CPU/Mobo Phenom II Info thread

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Ankurkh1

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Came accross this info here

These Phenom II are surely turning up to be a force to reckon with. I feel AMD is a great Platform solution.
No wonder there are still (After Phenom's near about failure) so many AMD fanboi's around....... and now, that includes me as well :eek:hyeah:
 
No.

IPC will still be lower than Intel, but you'd be crazy to get a PhenomII hoping to beat the C2Q on pure performance. Total platform cost and ownership cost will be slightly lower for slightly lower performance, and the objective will be to get the power consumption competitive with the Intel counterparts as well.

Now that AMD has taken the focus off server parts, we can expect some more action in the desktop arena. Expect the 32nm shrink (tock) of the i7 to really set off the cat among the pigeons. By the time AMD gets a competitive architecture, it'll be 2010 at least (I predict). Which is fine, as any modern CPU is enough fr the regular user.

The game is never won or lost at the high end of the market anyway, not in CPUs, or televisions, or anything. It's how meaty the offerings in the middle are. Right now, what Intel needs fast is a good overall platform. Their CPUs are king of the hill and will remain that way for some time, so don't expect miracles. It took Intel four years to fight back their way to the top, so give AMD the same amount of time.
 
Some more Phenom scoop



1. AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition with Part Number: HDZ940XCGIBOX who will have 125W TDP, would you get into Socket AM2 +, will be timed to 3000MHz and will have 8MB Cache.

2. AMD Phenom II X4 920 with Part Number: HDX920XCGIBOX who will be re-125W TDP, would you get into Socket AM2 +, will be timed to 2800MHz and will have 8MB Cache.

Cpu name: Phenom II 940 (core Deneb, AM2+) @ 3GHz

Motherboard: M3A79-T Deluxe (AMD 790FX+SB750 )

Memory: 4096 Mb CSX 1066MHz (DDR2)

Graphics: Gigabyte 4870X2 2048Mb

Os: Win Vista 64 Service Pack 1

Drivers: Motherboard bios: 0602, Catalyst 8.10, MB chipset 3.0.642.0

Crysis Warhead: DX10 high, shaders very high, 1920x1200x32, AA off

Results:

Average:47fps

Max: 84fps

Min: 36fps

Source: markbench.blogspot.com

3DMark Vantage 15,180 with 6870X2
 
Some Info on Phenom II Pricing here

Talking of pricing : New Price slashes announced for current Line-Up

Product Old price ($) New price ($)
Phenom X4 9950 BE 186 175
Phenom X4 9850 BE 180 165
Phenom X4 9750 170 154
Phenom X3 8750 134 124
Phenom X3 8650 123 104
Athlon X2 6400+ 102 87
Athlon X2 6000+ 95 77
Athlon X2 5600+ 88 70
Athlon X2 5400+ 78 66
Athlon 64 LE-1640 ~40 36.50
Phenom X4 9750B 224 165
Phenom X3 8600B - 110
Athlon X2 5400B - 71

source
 
* AMD Phenom II 940 Black = €245 = US$318
* AMD Phenom II 920 = €205 = US$266
man 920 comes to abt 12 ks...in inr....

wud have been great at 10ks..

was thinkin of goin for c2d e8400 setup in jan..gettin a rig for my bday..

wudnt have minded spedin 1-1.5 extra for phenom 2..
 


AMD Processor Roadmap, Launch Dates Revealed



AMD processors launching starting in January 2009 through June 2009 unveiled

AMD is placing its hopes of regaining market share lost to Intel on its new line of processors set for launch next year. AMD is planning to launch a lot of processors, 14 of them to be exact according to the latest roadmap uncovered.

HKEPC says that the different processors to be launched will use the Phenom II brand and some will bring back the Athlon name. The new parts will all be 45nm desktop processors and will start coming to market in January 2009, a few of them likely to be announced for CES 2009 in early January. New processor introductions are reported to last until June when all of the new parts will be official.

