PC overhaul
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@asingh.
PCIe x16 + 1 blank slot - 6950
PCIe x16 + 1 blank slot - 6950
PCIe x1 - 300MBPS 2x2:2 adapter wifi
PCI legacy - m-Audio Delta 66
1 free PCIe or PCI slot, preferably PCIe, for Revodrive later.
@Stalker.
My network is N300 and with full N300 throughput I'll be fine. N150 is also OK theoretically for 1080p files. I was looking at some 1080p files and they mostly play fine, though at some times the stream runs out of breath and it breaks. Frankly, this network stutter happens even when playing lesser (240p) files as well, so it's not the streaming load, it's just crappy hardware. And when streaming, the adapter runs really hot. I don't believe plug and play dongles are built for long-term stressful operation, the thermal and engineering envelopes seem too marginal. I have seen some of the better dongles with antennae etc, but I would much rather go with something I know and can rely on. I have built a large collection of USB adapters (and soundcards, hubs etc) which I find are OK for the occasional dust-up but not for sustained long-term use.
As an example, I have a Realtek adapter that shows a connection speed of 150mbs but has actual transfer rate of 1MB/s. The label says 300mbps. My Linksys 54mbps adapter connects at 54mbps, and transfers at 2.5 - 3MB/s. I'm done with cheap nonsense.
PCIe x16 + 1 blank slot - 6950
PCIe x16 + 1 blank slot - 6950
PCIe x1 - 300MBPS 2x2:2 adapter wifi
PCI legacy - m-Audio Delta 66
1 free PCIe or PCI slot, preferably PCIe, for Revodrive later.
@Stalker.
My network is N300 and with full N300 throughput I'll be fine. N150 is also OK theoretically for 1080p files. I was looking at some 1080p files and they mostly play fine, though at some times the stream runs out of breath and it breaks. Frankly, this network stutter happens even when playing lesser (240p) files as well, so it's not the streaming load, it's just crappy hardware. And when streaming, the adapter runs really hot. I don't believe plug and play dongles are built for long-term stressful operation, the thermal and engineering envelopes seem too marginal. I have seen some of the better dongles with antennae etc, but I would much rather go with something I know and can rely on. I have built a large collection of USB adapters (and soundcards, hubs etc) which I find are OK for the occasional dust-up but not for sustained long-term use.
As an example, I have a Realtek adapter that shows a connection speed of 150mbs but has actual transfer rate of 1MB/s. The label says 300mbps. My Linksys 54mbps adapter connects at 54mbps, and transfers at 2.5 - 3MB/s. I'm done with cheap nonsense.
1080p rips cannot be streamed by any wireless medium ATM. 802.11n cannot do it. Results iN mass lags and stutters.
You could consider the AX-850 which is essentially the X-850 with the added 2 year warranty for an additional 2000 INR more. Nothing against Seasonic personally (I use the M12D-850 on my main rig!) but the extended warranty is worth the extra monies.
You could consider the AX-850 which is essentially the X-850 with the added 2 year warranty for an additional 2000 INR more. Nothing against Seasonic personally (I use the M12D-850 on my main rig!) but the extended warranty is worth the extra monies.
Not IME. Yes there is some occasional stutter but this is independent of file size and resolution in my case, so it is some network overhead or hardware quirk, not a bandwidth issue. This is confirmed with the DPC latency that wireless network cards add, and once you add the overhead of USB itself it manifests itself as a problem.
Yes, the numbers look good.
Stutter is never a numbers problem. Whether in networking or in graphics (the ATI crossfire stutter issue cropped in very capable cards) or indeed in CPU math calculation - remember the 5n bug in Pentium 4. It's usually an implementation issue. In theory even a 54mbps connection is sufficient for a 1MB/s stream, in practice encryption, driver and interface overhead make it impracticable
I guess what I'm saying is that it's down to the individual hardware component rather than its classification
Update.
Arrived:
1. Sapphire HD6970, 2 units running in CF mode as we speak. Somehow my old TX750 is managing to run these and a mildly overclocked CPU without issues. Quite surprising.
2. Case: Xigmatek Elysium. Must say it's a mixed bag, some good stuff but some is really archaic - the USB 3.0 cabling, the lack of SSD mounting and the very thin panels are a sore point.
In transit:
AMD 965BE, decided to skip this generation of CPUs
To be ordered:
GA-990FXA UD5
Corsair AX850
In future:
Watercooling setup for CPU + 2 GPUs
Arrived:
1. Sapphire HD6970, 2 units running in CF mode as we speak. Somehow my old TX750 is managing to run these and a mildly overclocked CPU without issues. Quite surprising.
2. Case: Xigmatek Elysium. Must say it's a mixed bag, some good stuff but some is really archaic - the USB 3.0 cabling, the lack of SSD mounting and the very thin panels are a sore point.
In transit:
AMD 965BE, decided to skip this generation of CPUs
To be ordered:
GA-990FXA UD5
Corsair AX850
In future:
Watercooling setup for CPU + 2 GPUs
Not enough light in the world to be able to shoot a black Elysium with black insides, but I'll see what I can do
965BE to me is last generation (if you assume BD is new gen for AMD). Plus, it's good enough to tide me over till the middle of 2012 and then I'll probably go for a 'proper' upgrade of the platform. Note that I currently use 550BE. That's much, much slower. I'm not too keen on getting stuck with x8 CF (Intel) or a weak CPU (AMD) so I'll wait till they sort out their respective issues.
Even the 6970 CF is really not up to scratch. It's a bit better than my 4870x2, but I'm not 100% sure it was worth it to switch. Though it gives me about 50-60% more framerate at the same settings, once I turn up the eye candy it drops pretty badly. Plus, those are noisy cards and the watercooling way is really the only solution long-term. Which is why I chose that case.
Far as I'm concerned, only the PSU and the case are long-term buys, the rest of the innards will come and go. Consider my NZXT Zero was purchased in 2008, as was the TX750. It is time for them to ride into the sunset, even though they have been loyal (even if the Zero did result in very hot hard drives till I figured out the issue).
965BE to me is last generation (if you assume BD is new gen for AMD). Plus, it's good enough to tide me over till the middle of 2012 and then I'll probably go for a 'proper' upgrade of the platform. Note that I currently use 550BE. That's much, much slower. I'm not too keen on getting stuck with x8 CF (Intel) or a weak CPU (AMD) so I'll wait till they sort out their respective issues.
Even the 6970 CF is really not up to scratch. It's a bit better than my 4870x2, but I'm not 100% sure it was worth it to switch. Though it gives me about 50-60% more framerate at the same settings, once I turn up the eye candy it drops pretty badly. Plus, those are noisy cards and the watercooling way is really the only solution long-term. Which is why I chose that case.
Far as I'm concerned, only the PSU and the case are long-term buys, the rest of the innards will come and go. Consider my NZXT Zero was purchased in 2008, as was the TX750. It is time for them to ride into the sunset, even though they have been loyal (even if the Zero did result in very hot hard drives till I figured out the issue).