the bank charges?

ok leave it that is small amount.

but what about the agony you caused to me?

Why did it take 4 days to refund my amount when you are in a position,not wait for at-least 6 hours to receive the payment?

Why did you insist me to buy a new PSU by paying extra amount to you?

who are you to decide what to buy and what not to buy?

If i am ready to afford extra bucks,I can buy locally,why from you?

Why did you insist for MO instead of transferring me right into my account.

Chennai is Metro and you have access to all the major banks.

Any special reason to send via MO?

How many times i asked about refunding my money back?

why was the reply lacking when you were online?
 
ganesh_2218 said:
I had refunded his full money in 4 days and he had given me an negative feedback without buying the actual product.
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Just a subjective opinion from my side.

If you agree that you talked to him, agreed on a certain amount (what ever it may be) to be payed to you and he has made a payment before you informed him that the item was sold to someone else, then by all means a sale has taken place from he side of Tech Hunter and he has every right to leave feedback for you as per his experience.

On the other hand, if you have not shipped the item to him or choose to sell it to someone else (which I agree you have every right to do) then no sale has happened between you and Tech Hunter from your side and you cannot/should not leave him feedback. Had you waited for him with the intention of honoring your deal, and he kept you waiting for unreasonable amounts of time, then would have had the right to leave him neg feedback even if the sale did not take place in the end.

As for your accusation of the buyer low balling, you could have simply refused a deal in the first place. It was "your" choice and no one forced you to. However if you can show proof that the buyer lied to you about already making the payment before he did and the buyer cannot disprove it, then by all means you can ask the mods to remove your neg rep.
 
A Negative feedback will be exchanged to this Low baller in 2 days if the negative feedback left to me is not lifted up. I had refunded his full money and still this lowballer made me -ve feedback. Where in the hell i can go say this...

At one instance i told him i will buy an new PSU with half of my cash but this person had refused to accept the offer i gave him and last waited for the refund of cash and so soon he made -ve feedback.
 
ganesh_2218 said:
If you don't remove the negative feedback in 2 days time i will again give you the same -ve feedback , see that i have refunded the full money.
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Don't give me a Damn!

If you have anything to defend,you have every right.

Don't use abusive language and warnings.

And this is the way you were talking to me right from begning that provoked to leave -ve feedback.

Stop all this fuss.
 
ganesh_2218 said:
At one instance i told him i will buy an new PSU with half of my cash but this person had refused to accept the offer i gave him and last waited for the refund of cash and so soon he made -ve feedback.
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LIE.

Don't leave comments without proof.

Ok it's not too late,now i am offering even more money.

I will pay you Rs:950/-,300 bucks extra than what i paid you earlier.

Get me a new one.
 
:S it appears from the posts that first ganesh had agreed to sell psu to hunter at the price he asked , he asked ganesh to wait a day , but he paid same day but ganesh changed mind as someone else was ready at ganesh's quoted price , so ganesh sold to other buyer .

seller should not give acc details to second buyer if one has agreed even if other offers more until first buyer has been told that properly that seller is selling to someone else.
 
ganesh_2218 said:
A Negative feedback will be exchanged to this Low baller in 2 days if the negative feedback left to me is not lifted up. I had refunded his full money and still this lowballer made me -ve feedback. Where in the hell i can go say this...
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The way I see it, you had settled for a deal (at a lower price?) with Tech Hunter and after that found someone who would go with your original price and settled with that person instead. I'm sorry to say, but that is unethical. At the very least you should've backed out from TH and then proceeded with the other person.

Unless you can prove otherwise, the -ve rating stays.

Do note that retaliatory -ve ratings will not be tolerated.
 
^^^Good. Ethics cannot be converted to rules and it's nice to see Mods being proactive.

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@ ? mark below, I'm not passing judgement here, but I agree with Crazy_Eddy here. The whole market business here on TE is based on trust and the ethics of the persons involved. Money doesn't even come into factor, atleast for me. I've had shipments from sellers delayed, items have been delivered damaged or the product didn't work exactly as specified but I never had to talk about it in the open. You know why? Cos I always trusted the persons involved and we worked it out. A cheat is a cheat, doesn't matter if he robbed you or just lied to you. Mind you, I'm not saying Ganesh is lying here. I'm agreeing with what Crazy_Eddy posted:

Unless you can prove otherwise,
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TE doesn't have any buyer/ seller protection other than the ratings on iTrust. Lost trust=-ve rating. Nothing more, nothing less. I hope I have clarified the question you had about my statement to your satisfaction. Harsh punishment indeed :no:! Can't you see it's the only safe guard we have!
 
^^?In this thing both guys can have some mutual understanding. I think negative ratings is like a spot on sellers image which cannot be erased, so that should be given carefully. If ganesh has not refunded the amount to buyer he is a owner of -ve rating. In this ganesh can explain the buyer with a simple language and I know true never dies, but ganesh did a mistake tough i think -ve rating is very big punishment for this. Buyer can see this in other way and make some justice though both are good traders and no use playing rating games, things which are avoided.
 
Well It happened with me also with some hdd deal few years ago. I sent the money and after 2 days selling person said my friend was crying so he sell it to him. as he was emotionally saying things thats why. then he refunded my money within 1 day. its ok man things happened and another thing its not a terms and condition market with big time rules. This is casual fs and wtb thing. so bare with it.
 
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