oc and ac

sunnydiv · Apr 4, 2005

hello,i wonder how this type of system would over clock
where you can have a slim ac, paralel to your cabinate, with cabinate doors open

its would be better than, buying water cooling

or new fans, as it will be upgrade proof

tell me, how woul such a system over clock ?

yes yes, i know its very costly. just curious. just in case

Darklord · Apr 4, 2005

How do you plan to contain condensation that will be caused due to such closeness of the AC to the cabinet ?

superczar · Apr 4, 2005

The AC really won't cause condensation coz the outlet vent of the AC has dehumidified (relatively) air anyway

Shripad · Apr 4, 2005

open the room door for 10 seconds and you will have condensation.
Tried all that a whle ago, spooked my A7V333.

Eazy · Apr 6, 2005

I found that if my computer is on for about a min of half an hour before opening doors and windows then the condensation does not form on the case and other surfaces of the computer. Has any one else found this too ? Over the years I had a lot of problems with computers not starting during the monsoons as there was condensation being formed after I switched off the A/C in the morning.

deejay · Apr 6, 2005

Eazy said:
I found that if my computer is on for about a min of half an hour before opening doors and windows then the condensation does not form on the case and other surfaces of the computer. Has any one else found this too ? Over the years I had a lot of problems with computers not starting during the monsoons as there was condensation being formed after I switched off the A/C in the morning.

Yup , due to the high humidity in the monsoons this is a big problem. especially for the CRT monitor. it takes about 10 ~ 15 minutes for the image to be displayed properly from start up.

The best solution i found was to switch on the m/c "before" switch off the A/C. then wait about 20 minutes , then open the doors and windows in "phases".

Eazy · Apr 6, 2005

deejay said:
Yup , due to the high humidity in the monsoons this is a big problem. especially for the CRT monitor. it takes about 10 ~ 15 minutes for the image to be displayed properly from start up.
The best solution i found was to switch on the m/c "before" switch off the A/C. then wait about 20 minutes , then open the doors and windows in "phases".

I have exactly this problem with my Samsung monitor since the last couple of weeks - it takes 5 to 10 minutes for the display to come to correct density. I bought this monitor 2.5 years back and when I went to the Samsung site a few days back to register a complaint their database showed this monitor to be imported over 3 years ago and so it is out of warranty according to Samsung !!!! I clearly remember that the cartoon of this monitor was quite tatty - really looked dirty but at that time it did not strike me that it was already over a year into its warranty.

andy_anu · Apr 6, 2005

Why dont u try putin in some Silica Gel packets inside da cabinet to absorb moisture ???

Shripad · Apr 6, 2005

its too much moisture in cities like mumbai. Humidity is almost always above 80.
Silica gel dosent help much unless you keep it airtight which aint possible with PCs.
The problem is if your PC is running, your AC is on too. Then accedently you or someone else opens the door for even 1 minute the condensation forms so fast that it will kill your PC is motherboard surface is cold as it immediately starts condensing. And the problem part is the capacitor base. On my A7V333 i literally saw it all sparking up and killed that motherboard, fortunately it was under warranty and got replaced.

inzider · Apr 6, 2005

Hmmm. Getting me a little concerned here. Had plans to make a micro air conditioner for the system, and get rid of all the system fans except the proccy and gfx card fans. Planned to seal off all vents on the cabby, and pad the others with silica gel bags. Think it would work ?

Eazy · Apr 6, 2005

andy_anu said:
Why dont u try putin in some Silica Gel packets inside da cabinet to absorb moisture ???

Silica Gel is good for use only in air tight containers. If there is any opening for air then the silica gel gets moisture saturated within a few hours and has to be heated again. I have about one Kilogram of blue silica gel which changes colour to pink when it absorbs moisture.

Eazy · Apr 6, 2005

funkymonkey said:
its too much moisture in cities like mumbai. Humidity is almost always above 80.
The problem is if your PC is running, your AC is on too. Then accedently you or someone else opens the door for even 1 minute the condensation forms so fast that it will kill your PC is motherboard surface is cold as it immediately starts condensing. And the problem part is the capacitor base.

I have a hygrometer next to my computer and I find that my rooms humidity is normally 70 - 75 % these days but when my A/C is on (like right now) the humidity level is around 50%. So if the A/C is switched off and the doors are opened immediately the humidity level would have a sudden jump from 50% to 75% - not good.

If I am not mistaken there should be no moisture problem with a computer if it has been running for about half an hour before being exposed to sudden moisture level changes as this would warm up the inards of the case and this would not allow condensation from forming on the parts. I normally put on my computer about half an hour before I open the doors in the morning after switching off the A/C.

Every year there is always that one day - when Mumbai normally gets flooded - on which no matter what I do I have a problem starting my computer - this happens every year

My hygrometer on those days has indicated a moisture level of around 90% !!!!

Eazy · Apr 6, 2005

inzider said:
Hmmm. Getting me a little concerned here. Had plans to make a micro air conditioner for the system, and get rid of all the system fans except the proccy and gfx card fans. Planned to seal off all vents on the cabby, and pad the others with silica gel bags. Think it would work ?

Silica Gel breaks up into very fine crystaline powder and it will spread all over the inside of the case - and it has to be constantly checked for moisture content by visually examining the change in the dye colour and then reheated for reuse. If you do not use the Dyed variety of Silica Gel then you will never know if it has become saturated and needs to be reheated.

A few years back I saw an Ad in a magazine for an Air conditioning desk system made in India for computers which had gloves on a acrylic window which your hands went thru to reach the keyboard. It looked like you were doing some nuclear fuel handling. The computer gets air conditioned but you are not.