PC Peripherals Need PC for around 45k , for Watching HD Blu Ray Movies

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ajith_12

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Q: What is your budget?
Around 45k

Q: What is your existing hardware configuration
planning to buy a new one

Q: Which hardware component are you looking to buy (component name).
Intel C2D E8400
Intel DP45SG
4GB DDR2 RAM
ATI Saphire Radeon HD4670
500GB HDD
LG DVDRW
Corsair VX 450W PSU
Cooler master cabinet
Logitech Key Board and Mouse
Monitor - a 22" inch one - would prefer Samsung or DELL
Sound Card - No idea on this :S
Speakers - a 2.1 Speakers which would save space but effective as a any 5.1
1.Is the PSU Ok with this Graphics Card ?

2.Will there be any problem if this PC is used for very long hours ( will be up most of the time downloading , sometimes all through the day :ohyeah:) .. i mean the temperature and noise levels with the GPU , should i get any additional fans ?

3.Please suggest sound card , speakers and monitor

4.what willl be the price of the above components , will it be in 45 - 50 k
Can downgrade/replace with any components that would be suffice for my purpose

Please Suggest...Thanks
 
Srirama said:
check the prices here at itwares.com,it would give you a reasonable estimate..
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Thank YOU , the site seems to be down . Anyways i want to know about my other queries -

1.Is the PSU Ok with this Graphics Card ?

2.Will there be any problem if this PC is used for very long hours ( will be up most of the time downloading , sometimes all through the day ) .. i mean the temperature and noise levels with the GPU , should i get any additional fans ?

3.Please suggest sound card , speakers and monitor
 
Proccy- AMD AthlonII X2 240 - 2.9k
M/B- Gigabyte 785GMT-UD2 - 5.9k (Has a very good IGP(HD 4200) capable of handling HD videos with eaze)
Ram- Transcend/Corsair 2GB 800MHz DDRIII -2.6k
HDD- Seagate 1TB 7200.12 SATA 3.5" -3.9k
Monitor- Samsung 2233 22"- 9k
Cabinet- Zebronics Bijili cabby w/o SMPS - 1.1k
PSU - Zebronics Pro 350w -1.5k
Optical Drive- any DVDRW- 1.1k
Speakers - Altec Lansing VS4121 - 2.9k
Micorsoft/Logitech combo - 0.7k
Total: 30-31k :ohyeah:
For playing Blue ray videos the HD4200 will do. Plus i have suggested you a AM3, DDRIII mobo which is a bit future proof than the LGA775. You dont need a GPUfor your needs. If you insist on one a ATI HD4350 -2k will do. Plus the Zebronics Pro 350w will handle even the HD4670 with ease. As you plan to run the system for long hours for downloading better stick to a dual core+IGP instead of a GPU(which you do not need for your purpose) as it will consume more power.
 
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proccy. Intel Core i5 750 - 10.5k

M/B.Gigabyte P55 UD2 - 7k

Ram. Corsair 2GB DDR3 - 2.5k approx

HDD. Seagate 500GB 7200.12 - 2.5k

GPU. ATI Radeon HD5770 -11k

Optical Drive. Sony DVDRW - 1.2k

PSU. Corsair VX450 - 4k

Case. Coolermaster Elite334 -2.1k

Monitor. Benq T2200HD - 8k

Mouse+Keyboard-Logitech Combo - 0.7k

Total 49.5k.

better spend a Bit more & get the latest core i5 But,if you want something strictly in your Budget then..

Proccy- Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q9400 -9.5k

M/B- Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L -2.4k

Ram- Corsair CM2X2048-6400 2*2GB -4.1k

GPU-Sapphire HD 5750 1GB -9k

HDD- WDC 500GB SATA 3.5" -4k

Cabinet-Coolermaster Elite 335 - 2.1k

PSU- Corsair VX450 - 4k

Optical Drive- any DVDRW- 1.1k

Monitor-Benq 22" E2220HD LCD -8.2k

K/B & Mouse- Logitech Combo- 0.7k

Total - 45.1k
 
proccy. Intel Core i5 750 - 10.5k

M/B.Gigabyte P55 UD2 - 7k

Ram. Corsair 2GB DDR3 - 2.5k approx

HDD. Seagate 500GB 7200.12 - 2.5k

GPU. ATI Radeon HD5770 -11k

Optical Drive. Sony DVDRW - 1.2k

PSU. Corsair VX450 - 4k

Case. Coolermaster Elite334 -2.1k

Monitor. Benq T2200HD - 8k

Mouse+Keyboard-Logitech Combo - 0.7k

Total 49.5k.

better spend a Bit more & get the latest core i5 But,if you want something strictly in your Budget then..

