hahahaaha.. You seriously think a pilot working for Jet airways would sell perfumes for few thousand rupees profit. :lol:Think before you speak. And you can really makeup some stories but a flop one. Why dont you ask someone from techenclave who resides in mumbai and is your mate to come with us and check it. Infact anyone from mumbai you know not only from techenclave. ( If you really want to know the truth). but you are busy doing something else. It wldnt take me me few seconds to prove you i dont know rivunited i can send you a screen shot of the mail when rivunited had first given me his details here on techenclave during second go. and i dont wanna waste time on all this bcoz lot of members might be counting on me and the other few who r actually making an effort to go and visit rivunited's dealer. am the buyer too and a member on techenclave and you got you refund so LET ME DECIDE WHETHER I WANT IT TOO OR NOT MY WAY NOT YOUR WAY BECAUSE ITS MY MONEY NOT YOURS. and you will see what i do if am not convinced with rivunited. And stop making up this dumb stories and let me do my job.
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hahahaaha.. You seriously think a pilot working for Jet airways would sell perfumes for few thousand rupees profit. :lol:Think before you speak. And you can really makeup some stories but a flop one. Why dont you ask someone from techenclave who resides in mumbai and is your mate to come with us and check it. Infact anyone from mumbai you know not only from techenclave. ( If you really want to know the truth). but you are busy doing something else. It wldnt take me me few seconds to prove you i dont know rivunited i can send you a screen shot of the mail when rivunited had first given me his details here on techenclave during second go. and i dont wanna waste time on all this bcoz lot of members might be counting on me and the other few who r actually making an effort to go and visit rivunited's dealer. am the buyer too and a member on techenclave and you got you refund so LET ME DECIDE WHETHER I WANT IT TOO OR NOT MY WAY NOT YOUR WAY BECAUSE ITS MY MONEY NOT YOURS. and you will see what i do if am not convinced with rivunited. And stop making up this dumb stories and let me do my job.
bro why so serious,did i take ur accusation seriously.anyways you can check yourself.I do not have the time for all this.so i let guys decide for themselves .
I will have it sent to you as soon as I get some time, As I already said before I have my semester examinations going on right now. So till the 12th I am pretty packed.
Also I let the dealer know of all the names of the receipts that you have asked for.
See I have been buying perfumes from my dealer for a really long time. They seemed original as per my usage and I was happy with what I was getting for the price, Thats why I decided to share it here. And yes I have also used an ADG from US when I had not started buying from this dealer and its a light fragrance to begin with, Its not supposed to have such a projection in the first place.
Even I was made aware of the two peoples names only by Daredvil, I had never known about such deals on ebay and these people.
Dude, 1stly you have received your refund since you had sent the bottle back. I don't understand what your motive on this thread really is now. You are not really interested in the perfumes nor do you have any genuine comments about the perfumes. All you are here to do is somehow tag me with this person by the name ajit at first and now atul. It seems that you are almost on the verge of hiring a Private Investigator to find out everything I do. Anyway yet again you have made wrong assumptions, I am training to be one, I am in college right now. I had spoken about my exams being on aswell in the previous posts if you bother to read anything that i say.
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When will the Mods step in here? Isn't this getting messy beyond recognition?If @Rivunited can prove whatever is there to prove then that is ok or he should start giving out refunds to whoever wants it. I mean what is the point here now? He might as well stop replying and keep all of you blabbering but still he is, so lets respect that.
@Rivunited I think you should refund Daredevil's money first so that the thread doesn't get unnecessary bumps. There's enough spam in this world anyhow. NOM meant but you have already made your point many times over.
Mods, kindly step in and talk to Rivunited straighaway given a deadline.
If he can prove something or anything - well and good (although there's a huge question mark there).
If he cannot - kindly close this thread and work for a refund procedure that's all.
Although buying through this channel and thinking of a refund under such circumstances is of course not something you can rely upon and neither is that mod's responsibility. Its all at your own risk.
This is the 3rd GO thread and other than a few people, the rest are either satisfied with their purchases or have no problems with the "longevity, projection".
In a nutshell, put an end to this vicious cycle one way or the other.
When will the Mods step in here? Isn't this getting messy beyond recognition?If @Rivunited can prove whatever is there to prove then that is ok or he should start giving out refunds to whoever wants it. I mean what is the point here now? He might as well stop replying and keep all of you blabbering but still he is, so lets respect that.
@Rivunited I think you should refund Daredevil's money first so that the thread doesn't get unnecessary bumps. There's enough spam in this world anyhow. NOM meant but you have already made your point many times over.
