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Guys, i can get only one. Which, FIFA 11 or PES 2011?????
Need to buy today if possible, suggest for PC.
Need to buy today if possible, suggest for PC.
PES 2011 & FIFA 11 PC Demo
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u can customize but it's not meant to be played that way, especially for skills. You need to press almost 9 keys at a time to perform any skill making it extremely difficult.joel.monty said:
comp@ddict said:
If you want to enjoy the games to the max you need to have a xbox 360 or similar controller for either of the games. I have not played PES 2011 as yet, but considering that FIFA 2011 is finally nextgen on PC and with proper licensing, it has a slight edge over PES. Although I would suggest you play both the demos and decide.
I want to buy the retail package of PES 2011, any leads here in Delhi?
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OK. Here are my mini reviews of both the games, mind you, I'm will only be comparing the PC versions.
FIFA 11
Personally, I've been a little sceptical about FIFA since FIA 99, so I might be a tad little opinionated. FIFA 11, just like FIFA 10, 09, 08, is a game with all the bells and whistles i.e. The Features. FIFA excels when it comes to graphics, a close to reality tele experience, great sound (Pro Evo cant even come close to FIFA on this), commentary, licensing, online play, support etc. Now, what do I have to say about FIFA's trademarked features such as Pro Passing etc.
They just sound cool, but they dont really portray themselves in the game. With FIFA 11, the deal is, you play 30 games, and then you'll exactly how to score, the exact spots from where to shoot. Also, almost all the goals in FIFA 11 look just the same. Its not a game to build up and develop to. You learn the tricks, do them at the right time, bang, you're past the defender, it couldnt get any easier.
Players are not even close to their real life counterparts. Their animations might be exact, but I'm not talking about that. Take Drogba for example, or Ibrahimovic. These players are bulky and swear by their physique for goalscoring. In FIFA, they're not like that. Take David Villa for example, Villa scores through dummy runs, draws defenders, and also through his excellent vision in positioning. Villa in FIFA 11 isnt like that. In FIFA 11, have a player thats fast, has good shooting stats, and thats it, score goals to glory. See this is all it depends on, stats. Drogba is such a great scorer, but if you have him in FIFA you cant really do much, thats because his Speed stats are slow. Now thats what I call a flawed heart. This is what EA can never understand. Look at all their games, they market them through bogus trademarked features with cool names.
Now, the defending. Again, defending is not all about speed, agility. There's a whole lot of tactics and mentality involved in defending. Pique, big tall guy, with big feet, defends excellently in FIFA, and he is a good defender in real life. Now, take John Terry for example, John Terry is more of a steal and interception kinda guy, not a one-on-one dogfighter defender. And thats something FIFA cant him.
Another major flaw I saw in FIFA 11: I decided to have a little fun with it, with Barcelona as my team, playing against Real Madrid (yes, El Clasico baby!), playing online with this Polish player @Kotikolakraw (5 star rated). He had Real, so he had the advantage of stats, with Ronaldo, Higuain, Kaka, Benzema etc.. I was just chilling, wanted to have some fun. I made Messi my goal keeper, Valdes and Pique my strikers, Iniesta, Xavi and Busquets and Villa my defenders, had 2 DMFs, Pedro and Bojan, 1 CMF, Maxwell, and 1 AMF, Puyol. Messi's goalkeeping was formidable! I did concede 4 goals, mainly because the opponent was firing high flying curve shots from C.Ronaldo, but he did save some 10 shots. I lost the match, 4-3, but I still dominated possession for most of the game. Iniesta, a little thin man, was an excellent defender, tackling Kaka till his knees ran out. Puyol, my main playmaker of the game, made some excellent through balls and lobbed passes, setting up goals for Valdes.
See the point? This is what I'm talking about. The FIFA 11 engine failed to differentiate between players in this. Valdes (who is actually a goalkeeper) scored 2 goals for me, one from an excellent bicycle kick, which frankly I find it hard even with Villa or Messi. FIFA couldnt understand this. And this proves that players are not programmed to be how they actually are.
I'm not saying FIFA 11 is bad. It is a HUGE, I mean a HUUUGE improvement over the previous FIFA versions. I never expected to EA to really come up this high. They did infact surprise me. But when it comes to being a close to the real thing, an actual good football 'simulator', nah.
Plus, the heart of the game, is not something you can build and develop yourself on. Soon, you'll get to know the quirks of the game and this will only lead to you winning 10-0 all games even at the highest difficulty.
Verdict: Go for FIFA if graphics, sound, commentary, presentation is your main priority. FIFA is something you can show off with. But the engine is undeveloped, and more precisely, flawed. You can enjoy the game now and then, but for long term playing, plus playing with real serious challenge in mind, this game doesnt cut it.