Proccy- Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q9400 -9.5k

M/B- Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L -2.4k

Ram- Corsair CM2X2048-6400 2*2GB -4.1k

GPU-Sapphire HD 5750 1GB -9k

HDD- WDC 500GB SATA 3.5" -4k

Cabinet-Coolermaster Elite 335 - 2.1k

PSU- Corsair VX450 - 4k

Optical Drive- any DVDRW- 1.1k

Monitor-Benq 22" E2220HD LCD -8.2k

K/B & Mouse- Logitech Combo- 0.7k

Total - 45.1k

OOps Sorry..

Mods Please Delete this post..
 
Karthi007 said:
Proccy- AMD AthlonII X2 240 - 2.9k
M/B- Gigabyte 785GMT-UD2 - 5.9k (Has a very good IGP(HD 4200) capable of handling HD videos with eaze)
Ram- Transcend/Corsair 2GB 800MHz DDRIII -2.6k
HDD- Seagate 1TB 7200.12 SATA 3.5" -3.9k
Monitor- Samsung 2233 22"- 9k
Cabinet- Zebronics Bijili cabby w/o SMPS - 1.1k
PSU - Zebronics Pro 350w -1.5k
Optical Drive- any DVDRW- 1.1k
Speakers - Altec Lansing VS4121 - 2.9k
Micorsoft/Logitech combo - 0.7k
Total: 30-31k :ohyeah:
For playing Blue ray videos the HD4200 will do. Plus i have suggested you a AM3, DDRIII mobo which is a bit future proof than the LGA775. You dont need a GPUfor your needs. If you insist on one a ATI HD4350 -2k will do. Plus the Zebronics Pro 350w will handle even the HD4670 with ease. As you plan to run the system for long hours for downloading better stick to a dual core+IGP instead of a GPU(which you do not need for your purpose) as it will consume more power.
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Excellent config. Would change to an nVidia 8200/8300 chipset motherboard though, as it will provide full LPCM over HDMI, for DTS HD-MA, and Dolby TrueHD. The 785G can only pass the DTS and DD core tracks, not the lossless ones.
 
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Excellent config. Would change to an nVidia 8200/8300 chipset motherboard though, as it will provide full LPCM over HDMI, for DTS HD-MA, and Dolby TrueHD. The 785G can only pass the DTS and DD core tracks, not the lossless ones.
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It supports only 8channel LPCM @16bit 48KHz over HDMI not TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio (@24bit 48KHz) formats. LPCM is a slightly downgraded version of the DTS_HD\TrueHD, but this will be far superior than DTS\DD. You can use this MB till you procure a true bitstreaming SC\GC. Only Xonar HDAV 1.3/Slim or graphic cards like ATI 5700 series or nVidia 9xxx series (not sure the exact one) support these formats along with the compatible software, not all. eg: PowerDVD9

@Ajith, For an HTPC, a basic dual core processor with a 2x1gb ram with an onboard graphics is more than enough. For future proofing (the word itself is a myth in this industry) you can spend a little bit more on processor, but not much. You will hardly get any boost in Audio-Video performance (HTPC use) on going for a high end m/c unless you are a hard core gamer. For audio, try a good professional\audiophile series sound card, Xonar STX/EMU0404 (external) or a dedicated DAC route for music. For getting a decent quality SC for movies and music you can try Xonar D2X\DX or something similar from MAudio. If you are having an HT AVR which can decode DTS-HD/TrueHD try with Auzentech HD/Xonar HDAV/get a good graphics card (can get good video and audio performance at a cost) which i mentioned above. Moreover this rig will cater your normal pc use (not sure abut your exact purpose). This will cost you just above the half of your budget and reserve it for storage space. Spend wisely...
 