Mods, kindly step in and talk to Rivunited straighaway given a deadline.
If he can prove something or anything - well and good (although there's a huge question mark there).
If he cannot - kindly close this thread and work for a refund procedure that's all.
Although buying through this channel and thinking of a refund under such circumstances is of course not something you can rely upon and neither is that mod's responsibility. Its all at your own risk.
This is the 3rd GO thread and other than a few people, the rest are either satisfied with their purchases or have no problems with the "longevity, projection".
In a nutshell, put an end to this vicious cycle one way or the other.
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That's the best part seraph, Daredvil has already received the refund... still he chose to keep spamming the thread :\
I have actually very promptly sent back the money to who ever wanted a refund which was only 2-3people at most.
I have infact very clearly mentioned on the opening post that the best thing about this deal is that I have spoken about a return policy for every buyer on this forum. Anyone having a problem can go ahead and ask for either an exchange or refund. So the refund is not even the issue here.
I have actually very promptly sent back the money to who ever wanted a refund which was only 2-3people at most.
I have infact very clearly mentioned on the opening post that the best thing about this deal is that I have spoken about a return policy for every buyer on this forum. Anyone having a problem can go ahead and ask for either an exchange or refund. So the refund is not even the issue here.
edge111hussain
Forerunner
im still not understanding why r u guys stuck on this atul fella. Check ur products and comment on that, if ur not happy, the OP is clearly is providing a refund. If ur not satisfied, take the pm route and he will sort your query.
There r individuals clearly spamming the thread now repeating the same stuff over and over again.
There r individuals clearly spamming the thread now repeating the same stuff over and over again.
I have received a PM from Rivunited, and given the current circumstances, I had made it very clear to him, that he should first transfer the money to my account and then I shall courier him the bottle, yet he insists that I courier the bottle first cause he has to give it to the dealer.
Quite honestly, firstly, the perfume he sends is a fake Perfume (and I bloody well stand by it, I have posted a picture here just to prove my point,) and then a new scam comes to light.
This guy had been ranting about how he wanted the TE members to get a good deal and was acting as if he is doing all this for charity and taking all the headache of organizing the GO for no benefit to himself and now we come to know by the name written on our own packages, that the perfumes are being sourced by a dealer who is selling them at a much cheaper rate and is notorious for selling fake or first copy perfumes, hence illuminating the point that so far in 3 GO's Rivunited has made quite a tidy sum for himself and yet he has the audacity to ask me to ship the bottle to him first! We all wired him the money first as a show of good faith and he duped us by selling fake goods.
Rivunited, you can keep the money. It doesnt change the fact that you are selling fake goods.
Also if any member posts his experience, it should not be taken as spam, it could prevent someone from getting duped and save his hard earned money.
Quite honestly, firstly, the perfume he sends is a fake Perfume (and I bloody well stand by it, I have posted a picture here just to prove my point,) and then a new scam comes to light.
This guy had been ranting about how he wanted the TE members to get a good deal and was acting as if he is doing all this for charity and taking all the headache of organizing the GO for no benefit to himself and now we come to know by the name written on our own packages, that the perfumes are being sourced by a dealer who is selling them at a much cheaper rate and is notorious for selling fake or first copy perfumes, hence illuminating the point that so far in 3 GO's Rivunited has made quite a tidy sum for himself and yet he has the audacity to ask me to ship the bottle to him first! We all wired him the money first as a show of good faith and he duped us by selling fake goods.
Rivunited, you can keep the money. It doesnt change the fact that you are selling fake goods.
Also if any member posts his experience, it should not be taken as spam, it could prevent someone from getting duped and save his hard earned money.
100 % fake
Hello guys , i was an active member here with the nick xtr.pwnzor , unfortunately i forgot my login details hence posting from a new id.
I am a cologne freak who used to collect colognes a lot , and majority from abroad deals . Some of my collections are posted below .
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From my experience and having sufficient knowledge about colognes i can tell you that , majority of you who bought from this guy may have thought it to be original since you guys are not that much into colognes . Many people maybe thinking oh well this lasts for 3 hours so its original..lol 3 hours is not even long enough for any designer / niche cologne ..
Chanel No. 5(100ml) - 2500rs *FS*
Dior J’adore (75ml) – 1900rs
Armani Mania (M) (100ml) – 1800rs
An Advice to the buyers to spot an authentic cologne seller -> ANY SELLER WHO SELLS 100 % authentic perfumes / colognes , and is CONFIDENT that he is doing a true sale will always put up a description " 100 % authetntic / original perfume / colognes only " because if such a statement is put , and incase if its a fake its not just that a refund we can claim , but we can even put up a case again these guys . I had my doubts first itself when this guy dint have that description of "100 % original perfumes only " , that itself shows hes not confident.
