Nintendo Wii in India

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Has Nintendo opened a single office in India? Have any advertisements for Wii aired in India? Can you find the games for Wii in masses like X360 and Ps2?

No. Wii has not, probably never will be launched in India. Nintendo never considered India is a market, this country still has some work to do (mainly, lowering sales pf pirated software and increasing sales of original) to get the big companies to notice us.
 
Params7 said:
Has Nintendo opened a single office in India? Have any advertisements for Wii aired in India? Can you find the games for Wii in masses like X360 and Ps2?

No. Wii has not, probably never will be launched in India. Nintendo never considered India is a market, this country still has some work to do (mainly, lowering sales pf pirated software and increasing sales of original) to get the big companies to notice us.

i Agree wid u
 
No. Wii has not, probably never will be launched in India. Nintendo never considered India is a market, this country still has some work to do (mainly, lowering sales pf pirated software and increasing sales of original) to get the big companies to notice us.

nopes, the big companies (most already have) need to notice that there is a huge market here, which just needs to be tapped properly....Not by releasing outdated titles at ( $ price X exch. rate) + addl premium
 
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superczar said:
nopes, the big companies (most already have) need to notice that there is a huge market here, which just needs to be tapped properly....Not by releasing outdated titles at ( $ price X exch. rate) + addl premium

Totally agree with you, how can big companies remove piracy if they dont sell original titles, how do they expect online gaming to pick up? I think all games should be easily available for Rs.999 per title. Only than we would have a viable market.
 
Unlike Hardware pricing, it's easier to set regional pricing based on purchase power parity for software (like it's done for books..academic as well as non-academic fiction/non-fiction)

a middle class guy in the US earning $5000 net a month, i don't mind paying $50 for a game title all that much(1/100 of his income)

The same middle class guy earning INR 50,000 a month would definitley mind paying 2500/- for the same game (1/20 of his income) and so the guy turns towards picking up pirated titles...

a $ 50 game should ideally cost ~500-600/- here...and had that been the case, piracy woould go down drastically...and not just for games...

Take a look at the market for books in India...it's only a fringe of the population that buys pirated copies

Compare it to the software market, LOL, only a fringe buys genuine...

Replicate the book pricing model for software, and you get rid of piracy (almost!)
 
why would I even think of paying 500 bux when I can download the same game or book for FREE :P

if original was 100-200 hundred bux then only I would THINK of buying it :P
 
^^ You wont buy it... its ok. But folks would buy it who want to play online. Tell me, do you read novels. Do you goto a bookstore and buy a novel for 300 Rs, or do you buy it from a stoplight for a guy selling the photocopied version for Rs.50. Its the same novel, but you still go to the store right. As the price disparity is not as much. Same logic applies, when you buy original game, you can play online, you can download all the patches, and you know for sure it works, as opposed to pirated games.
 
After the poor sales of the X360 so far In India. I'm starting to wonder whether India is ready to be part of the gaming scene.
 
Poor sales? I thought M$ stated that X360 was bringing in good numbers in India!

Though there have been some good ideas in this thread. Software needs to come down here and in good pricing. Rs.2500 for X360 titles is fair enough in my opinion considering that the avg price of X360 in the United States is 55$.

I'm starting to wonder whether India is ready to be part of the gaming scene.

IMO, India has a lot of potential. Consoles don't have official integration and proper support, but look how PC gaming has picked up in this country. It just needs to be tapped properly. If SEGA and M$ did see enough value in India to officially release their consoles, there is something here.

Also, piracy destroys the market nonetheless. It really doesn't matter if someone buys a pirated copy of a game if he has to mortgage his car for an original title, but those who can, should buy original titles. From what I get in my monthly allowance, I can order 2-3 Original titles, and so I only buy original games when it comes to my PSP, and I'm planning to go all original with the Ps3 as well. In the end, its really worth it. You know you're supporting the people who made the game, not killing them, and that makes the game even more enjoyable.
 
techcheat said:
Tell me, do you read novels. Do you goto a bookstore and buy a novel for 300 Rs, or do you buy it from a stoplight for a guy selling the photocopied version for Rs.50. Its the same novel, but you still go to the store right. As the price disparity is not as much. Same logic applies, when you buy original game, you can play online, you can download all the patches, and you know for sure it works, as opposed to pirated games.

Told you naa I never visited a shop for any game or book :P

I download them :ashamed:

Till date all have worked :hap2:

My Pings are terrible so no online gaming for me :tongue:

:P :P :P
 
I always buy original books

I hardly ever buy legal software...

Go figure!

No, actually the reason is simple,

I buy original books because I know that I want to pay my dues to the person/people who put their efforts into it, and at the same time, I do not feel shortchanged by the publisher because the publisher respects the Indian customer, and is not taking him for a ride by pricing a $20 book for 900, but is rather adjusting it to the purchasing power of the India rupee by pricing it at 250/-

I still have the option of picking a illegit copy for 50/100 whatever, but i wouldn;'t do it

At the same time, I do not buy original games, because even though I want to pay my dues to the folks behind it, the publishers folly (by pricing a $50 game for 2500/-) prevents me from doing it..Not that I can't pay for it, but I won't till these jerks realize that they need to start respecting the Indian customer the way book publlishers did

Hell, even music...Since the cost of legal music should be (Royalty + Production cost of media + Sales expenses + Margins)

Then why th hell do CDs cost 400 compared to 150 for legit cassettes ...since all the variables above are the same for CDs vs cassettes, and in fact the production cost is lower, at worst, the prices should be the same...
 