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Excellent config by karthi007. But to maximize your viewing pleasure, get a 32" LCD for around 30K. The remaining PC components should fit in 15k.
 
cmsajith said:
It supports only 8channel LPCM @16bit 48KHz over HDMI not TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio (@24bit 48KHz) formats. LPCM is a slightly downgraded version of the DTS_HD\TrueHD, but this will be far superior than DTS\DD. You can use this MB till you procure a true bitstreaming SC\GC. Only Xonar HDAV 1.3/Slim or graphic cards like ATI 5700 series or nVidia 9xxx series (not sure the exact one) support these formats along with the compatible software, not all. eg: PowerDVD9

........Moreover this rig will cater your normal pc use (not sure abut your exact purpose).
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For a lossless lpcm(with 8200/8300 nVidia) i need to connect CPU/Monitor through HDMI . Right ?

Is it like i can watch these movies only if my CPU/Monitor are connected through a HDMI or a DVI/VGA cable will do? :huh:

Which is a good mobo for the 8200/8300 nVidia and is 9300/9400 any better , Should be able to add a highend procy/gc or other components on this mobo in future ( read that this ones are mATX , so space crunch)

The puropose as i said , its pretty much day to day work , downloading and watching hd movies and would be using for long hrs

Thank you folks for chipping in :hap5:
 
ajith_12 said:
For a lossless lpcm(with 8200/8300 nVidia) i need to connect CPU/Monitor through HDMI . Right ?

Is it like i can watch these movies only if my CPU/Monitor are connected through a HDMI or a DVI/VGA cable will do? :huh:

Which is a good mobo for the 8200/8300 nVidia and is 9300/9400 any better , Should be able to add a highend procy/gc or other components on this mobo in future ( read that this ones are mATX , so space crunch)

The puropose as i said , its pretty much day to day work , downloading and watching hd movies and would be using for long hrs

Thank you folks for chipping in :hap5:
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An HDMI port can carry both audio and video in digital format. If you are connecting the HDMI to the display, then the display should be capable of decoding it (Normally LCD TVs can do 2channel decoding and some high end TVs can do PCM to 5.1 DD). Normally a monitor will decode only video, unless it is having speakers, even though if it does, the maximum will be a 2 channel audio, but i doubt the capability for decoding pcm/lpcm. For audio you need to have a separate decoder commercially available as AVRs / Cinema processors.

So following are the options in SQ hierarchy:

- If you have an AVR with HDMI-IN with decoders for LPCM, then the path will be PC HDMI-OUT in LPCM\PCM > AVR HDMI-IN > Monitor HDMI-IN (from AVR HDMI-OUT for video)

- If you have an AVR with Optical/Coaxial in, then the path will be PC Optical\Coaxial out in PCM, can carry only upto DTS/DD > AVR for audio and PC HDMI\DVI\VGA out > Monitor for video

- PC Onboard analog audio > Any multichannel amp with analog in for audio and PC HDMI\DVI\VGA out > Monitor for video
 
cmsajith said:
It supports only 8channel LPCM @16bit 48KHz over HDMI not TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio (@24bit 48KHz) formats. LPCM is a slightly downgraded version of the DTS_HD\TrueHD, but this will be far superior than DTS\DD. You can use this MB till you procure a true bitstreaming SC\GC. Only Xonar HDAV 1.3/Slim or graphic cards like ATI 5700 series or nVidia 9xxx series (not sure the exact one) support these formats along with the compatible software, not all. eg: PowerDVD9
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Stop right there. Think of the DD TrueHD stream as a zip file. Bitstreaming allows the receiver to unzip it, while LPCM allows the unzipping to be done on the card itself. It is exactly the same data!
 
TechHead said:
Stop right there. Think of the DD TrueHD stream as a zip file. Bitstreaming allows the receiver to unzip it, while LPCM allows the unzipping to be done on the card itself. It is exactly the same data!
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Sorry, TechHead, I cannot agree, coz' both are different. Google to find the difference. There are lot of articles about LPCM and bitstreaming. How much a human ear can distinguish b/n them is debatable. Bitsteaming requires HDCP(PAP and PVP) compliance in all the devices used in the chain and LPCM is a short cut method used to bypass the HDCP (PAP and PVP) used in the BluRay data by decoding and encoding it again in LPCM format (by the software w/o PAP and PVP) at the cost of SQ. All these are because of copyright issues..
 