I am sure that you WILL NEVER FIND AUTHENTIC / ORIGINAL designer colognes for such prices ANYwhere in INDIA . Either these are fake , or diluted version .
Mate i CHALLENGE YOU ...These are the best prices you can find for original designer colognes in India , you will never find the same colognes at lower prices any where in India..then why do you want to do an ONLINE STORE SALE? ...
I am ready to sponsor you a retail outlet with rent paid by me , do you have the guts to put the same perfumes for sale in such an open/public place retail out? YOu should put the description "100 / authentic and original perfumes " . THEN DO IT you will be the best perfume/ cologne seller in India. I am sure you wont have the guts to do it since you will surely get beaten up by people for faking around.
Hello guys , i was an active member here with the nick xtr.pwnzor , unfortunately i forgot my login details hence posting from a new id.
I am a cologne freak who used to collect colognes a lot , and majority from abroad deals . Some of my collections are posted below .
View image: 393725 336596596360003 1713148915 n
View image: 408666 336596113026718 1161406840 n
From my experience and having sufficient knowledge about colognes i can tell you that , majority of you who bought from this guy may have thought it to be original since you guys are not that much into colognes . Many people maybe thinking oh well this lasts for 3 hours so its original..lol 3 hours is not even long enough for any designer / niche cologne ..
Chanel No. 5(100ml) - 2500rs *FS*
Dior J’adore (75ml) – 1900rs
Armani Mania (M) (100ml) – 1800rs
An Advice to the buyers to spot an authentic cologne seller -> ANY SELLER WHO SELLS 100 % authentic perfumes / colognes , and is CONFIDENT that he is doing a true sale will always put up a description " 100 % authetntic / original perfume / colognes only " because if such a statement is put , and incase if its a fake its not just that a refund we can claim , but we can even put up a case again these guys . I had my doubts first itself when this guy dint have that description of "100 % original perfumes only " , that itself shows hes not confident.
I am sure that you WILL NEVER FIND AUTHENTIC / ORIGINAL designer colognes for such prices ANYwhere in INDIA . Either these are fake , or diluted version .
Mate i CHALLENGE YOU ...These are the best prices you can find for original designer colognes in India , you will never find the same colognes at lower prices any where in India..then why do you want to do an ONLINE STORE SALE? ...
I am ready to sponsor you a retail outlet with rent paid by me , do you have the guts to put the same perfumes for sale in such an open/public place retail out? YOu should put the description "100 / authentic and original perfumes " . THEN DO IT you will be the best perfume/ cologne seller in India. I am sure you wont have the guts to do it since you will surely get beaten up by people for faking around.
edge111hussain
Forerunner
Mate, u clearly dont know what ur talking. Testers do come crazy cheap when imported from abroad. I have never bought or dealt with the op nor know him, infact i had questioned him on certain things(read some pages back on my questions to him), but ur claim on pricing is wrong.
Infact i can get these testers a lot cheaper than the op and i have a manufacturers, trader as well as am a member of perfumery councils and a registered manufacturer. So i know what im talking.
Im not supporting him or his products in any way since i have never smelled them myself. but all i am saying is forget about the price, labels, packaging or caps. Stick to the product. How difficult is it to carry the tester to a mall and test it against the testers there. If you find a difference, thats that i guess..
Lemme do mention one imp thing here. Some perfumers concentration does differ based on the region. For eg, lacoste essential or lacoste green indian version is lighter than the american counterpart. Why? i have no idea but thats what it is... i feel the same about mani armani and tuscan verve.. Anyways hightime someone intervenes here and stops this madness.
Infact i can get these testers a lot cheaper than the op and i have a manufacturers, trader as well as am a member of perfumery councils and a registered manufacturer. So i know what im talking.
Im not supporting him or his products in any way since i have never smelled them myself. but all i am saying is forget about the price, labels, packaging or caps. Stick to the product. How difficult is it to carry the tester to a mall and test it against the testers there. If you find a difference, thats that i guess..
Lemme do mention one imp thing here. Some perfumers concentration does differ based on the region. For eg, lacoste essential or lacoste green indian version is lighter than the american counterpart. Why? i have no idea but thats what it is... i feel the same about mani armani and tuscan verve.. Anyways hightime someone intervenes here and stops this madness.
