Phase Changer Cooling
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Rivunited
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ok.. i wanted phase cuz water cooling seems like a really gr8 deal of work...
initially i thot abt using ready made TEC kits for the cpu but problem is even i get tht i wont be able to use it on my comp if i upgrade my system....
main issue is with all other cooling tht it will prolly have to be sold off later when i buy a new processor... but phase cooling is suitable for any mobo and cpu so i thot it wud turn out to be a better buy, but if u can suggest me a better solution which i wont have to get rid off once i upgrade again then tht wud be gr8... cuz im planning on buying the amd quad core cpus once they are out... so keeping in mind tht plz suggest me some thing more suitable....
@ funky: wut upgrades do u suggest i shud get for my current rig. anything appart frm making me change my cpu to C2D cpus
@harshal: when will the cryo-z be out? ya i read abt it in some sites and it wud be a cheaper compared to all the high-end phase coolers.
@ nikhil: i actually will get 50k to do wutever i want.. but i thot i might go in for some good cooling... but if upgrade is a better option i can spend the money on tht
initially i thot abt using ready made TEC kits for the cpu but problem is even i get tht i wont be able to use it on my comp if i upgrade my system....
main issue is with all other cooling tht it will prolly have to be sold off later when i buy a new processor... but phase cooling is suitable for any mobo and cpu so i thot it wud turn out to be a better buy, but if u can suggest me a better solution which i wont have to get rid off once i upgrade again then tht wud be gr8... cuz im planning on buying the amd quad core cpus once they are out... so keeping in mind tht plz suggest me some thing more suitable....
@ funky: wut upgrades do u suggest i shud get for my current rig. anything appart frm making me change my cpu to C2D cpus
@harshal: when will the cryo-z be out? ya i read abt it in some sites and it wud be a cheaper compared to all the high-end phase coolers.
@ nikhil: i actually will get 50k to do wutever i want.. but i thot i might go in for some good cooling... but if upgrade is a better option i can spend the money on tht
the_new_guy
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cryo-z is vaporware.
chilly1 really is the guru but it recent times he has not been doing so well, a little bad luck and a little greed has lead him to be in great debt and back orders.
the problem with vapochill is that it can't handle the heat output of newer proccy and very low temps and it is over priced. I custom unit is much better bang for the buck.
chilly1 really is the guru but it recent times he has not been doing so well, a little bad luck and a little greed has lead him to be in great debt and back orders.
the problem with vapochill is that it can't handle the heat output of newer proccy and very low temps and it is over priced. I custom unit is much better bang for the buck.
Shripad
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Well most good water kits are universal these days with clips for all sockets.
You can use TEC with both air and water. If you are ready to do some work yourself you wont need a kit.
Just buy peltier and small modifications can make it work with any waterblock as such.
Peltier has its own drawbacks. First you need a damn good psu with lots of amps on 12v line or a seperate psu to power the peltier. And if something goes wrong anywhere it will go out with big bang. I had played with TEC with my 9800XT few years ago and escaped a disaster. So you need to be aware of the dangers of things before you jump in.
Your best bet is to invest in a good water cooling system. it can be pain to set up but once done it will give good results without too much worry. To be honest a high end air cooler is all you need if you are not gona go over normal limits.
I dont know who put the idea into your head that all other coolers are not universal. Almost all water kits and most modern air coolers have either different mounting kits or universal mounting kit.
You can use TEC with both air and water. If you are ready to do some work yourself you wont need a kit.
Just buy peltier and small modifications can make it work with any waterblock as such.
Peltier has its own drawbacks. First you need a damn good psu with lots of amps on 12v line or a seperate psu to power the peltier. And if something goes wrong anywhere it will go out with big bang. I had played with TEC with my 9800XT few years ago and escaped a disaster. So you need to be aware of the dangers of things before you jump in.
Your best bet is to invest in a good water cooling system. it can be pain to set up but once done it will give good results without too much worry. To be honest a high end air cooler is all you need if you are not gona go over normal limits.