When AMD first announced its new processors, the naming convention was unanimously disliked with its Phenom branding along with a five-digit model number. The parts will now launch under the brand names previously mentioned and sport a three-digit product identifier.

45nm quad-core processors for the AM2+ and AM3+ sockets will be in the Phenom II X4 900 family and Phenom X4 905 family. A 4MB L3 cache version of the Deneb CPU will also be added in the Phenom II X4 800 family. The Phenom II X4 900 and 905 CPUs will have 2MB of L3 cache.

The launch date for the 45nm AM2+ quad-core Deneb is now reported to be January 8; the CPU was originally expected in mid-December. When February 2009 rolls around, AMD will unveil six socket AM3 45nm processors including the Phenom II X4 925 with 6MB of L3 cache and a Phenom II X4 910 with the same cache. A pair of 4MB L3 cache processors, the Phenom II X4 810 and Phenom II X3 710 will debut the same month. Also tipping up in February will be a pair of 6MB L3 cache CPUs including the Phenom X3 720 and the Phenom II X3 710.

CPUs to be released under the Athlon brand will be 45nm, but will lack the L3 cache of the higher end parts. The Athlon X2 200 family will feature two parts and will offer 2MB of L2 cache with a 65W TDP and is slated for release in June. DailyTech reported on an AMD roadmap in November that mentioned a few of these processor families by code name.

The breakdown of processors looks like this:

January 2009:

* Phenom II X4 940 at 3GHz, 8MB total cache using the AM2+ socket

* Phenom II X4 920 at 2.8GHz with 8MB of total cache on the AM2+ socket

February 2009:

* Phenom II X4 910 2.6GHz with 8MB total cache on the AM3 socket

* Phenom II X4 810 Phenom II X4 810 2.6GHz with 6MB total cache on the AM3 socket

* Phenom II X4 805 Phenom II X4 805 2.5GHz with 6MB total cache on the AM3 socket

* Phenom II X3 720 Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz with 7.5MB total cache on the AM3 socket

* Phenom II X3 710 Phenom II X3 710 2.6GHz with 7.5MB total cache on the AM3 socket

April 2009:

* Phenom II X4 945 3.0GHz with 8MB total cache on the AM3 socket

* Athlon X4 615 2.7GHz with 2MB total cache on the AM3 socket

* Athlon X4 605 2.5GHz with 2MB total cache on the AM3 socket

* Athlon X3 420 Athlon X3 420 2.8GHz with 1.5MB total cache on the AM3 socket

* Athlon X3 410 Athlon X3 410 2.6GHz with 1.5MB total cache on the AM3 socket

June 2009:

* Athlon X2 240 2.8GHz with 2MB total cache on the AM3 socket

* Athlon X2 235 Athlon X2 235 2.7GHz with 2MB total cache on the AM3 socket
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DailyTech - AMD Processor Roadmap, Launch Dates Revealed
 
Almost always stable

We've seen Phenom II, Deneb overclocked all the way to 6.2GHz. This was not a screenshot boot, we've seen it with our own eyes, as chaps from AMD managed to run the Crysis benchmark several times. The machine was stable on almost every run.
AMD was insisting that this was a stock CPU, not a cherry picked one, and that similar scores should be expected from retail products. Intel has never managed to get to over 6GHz and we are sure that Intel is doing some catching up. You naturally need some LN2 to get to such a high scores and it looks that Phenom II might become an overclocker's favorite toy.

This is quite an achievement and with water you will get to 4GHz+, while with a good air cooler you should reach clocks around 4GHz.
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Hmm the Shanghai proccies though not ground breaking are certainly a notch above the older barcelona cores..

AMD's 'Shanghai' 45nm Opterons - The Tech Report - Page 1

Sadly performance falls short of the competition, but whats intresting is the power footprint, wonder how the desktop versions will score against Core 2 quads ? in terms of power footprint ....

Hopefully the Phenom 2 will be priced correctly, for mid level proccies ie: 5-8k for a quad core :)
 
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