^^Most pc games sell for 1299 which I think is about fair price to pay if the game is good, maybe 999 bucks would be a better pricepoint. 500 bucks is way too low.
In case you didn't realize, the books that sell for 10% of their US price are asian economy edition that lack certain stuff like nice printing, full color graphics, hard binding and so on. The US editions still cost the same. Infact they don't even have an indian price tag on them :rofl:. Would you be fine if the same thing happened to a game? What if you are restricted to just 800x600 resolution and medium detail levels and the same is priced at 500 bucks. Would you buy that game? By your logic you should!

Same with music... would a 128kbps mp3 do instead of CD quality audio? The current price points of games and CDs are pretty decent. Do remember the fact that in many cases you are getting the same imported CD with same cost of production and probably higher distribution costs for half the price as compared to the western world. Most of the CDs I buy have a big bold import sticker stuck on them. In case you didn't know, do a search for IMPORT in amazon. The typical prices of imported CDs here in the US are roughly double the normal 12.99-13.99 prices normal ones are sold at.

No offence but imho people who say games and music are expensive in india just need a reason to indulge in piracy. Also in case you didn't know, akin to the asian economy edition, there's a stripped down version of Windows too... the starter edition for just 2499 ;).
 
^^Right on, I think everyone fails to realize what the prices of games and music were over 5 years ago.

500-600 bucks for an import CD is a good deal, some are even lower - you can't complain really. Same with games, most games debut at 1300 bucks and eventually drops to 1k - after a year, further reduces to 500 bucks. I wouldn't pay more than 1.5k for a game though, unless I badly want it.
 
The cost of software is debatable...

Cost of Music CDs isn't...i.e. no way i would agree that the current pricing of music CDs is fair....

Say the new Iron Maiden album...the Audio cassette comes for 150/- and the royalty cost for both the Audio cass. and CDs is the same for Sony India (IIRC, this album was released by them), given the fact that the production cost for a CD and a cassette is the same, if not lower for the CD, why should I be payiing a 350% premium for the CD....

The cassette price is fair I say, the CD price isn't

500-600 bucks for an import CD is a good deal

If they produce the cass. in India, what's stopping them from producing the CD here?

If someone quotes low CD sales as the reason, that becomes a self defeating argument !

In case you didn't realize, the books that sell for 10% of their US price are asian economy edition that lack certain stuff like nice printing, full color graphics, hard binding and so on. The US editions still cost the same. Infact they don't even have an indian price tag on them . Would you be fine if the same thing happened to a game? What if you are restricted to just 800x600 resolution and medium detail levels and the same is priced at 500 bucks. Would you buy that game? By your logic you should!

As for books, I never asked them at 10% the price, and i wasn't even talking about the Asian economy editions...

A simple example would be most paperbacks, which sell at ~30-50% of the price of the exact US equivalent...GO pick any Penguin India paperback or even hardbound at Landmark, and it'll be at ~35% the price of the smae book at Strand's :P

Without any dumbing down whatsoever....

So my question still remains, if book publishers can adopt a adaptive pricing strategy tied to the Purchasing parity of the local currency, what's stopping software publishers or movie/music publishing houses from doing the same?

Is it simple pig-headedness or a lack of respect for the Indian customer.....Either way, it's not good IMHO
 
^^Its a question of volumes... how many folks in india would listen to cannibal corpse or symphony x or dream theater ;). Such stuff doesn't come on tapes anyway. The disparity in price between cassettes and CDs is debatable though. The cassette price is artificially low cos anywhere else in the world cassettes cost the same as CDs.
 
Superczar said:
If someone quotes low CD sales as the reason, that becomes a self defeating argument !

Chaos said:
^^Its a question of volumes...

LOL, I said it's a self defeating argument because low CD sales are directly attributable to the high prices....

Agreed that the market for a Cannibal corpse may be limited, even seputura, but there is enough of demand for Dream theatre to warrant cassette production for them...

Hell, Iron Maiden has a huge demand, and I still can't get fair priced CDs

the cassette price is artificially low cos anywhere else in the world cassettes cost the same as CDs.

Cassette prices aren't artificially low, CD prices are artificially high...The publishers make decent margins on cassette sales too, but when it comes to CDs, they make the short-sighted decision of getting obsecenly high margins on very limited sales....

I call it short-sighted because not only does it prevent the market for CDs from growing, but also pushes this (already ) limited market towards piracy...

Demographically speaking, I guess it's a safe assumption to make that a person in India who would want to pickup say a Radiohead release would have a CD player, and would prefer picking a CD over a tape.

But when he notices that a CD (which to repeat, costs the same to the publisher as the tape) is priced at 4X the price of the tape, he either:

a) picks the tape, thereby limiting the growth of the market for CDs

b) turns to piracy

Overall, it's a lose-lose game for both the customer and the publisher....
 
Params, according to Gamespot's Indian sub forums(feb 17th), the X360 only sold 830+ something consoles since it launched in India, which is a very poor number.

As for game pricing, I don't have a problem with it either. I just don't like the erratic manner in which prices are reduced for games over time. In some cases, they aren't reduced at all.
 
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