Karthi007 said:
Proccy- AMD AthlonII X2 240 - 2.9k
M/B- Gigabyte 785GMT-UD2 - 5.9k (Has a very good IGP(HD 4200) capable of handling HD videos with eaze)
Ram- Transcend/Corsair 2GB 800MHz DDRIII -2.6k
HDD- Seagate 1TB 7200.12 SATA 3.5" -3.9k
Monitor- Samsung 2233 22"- 9k
Cabinet- Zebronics Bijili cabby w/o SMPS - 1.1k
PSU - Zebronics Pro 350w -1.5k
Optical Drive- any DVDRW- 1.1k
Speakers - Altec Lansing VS4121 - 2.9k
Micorsoft/Logitech combo - 0.7k
Total: 30-31k :ohyeah:
For playing Blue ray videos the HD4200 will do. Plus i have suggested you a AM3, DDRIII mobo which is a bit future proof than the LGA775. You dont need a GPUfor your needs. If you insist on one a ATI HD4350 -2k will do. Plus the Zebronics Pro 350w will handle even the HD4670 with ease. As you plan to run the system for long hours for downloading better stick to a dual core+IGP instead of a GPU(which you do not need for your purpose) as it will consume more power.
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will i be able to add HD5XXX series and Auzentech Releases X-Fi HomeTheater HD Sound Card on this Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H mobo ( in future ) . since its a microATX , is there any ATX equivalent for this mobo with IGP that would do the job
 
ajith_12 said:
will i be able to add HD5XXX series and Auzentech Releases X-Fi HomeTheater HD Sound Card on this Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H mobo ( in future ) . since its a microATX , is there any ATX equivalent for this mobo with IGP that would do the job
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GIGABYTE - Product - Motherboard - Specification - GA-MA785GMT-UD2H (rev. 1.0)
Check the specs. It has a PCI-E 2.0 slot and also a PCI lot. So adding a GPU and Sound card will not be a problem i guess. Most of the 785G boards are micro ATX form factor. Gigabyte has only one 785G model listed on its site. Guess most manufacturers have only few models of 785G as it is relatively new.
 
cmsajith said:
Sorry, TechHead, I cannot agree, coz' both are different. Google to find the difference. There are lot of articles about LPCM and bitstreaming. How much a human ear can distinguish b/n them is debatable. Bitsteaming requires HDCP(PAP and PVP) compliance in all the devices used in the chain and LPCM is a short cut method used to bypass the HDCP (PAP and PVP) used in the BluRay data by decoding and encoding it again in LPCM format (by the software w/o PAP and PVP) at the cost of SQ. All these are because of copyright issues..
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BR has audio in either DD:True HD, DTS:MA or uncompressed LPCM. There is no "encoding it again in LPCM format", as lpcm is the raw uncompressed data. DTS:MA has lossless compression using the meridian lossless audio format. Not sure about DD:THD.
 
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BR has audio in either DD:True HD, DTS:MA or uncompressed LPCM. There is no "encoding it again in LPCM format", as lpcm is the raw uncompressed data. DTS:MA has lossless compression using the meridian lossless audio format. Not sure about DD:THD.
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My bad, sorry for the confusion. What i meant was that the raw LPCM itself will undergo a decoding and encoding while playing from a PC (in previous versions of PowerDVD). Eventhough the o/p is LPCM, its not the original LPCM from the disk. The s/w will decode the 24bit 48KHz LPCM and downsample to 16bit 48KHz (the sampling rate of DTS/DD) and encode it again to LPCM format. Hope i made it clear.

Anyways DTS-HD,DD-TrueHD and LPCM are different in SQ.
 
Corsair VX450 – great choice

ATI HD4670 – Get the 4770 instead. Nice improvements for a marginal price increase.

All else looks fine except why Intel now? Intel has got a huge no. of sockets in the market which aren’t compatible with each other, forget future proofing. And AMD gives the best VFM. Also, the Q8400 is doesn’t support VT. For just VT you pay another 2k extra on the next higher processor, whereas on the AMD side, you pay nothing for Virtualization support. It comes on all AMD procs. I’d suggest the AMD Athlon II X4 630/620 on a 785G chipset. Best VFM Quad. Or even the Phenom II X3 720 BE. A Monster of a proc.
 
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