I dont know who put the idea into your head that all other coolers are not universal. Almost all water kits and most modern air coolers have either different mounting kits or universal mounting kit.
Go thru Funky's post.
As for Cryo-Z... heh I dont know.. I said when it comes out
@Riv, the thing is I dont know how well u r prepared to deal with a failure or something going wrong... as incase of extreme cooling chances of going bad [it takes one mistake, and then condensation to make life hell] are very high.
As for Cryo-Z... heh I dont know.. I said when it comes out
@Riv, the thing is I dont know how well u r prepared to deal with a failure or something going wrong... as incase of extreme cooling chances of going bad [it takes one mistake, and then condensation to make life hell
] are very high.After goin thru the entire thread and all the posts of riv, I feel your 50k is better used for getting a C2D upgrade and a good quality air cooler. Think about it... 50k will get you an E6600, a kickass mobo and some really good quality ram along with a top aircooler like Ultra-120/Tuniq Tower 120. With decent airflow, either of them can manage 3.6-3.7GHz out of a good stepping C2D easily. Ask yourself if you really need more. If you manage to sell your existing stuff, you could upgrade your cooling to water as well if you wish. Phase is meant for record runs not for 24/7 operation... get real .
.the_new_guy
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yaa....agreed
vapor phase change is for u if u already have the bleeding edge hardware and want to push it for 24X7 operation.
for WR we have DI or LN2.
vapor phase change is for u if u already have the bleeding edge hardware and want to push it for 24X7 operation.
for WR we have DI or LN2.
A noob's suggestion....If you have 50k to spend then these might be better upgrades..1. An x6800 +some cooling...overclock it...
2. Add some money and maybe get 2 8800gtx in sli mode or if you are willing to wait the r600.
3. Change your config like chaos said and get a 6600 + high quality ram + mobo and water cooling...You can get some extra dough by selling of your older machine(the fx60 +mobo etc)
Rivunited said:lol i did not want to shift to C2D cpus
i might make a switch now when amd comes out with their quad core cpus :cool2:
It's unfortunate that you don't want to upgrade to C2D, especially if you enjoy overclocking. Fanboyism only does one thing - deprives you of the best
50k will get you an E6600 coupled with a great motherboard (P5N32-E SLI) and an entry into the DDR2 1k club
Rivunited
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wuts the diff between chilled h2o and vapour..???
@ RiO: i dont find any sense in upgrading frm dual core to dual core... well i might go for the intel quad core once tht is out... but not dual core again.. seems like a useless upgrade... and how much wud i get if i sell off my old stuff for buying new hardware in march?
@Hotstuff & raj_pol: ill wait for R600
@ RiO: i dont find any sense in upgrading frm dual core to dual core... well i might go for the intel quad core once tht is out... but not dual core again.. seems like a useless upgrade... and how much wud i get if i sell off my old stuff for buying new hardware in march?
@Hotstuff & raj_pol: ill wait for R600
I guess it depends on how you look at it... I don't think I'll upgrade to Quad this year based on the fact that applications I use can't take advantage of it. And anyway pricing will not stabilize this year since it just launched and AMD's quad variant is due mid-2007.
You can either choose to upgrade to a better dual core immediately for 50k and upgrade to Quad early 2008, or wait until mid this year and upgrade to Quad. I'd pick the immediate upgrade because it is partially preparing for Quad core Get a good motherboard and high performance DDR2 kit with C2D now and gift yourself an extreme Quad chip whenever you're ready Even if you chuck Intel for AMD's quad variant later, you can still keep the quality DDR2 kit. There are advantages both ways, just go with what makes sense to you
You can either choose to upgrade to a better dual core immediately for 50k and upgrade to Quad early 2008, or wait until mid this year and upgrade to Quad. I'd pick the immediate upgrade because it is partially preparing for Quad core
Get a good motherboard and high performance DDR2 kit with C2D now and gift yourself an extreme Quad chip whenever you're ready Even if you chuck Intel for AMD's quad variant later, you can still keep the quality DDR2 kit. There are advantages both ways, just go with what makes sense to you - Status