PES 2011
The Japs call their version of the game Pro Evolution Soccer, sounds cheesy, just like everything Japanese, but then again, is deep, and precise, just like everything Japanese. The graphics of PES 2011 have seen an improvement, but still their lighting effects are something to rave about. The stadium, the pitch, the audience, are all strictly above average. The presentation, I must say, has improved a million strides over last year. Its superb! Plus the tactics menu, is again, brilliant, no-nonsense, and gives you the options you want to fiddle with. There is a philosophy in this, it invites to change the way your team plays, and to try different playing styles, like possession football like most Spanish teams, attacking football like the Dutch, midfield run throughs like the Argentines, or simple through passing tactics like the British.
The player stats are what sets this game apart. They have some 30 various rated stats, like Attack, Defence, mentality, speed, Short Pass Accuracy, Short Pass Speed etc. Then they have like 'Pokemon cards' kinda thingys, introduced only last year, like 'Extra Attacker' for Pique, who occasionally comes up front to help score, Incisive Run for Messi, means cutting through the side into box to score, Dummy Runner for Villa, Enforcer for Mascharano etc. This is what makes these players unique.
Messi is Messi, Drogba is Drogba. When you make runs with Drogba, you can feel his physical presence on the defenders, the way he goes through them. He is slow, but that doesnt seem the issue, just like his real life counterpart. You have someone like Darren Bent, sneaking past defenders from out of the box to receive a pass inside and score, and this is actually how he seems in PES. Iniesta, always making a presence everywhere in the pitch, has the Free Roaming card, and does behaves likewise.
Next, the major improvement in PES 2011, THE PASSING! The freedom to pass the 'EXACT' way you want to with the new passing systems, plus some change in the game mechanics, is totally AWESOME! (I rarely use the word awesome but I couldnt resist this time).
PES wants you see the beauty of this game called football. Wants you to find you own style of play, whether wide, narrow, possession, etc, and develop it, and see what works out best for you. This is where its sense of realism comes into play. Its a refined system, built on and improved for years and years, exploring depths which let me tell you, is hard to game developers of any genre to go into.
The beauty in the PES engine is unbelievable. Sometimes me and my friends, after a nice long session of PES, just admire and discuss about how deep the game is. The players, the passing, the defenders (which was a weak point a few years back), and the goalkeepers (huge improvement again this year).
In PES, ALL GOALS you score are scored differently. There is no 'sweet spot' to shoot from. Keepers may behave in an exactly similar situation differently from they behaved before, it depends on countless factors, and this is what actually counts.
Conclusion: PES 2011 is the closest to what can get of the real thing.
ADIOS AMIGOS.
--- Updated Post - Automerged ---
OK. Here are my mini reviews of both the games, mind you, I'm will only be comparing the PC versions.
FIFA 11
Personally, I've been a little sceptical about FIFA since FIA 99, so I might be a tad little opinionated. FIFA 11, just like FIFA 10, 09, 08, is a game with all the bells and whistles i.e. The Features. FIFA excels when it comes to graphics, a close to reality tele experience, great sound (Pro Evo cant even come close to FIFA on this), commentary, licensing, online play, support etc. Now, what do I have to say about FIFA's trademarked features such as Pro Passing etc.
They just sound cool, but they dont really portray themselves in the game. With FIFA 11, the deal is, you play 30 games, and then you'll exactly how to score, the exact spots from where to shoot. Also, almost all the goals in FIFA 11 look just the same. Its not a game to build up and develop to. You learn the tricks, do them at the right time, bang, you're past the defender, it couldnt get any easier.
Players are not even close to their real life counterparts. Their animations might be exact, but I'm not talking about that. Take Drogba for example, or Ibrahimovic. These players are bulky and swear by their physique for goalscoring. In FIFA, they're not like that. Take David Villa for example, Villa scores through dummy runs, draws defenders, and also through his excellent vision in positioning. Villa in FIFA 11 isnt like that. In FIFA 11, have a player thats fast, has good shooting stats, and thats it, score goals to glory. See this is all it depends on, stats. Drogba is such a great scorer, but if you have him in FIFA you cant really do much, thats because his Speed stats are slow. Now thats what I call a flawed heart. This is what EA can never understand. Look at all their games, they market them through bogus trademarked features with cool names.
Now, the defending. Again, defending is not all about speed, agility. There's a whole lot of tactics and mentality involved in defending. Pique, big tall guy, with big feet, defends excellently in FIFA, and he is a good defender in real life. Now, take John Terry for example, John Terry is more of a steal and interception kinda guy, not a one-on-one dogfighter defender. And thats something FIFA cant him.
Another major flaw I saw in FIFA 11: I decided to have a little fun with it, with Barcelona as my team, playing against Real Madrid (yes, El Clasico baby!), playing online with this Polish player @Kotikolakraw (5 star rated). He had Real, so he had the advantage of stats, with Ronaldo, Higuain, Kaka, Benzema etc.. I was just chilling, wanted to have some fun. I made Messi my goal keeper, Valdes and Pique my strikers, Iniesta, Xavi and Busquets and Villa my defenders, had 2 DMFs, Pedro and Bojan, 1 CMF, Maxwell, and 1 AMF, Puyol. Messi's goalkeeping was formidable! I did concede 4 goals, mainly because the opponent was firing high flying curve shots from C.Ronaldo, but he did save some 10 shots. I lost the match, 4-3, but I still dominated possession for most of the game. Iniesta, a little thin man, was an excellent defender, tackling Kaka till his knees ran out. Puyol, my main playmaker of the game, made some excellent through balls and lobbed passes, setting up goals for Valdes.
See the point? This is what I'm talking about. The FIFA 11 engine failed to differentiate between players in this. Valdes (who is actually a goalkeeper) scored 2 goals for me, one from an excellent bicycle kick, which frankly I find it hard even with Villa or Messi. FIFA couldnt understand this. And this proves that players are not programmed to be how they actually are.
I'm not saying FIFA 11 is bad. It is a HUGE, I mean a HUUUGE improvement over the previous FIFA versions. I never expected to EA to really come up this high. They did infact surprise me. But when it comes to being a close to the real thing, an actual good football 'simulator', nah.
Plus, the heart of the game, is not something you can build and develop yourself on. Soon, you'll get to know the quirks of the game and this will only lead to you winning 10-0 all games even at the highest difficulty.
Verdict: Go for FIFA if graphics, sound, commentary, presentation is your main priority. FIFA is something you can show off with. But the engine is undeveloped, and more precisely, flawed. You can enjoy the game now and then, but for long term playing, plus playing with real serious challenge in mind, this game doesnt cut it.
PES 2011
The Japs call their version of the game Pro Evolution Soccer, sounds cheesy, just like everything Japanese, but then again, is deep, and precise, just like everything Japanese. The graphics of PES 2011 have seen an improvement, but still their lighting effects are something to rave about. The stadium, the pitch, the audience, are all strictly above average. The presentation, I must say, has improved a million strides over last year. Its superb! Plus the tactics menu, is again, brilliant, no-nonsense, and gives you the options you want to fiddle with. There is a philosophy in this, it invites to change the way your team plays, and to try different playing styles, like possession football like most Spanish teams, attacking football like the Dutch, midfield run throughs like the Argentines, or simple through passing tactics like the British.
The player stats are what sets this game apart. They have some 30 various rated stats, like Attack, Defence, mentality, speed, Short Pass Accuracy, Short Pass Speed etc. Then they have like 'Pokemon cards' kinda thingys, introduced only last year, like 'Extra Attacker' for Pique, who occasionally comes up front to help score, Incisive Run for Messi, means cutting through the side into box to score, Dummy Runner for Villa, Enforcer for Mascharano etc. This is what makes these players unique.
Messi is Messi, Drogba is Drogba. When you make runs with Drogba, you can feel his physical presence on the defenders, the way he goes through them. He is slow, but that doesnt seem the issue, just like his real life counterpart. You have someone like Darren Bent, sneaking past defenders from out of the box to receive a pass inside and score, and this is actually how he seems in PES. Iniesta, always making a presence everywhere in the pitch, has the Free Roaming card, and does behaves likewise.
Next, the major improvement in PES 2011, THE PASSING! The freedom to pass the 'EXACT' way you want to with the new passing systems, plus some change in the game mechanics, is totally AWESOME! (I rarely use the word awesome but I couldnt resist this time).
PES wants you see the beauty of this game called football. Wants you to find you own style of play, whether wide, narrow, possession, etc, and develop it, and see what works out best for you. This is where its sense of realism comes into play. Its a refined system, built on and improved for years and years, exploring depths which let me tell you, is hard to game developers of any genre to go into.
The beauty in the PES engine is unbelievable. Sometimes me and my friends, after a nice long session of PES, just admire and discuss about how deep the game is. The players, the passing, the defenders (which was a weak point a few years back), and the goalkeepers (huge improvement again this year).
In PES, ALL GOALS you score are scored differently. There is no 'sweet spot' to shoot from. Keepers may behave in an exactly similar situation differently from they behaved before, it depends on countless factors, and this is what actually counts.
Conclusion: PES 2011 is the closest to what can get of the real thing.
ADIOS AMIGOS.
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