What i am saying is , no where in India you can find authentic colognes like chanel No.5 and chanel coco for 2k to 2.5k . You maybe right for testers . Still what i am saying is ...i dont know about this member whos posting , since hes active from 2006 he maybe a genuine guy , but i am telling about the dealer / source of the perfume...does the dealer here have the GUTS to post that these are "100 % original and authentic versions " and you can fil a case against me if you find its a fake?... that itself will expose the fact on how genuine the perfumes/ its dealer is
edge111hussain
Forerunner
but why would he do that?
Why would he say so anyways, he is selling a product for which he is providing a refund if u dont like it. Anyways this thread is kinda done mate.. d points been made. Its i guess left to the guy who was checking the validity etc to post here...
Why would he say so anyways, he is selling a product for which he is providing a refund if u dont like it. Anyways this thread is kinda done mate.. d points been made. Its i guess left to the guy who was checking the validity etc to post here...
So you mean that for example if hes selling me a cologne like Azzaro Chrome ( which i have used before ) and i know the sillage ( projection ) and longevity of the original , and since ive used it before i come to know this one sold here is a fake and i get a refund ...
and Another person ( a first time noob) buys the same fake and finds it impressive and amazing ( regardless its actually a fake and he is ignorant about it ) ....
is that justified?
edge111hussain
Forerunner
No, but this is a 3rd go and it seems most buyers r regulars. Let them judge for themself. Dont blow this out of proportion till the pilot fella checks and reverts back here.
The issue here is not refund or replacement and neither is sharing your experience spam. This is a public forum which is in place for the collective good of members not somebody's private PR firm. Issue here is trust deficit which i am entitled to clarify with the seller. This trust deficit will also effect future GO's so its only imperative that the seller comes out clean or barred from hosting future GO's if he is in the wrong. As far as the product is concerned i brought 4 bottles from him and i can definetly vouch for terre de hermes being original. Rest of them seems original testers but i can't comment unless i compare them from the showroom testers. Anyways i do hope that the seller is not in the wrong.
sriharsha_m
Herald
I would second @edge111hussain, when some members have volunteered to check the authenticity, let them do it and inform us back, why speculate everything before that and blow it out of proportions.
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@showstopper,
Let me get this straight.. You claim to have a previous account. But now after 6months of inactivity you have forgotten your password (also unable to retrieve your password). Now you have made an account just so that you can comment on this GO?
@Zero Cool, Buddy I do not want to keep your money. But you have to understand to send your money I need to receive it from the dealer, I must have it with me in the first place right?
I am a very old member on TE and a lot of senior members know me personally. I have made a lot of contributions to this forum earlier. I am not here to cheat or scam anyone, And the last thing I would want to do is ruin my reputation just to steal 1800rs from only you out of all the other people who have also bought the perfumes. Even your friend Daredvil has sent me back the perfume bottle first. And even though this whole issue started with him I have still kept no hardfeelings about it. Also have returned him his full amount as he confirmed on this thread. Since this is a public forum you are allowed to say alot of things, But when you imply that I am a thief to keep your money. I certainly won't take that lightly. I hope you understand where all this came from, And do the needful.
And to all the people who are talking about how genuine the perfumes are,
This is what you all have to understand:-
1. I am not the seller so I can not take such guarantee on the sellers behalf.
2. The seller gets the tester bottles from Dubai. (If you are aware, Dubai is the worlds cheapest place to pick up perfumes from. I have a friend who used to get me bottles from there and you can get a boxed davidoff coolwater for as low as 60dhs, That's around 800rs for 1 boxed piece. It may sound unreal to you but people who know how perfumes are sold there will be able to confirm this too) And after he sells it in bulk to local perfume stores here.
3. As edge111hussain has already mentioned about testers, I would like to add that there is a variation in some perfumes in the longevity from tester to boxed pack as the tester is only required in the store to demonstrate how it smells and not how long it lasts. No one comes back to the same store after 10hours to see if the same piece of paper still smells of that perfume. It's common sense. But Its not that all brands do this, Some brands make the testers the same way they make the perfumes. So there turns out to be zero difference. That's why there are some inconsistencies when it comes to longevity with particular perfumes.
4. Now my side of the story, I have been buying perfumes either from US or from Dubai before I started buying from my dealer. According to me I felt that the perfumes were all authentic, So I never bothered going in so deep to research every thing to see what is what. For me the logic is pretty simple, I liked what I was getting for the price I was getting it at so I never bothered to worry about such things. I extended that here as I thought people here would like it too and as a matter of fact most people really do like the product they are getting (I get a lot of thank you msgs in PM after every delivery is received).
