I am looking for headphones for gaming and classical music. In an earlier thread many people had recommended the Audio-technica Ad700. After searching a lot I have come to the conclusion the thatthe cheapest I can hope to get this is 5.5k. I recently stumbled upon Phillips headphones SHP 8900 which is going for 3k on ebay and shp 9000 which is going for 4k on ebay. Searching the net I could not find a single professional review, but some folks here and at head-fi.org actually consider the shp 9000 to better than even the more expensive sennheiser hd 595. Should I go for the Ad700 for 5.5k or the shp 9000 for 4k.
Phillips shp 8900/9000 vs Audio-technica ad700
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Dare Devil
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I don't know anything about the Philips HPs.
I am using AD700.I love these babies very much.(I am not a Bass head)
For gaming and music this is the best HP in the 5k range.
By using 10% coupon in GEB u can get the AD 700 for 5k.
I am using AD700.I love these babies very much.(I am not a Bass head)
For gaming and music this is the best HP in the 5k range.
By using 10% coupon in GEB u can get the AD 700 for 5k.
I searched globaleasybuy, the cheapest I could find was 6k which after coupon would become 5.4k. Actually one of the interesting posts I read was that Phillips has a past of making bad headphones and that is why their current models are not popular. I agree that AD700 are really good, but it is very wrong to conclude that they are the best in the 5k range.Dare Devil said:
Brendon
Galvanizer
The A700 are NOT the best in the 5k category. They might suit some people but I find that they have barely any bass to speak off ! I seriously cannot believe people can enjoy gaming without much bass. :S
@OP - The A700 might suit your needs for classical as they have a nice soundstage but their bass performance is seriously lacking. But I have heard the SPH 9000 and I did not feel they were very good either. Too much sibilance and they also have not so good bass performance.
Try and see if you can hear the Senheisser HD555. They should aslo cost around 5.5k.
The other option in the 5.5k range is the Alessandro MS1 from Pristine Note. - http://www.pristinenote.com/index.p...id=211&zenid=6be4d8992d411266bf49e1577f0768d2
Oh and in case you wish to go cheap, do try out the Koss Porta pros as well. They are not very refined but I seriously love them. They sell for about 2.8k in India.
@OP - The A700 might suit your needs for classical as they have a nice soundstage but their bass performance is seriously lacking. But I have heard the SPH 9000 and I did not feel they were very good either. Too much sibilance and they also have not so good bass performance.
Try and see if you can hear the Senheisser HD555. They should aslo cost around 5.5k.
The other option in the 5.5k range is the Alessandro MS1 from Pristine Note. - http://www.pristinenote.com/index.p...id=211&zenid=6be4d8992d411266bf49e1577f0768d2
Oh and in case you wish to go cheap, do try out the Koss Porta pros as well. They are not very refined but I seriously love them. They sell for about 2.8k in India.
Dare Devil
Herald
^yes.The AD700 severely lack in bass.If u r a bass head AD700 is not suitable for u.But they do well with Classical.
OP : Correction in my previous post "For gaming and music this is one of the best HP in the 5k range"
OP : Correction in my previous post "For gaming and music this is one of the best HP in the 5k range"
Philips do produce great phones. First I was surprised by the quality of mere .6k SHP2000's output. Then later I moved on to get something better and picked up SHP8900 for around 3k. