Panasonic Lumix LX3 - The perfect digicam?

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sydras

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I do not consider myself an avid photographer. Far from it, I'm a guy who believes that tinkering with a photo is best left to the photo studio. I have been following digicams for a while now and while I feel that the recent slew of digital cameras have vastly improved over their predcessors, the indoor picture quality of the recent P&S cameras still leaves much to be desired.

My search for the perfect digicam led me to stumble upon a new jewel that Panasonic had released in July 2008, the Panasonic Lumix LX3. Here are my arguments as to why I think, it's one of the better cameras out there and might well be the perfect digicam.

1) Sensor Size: To start off, the LX3 has a sensor size of 1/1.63". While that's not a lot more compared to most P&S's out there, it's still more than the average 1/2.5" or the 1/1.8" sensor size on most cameras. I was surprised to find out that the SLR-like cameras like for eg: the S5 IS have a sensor size of 1/2.5". I thought there must be some explanation for this and then, I found out that most cameras with 12X zoom and beyond have small sensor sizes. This is due to some photography limitation that I don't understand(I told you I'm a regular P&S guy. What did you expect :P ?) What was surprising though is that the S5 IS only has 4X zoom...go figure :S ?

The other cameras with larger P&S sensors I could find are the Nikon P6000 and S710 and the top of the line Sony W series i.e. the Sony W300.

2) Image ratios: The LX3 gives one the capability to capture photos in 3:2, 4:3 and 16:9 resolution. This is the biggest selling point for me. As an amateur photographer, I've barely half an idea on how to take a shot in perfect lighting etc. and I'm certainly not going to keep in mind, the fact that a certain portion of the image would be cropped during printing. With the LX3, there's no guessing how the printed image would turn out. Just switch to 3:2 for some good 4X6 prints.

3) Image Stabilization: Standard with most good cameras nowadays. The LX3 has it but I just thought I'd mention it.

4) Wide angle: The LX3 has a 24mm wide angle. While I've no idea what it translates to, it's certainly better than for eg: the Powershot G10 with a 28mm wide angle.

5) Zoom: The Panasonic is slightly compromised in this department offering a 2.5X optical zoom. But, to be honest, I care 2 cahoots for the optical zoom as a home user and I think other home users should too. Stop pretending you're some photography expert. You know you just use the zoom for playing around :bleh: .

6) Pop up flash: From what I gather, the poor indoor lighting and red eye in photos is due to the weaker flash on P&S cameras and their close proximity to the lens. A pop-up flash reduces red eye which is a big plus and always welcome for a guy like me who hates tampering with photos once uploaded to my PC. What is also noteworthy is the flash range - 8.3 metres. Show me a P&S flash with that kind of range. One camera I could find with a flash having that kind of range is the Nikon P6000. The P6000 flash has a range of 8m....(hmm the P6000 also seems to be quite good. Maybe I'll check it out too.)

7) LCD: The LX3 has a 3" LCD with 461K colours. I'm not sure how much better it is than most of the other cameras. But most cameras I checked out had 230K screens(the Canon top of the line 6xx series i.e A650IS has a 172K screen.) with a 2.5" display. The Nikon P6000 and W300 have 2.7" screens. The Canon G10 has a 3" screen but is much bigger camera. I thought this is worth mentioning.

8) Internal memory: The LX3 has 50MB internal memory. Not a lot and this could be a irrelevant for many as we all are most certainly popping in a 2GB SD card but it's worth considering that this is much more than what other cameras provide. Plus it might come it handy in the rare event that you forget your SD card at home and have to take photos. I also thought it worthy to mention when I saw that that Sony provides a pathetic 15MB internal memory on the W300. Tsk Tsk. Less said about Sony, the

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9) Colour choice: The camera is supposedly available in black and silver. For many, this is not an issue. For me, well I like silver and I feel black is best left to the professionals. Just my view. No offence to all those experts out there with silver coloured cams.

Cons:

1) No Viewfinder: Panasonic seems to have dropped the viewfinder from it's entire range of P&S cameras and the LX3 is no exception. I personally feel sad about this but my experience with my existing PoS Sanyo Xacti S60 (Yes, you read right. It's more like PoS and not P&S) has led me to believe that the viewfinder isn't a really big deal. Still, I would've liked to have

it on the LX3 just for old times sake or rather to complete the package. There may be cases where I would like my shots to be super steady. A viewfinder would give me that confidence.

With all the improvements Panasonic has made to the LX3, it's would've done them well to include a viewfinder. It could lead to more sales for people on the fence because of this factor.

2) Poor Pop up flash placement: I don't know why no one has pointed this out. Maybe it's because it really isn't a problem but it seems to me that the flash is placed at a point(extreme left) where one would hold the camera for a shot. I would've liked the flash to be placed at the centre (like the SX110 IS). I don't know how much of a problem this is unless I try out the camera.

So fellas, please let me know I'm being too naive or jumping to conclusions about my feelings on the LX3. Mind you, I'm no expert. So, please feel free to tear apart my misconceptions on this device. Also, please correct me wherever you feel I'm wrong w.r.t technical details. Thanks :D .
 
:) Funny how you mention it is the perfect digicam - which it mostly is, because it dares to think different - but for mostly the wrong reasons.

The LX3 is so darn good because:
Pros
1. Sticking to 10MP. With a 1/1.63" sensor, Panasonic had the liberty to go over to the 13-14 or even 15MP league, but decided to stick with only 10megapixels to ensure better higher ISO performance.

2. That sweet f2-f2.8 lens. This is the biggest difference that the LX3 brings to the table -I mentioned MPs first because everyone must understand that. The lens is 1 stop faster than any lens out there and is great for low-light as well as taking pictures with limited DOF - though not as a great as a f2.8 lens on a DSLR. Fast lens, great experimentation capability.

3. Auto CA/PF correction on camera. Chromatic aberration and Purple-fringing are a pain to remove in post-processing.

Neutral - Size, features, RAW, flash performance, IS, body colors and everything else are good but are also things you can find on other advanced compact cameras. (Canon G, Nikon P)

Cons
1. Only the very short focal range 24-60mm. 60mm (or 2.5x zoom) is limiting for most applications though as a hobby camera and street-photography camera, this will be excellent with the fast lens and high ISO performance.

For those who don't understand focal lengths in mm. Get this> Most common P&S cameras which state "3x zoom" or "4x zoom" have lenses starting at 35-36mm. Which means that 2x zoom = 2x36 = 72mm.
i.e, the LX3 can't zoom in even to "normal 2x" zooms that P&S have. BUT, 24mm is a huuuuuuuge advantage in the wide-angle.

It means that you can include 3-4 ppl more in the shot or take a photo of the Eiffel Tower without having to stitch multiple shots. :) 24mm is true wide-angle.

Check out DPR's review of the LX3. It is worth it. But more than anything else, the camera is Panasonic's way of showing that they can differently!
Payne
 
Thanks for your input D.Payne. Yes Panasonic has dared to be different with this camera and I especially like the fact that some of the features measure up to DSLRs.

I'd like to know your opinion on the placement of the flash. Don't you think it might be a problem if the flash pops up from the extreme left when one is holding the camera for a shot?
 
You know this mini-review would be even better if it had a price attached to it !

I mean if this thing costs 29k, i would choose a cheaper cam or go for a DSLR !
 
You're right. It's kinda like a mini review :P . However, I don't think the LX3 is available in India yet. I don't think it could cost that much...I mean, it's supposed to be a compact. No idea about pricing though.
 
BF1983 said:
You know this mini-review would be even better if it had a price attached to it !

I mean if this thing costs 29k, i would choose a cheaper cam or go for a DSLR !

This camera is not addressed to counter DSLRs in the first place. Its meant for a serious photography enthusiast who probably has a big DSLR kit already and wants something small and light that fits in the shirt pocket when he/she doesn't want to carry the entire kit. The other demographic would be the folks who don't want the complications or the heft of a DSLR and hence want a point and shoot. Trust me if you are on a serious hiking trip, a bag full of lenses is the last thing you want on your back. It can tire you out in no time :P.
 
Chaos said:
. Trust me if you are on a serious hiking trip, a bag full of lenses is the last thing you want on your back. It can tire you out in no time :P.

i agree.... :| should get one of those damn camera backpacks
 
Are you sure LX3 for 29K :S its a daylight robbery. The low light champion fuji f31fd was selling $250 around 8 months before. I had an option between fuji f31f or fuji s6000fd as both uses same sensor. i preferred long zoom range hence i got s6000fd for 14K in germany. Ofcourse its a bargain considering higher price of canon s3is thant time
 
adder said:
well IMO G10 is also a good perfect camera.
take a look at the conclusion in this reviews.
Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX3 review Cameralabs verdict

Canon PowerShot G10 review Cameralabs verdict

Some very good point by point reviews there at cameralabs. I did not know about this site. A nice find for me at least.

However, I find it a little odd that they contrast cameras so vividly based on megapixels. Apart from that though, I find that the reviews done are really good if not the best I've seen.
 
Chaos said:
This camera is not addressed to counter DSLRs in the first place. Its meant for a serious photography enthusiast who probably has a big DSLR kit already and wants something small and light that fits in the shirt pocket when he/she doesn't want to carry the entire kit. The other demographic would be the folks who don't want the complications or the heft of a DSLR and hence want a point and shoot. Trust me if you are on a serious hiking trip, a bag full of lenses is the last thing you want on your back. It can tire you out in no time :P.

Well thats why people buy a walk around lens !!! :)

This cam has too short a zoom to be useful in any other situation besides indoor snaps.

If I did not want to lug around too many lenses, I would rather get the Powershot G10. It has a far more useful zoom range.

@Vijaycool - That will most likely be the MRP price for it in India. :)
 
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