What I am trying to say with this is that if you like it buy it, If you don't then you really don't have to as I never forced anyone for it neither did I make any false claims, I just found something worth sharing and shared it. I can understand that people have views but not to the point that you completely destroy the GO thread. There are 4 pages of just rambling and bickering on this thread. It started from somewhere completely different and ended at something completely different, There is no relation to the posts and frankly is kind of upsetting that people are taking advantage of the fact that I actually take the time to respond to each and every person. I had nothing to defend myself for 2days ago (every one had all sorts of nice things to say about the deal and me) and now it seems that any random people are joining the forum just to make this GO fail. It came to the point that a lot of other members can see this happen and even they are stepping in to stop the madness.
To all the people who keep piling on the negative comments and labels on me, When will you realise that what you say does not really matter as much as you think it does. People think for them selves when they buy things with their money. If they think its worth it, They will do it no matter what who has to say. So please, Can we stop with the hate msgs?
And Mods, Can I have some help here? Is it really that difficult to see that the purpose of the posts on this thread have now turned into something completely different?
Let me get this straight.. You claim to have a previous account. But now after 6months of inactivity you have forgotten your password (also unable to retrieve your password). Now you have made an account just so that you can comment on this GO?
@Zero Cool, Buddy I do not want to keep your money. But you have to understand to send your money I need to receive it from the dealer, I must have it with me in the first place right?
I am a very old member on TE and a lot of senior members know me personally. I have made a lot of contributions to this forum earlier. I am not here to cheat or scam anyone, And the last thing I would want to do is ruin my reputation just to steal 1800rs from only you out of all the other people who have also bought the perfumes. Even your friend Daredvil has sent me back the perfume bottle first. And even though this whole issue started with him I have still kept no hardfeelings about it. Also have returned him his full amount as he confirmed on this thread. Since this is a public forum you are allowed to say alot of things, But when you imply that I am a thief to keep your money. I certainly won't take that lightly. I hope you understand where all this came from, And do the needful.
And to all the people who are talking about how genuine the perfumes are,
This is what you all have to understand:-
1. I am not the seller so I can not take such guarantee on the sellers behalf.
2. The seller gets the tester bottles from Dubai. (If you are aware, Dubai is the worlds cheapest place to pick up perfumes from. I have a friend who used to get me bottles from there and you can get a boxed davidoff coolwater for as low as 60dhs, That's around 800rs for 1 boxed piece. It may sound unreal to you but people who know how perfumes are sold there will be able to confirm this too) And after he sells it in bulk to local perfume stores here.
3. As edge111hussain has already mentioned about testers, I would like to add that there is a variation in some perfumes in the longevity from tester to boxed pack as the tester is only required in the store to demonstrate how it smells and not how long it lasts. No one comes back to the same store after 10hours to see if the same piece of paper still smells of that perfume. It's common sense. But Its not that all brands do this, Some brands make the testers the same way they make the perfumes. So there turns out to be zero difference. That's why there are some inconsistencies when it comes to longevity with particular perfumes.
4. Now my side of the story, I have been buying perfumes either from US or from Dubai before I started buying from my dealer. According to me I felt that the perfumes were all authentic, So I never bothered going in so deep to research every thing to see what is what. For me the logic is pretty simple, I liked what I was getting for the price I was getting it at so I never bothered to worry about such things. I extended that here as I thought people here would like it too and as a matter of fact most people really do like the product they are getting (I get a lot of thank you msgs in PM after every delivery is received).
What I am trying to say with this is that if you like it buy it, If you don't then you really don't have to as I never forced anyone for it neither did I make any false claims, I just found something worth sharing and shared it. I can understand that people have views but not to the point that you completely destroy the GO thread. There are 4 pages of just rambling and bickering on this thread. It started from somewhere completely different and ended at something completely different, There is no relation to the posts and frankly is kind of upsetting that people are taking advantage of the fact that I actually take the time to respond to each and every person. I had nothing to defend myself for 2days ago (every one had all sorts of nice things to say about the deal and me) and now it seems that any random people are joining the forum just to make this GO fail. It came to the point that a lot of other members can see this happen and even they are stepping in to stop the madness.
To all the people who keep piling on the negative comments and labels on me, When will you realise that what you say does not really matter as much as you think it does. People think for them selves when they buy things with their money. If they think its worth it, They will do it no matter what who has to say. So please, Can we stop with the hate msgs?
And Mods, Can I have some help here? Is it really that difficult to see that the purpose of the posts on this thread have now turned into something completely different?
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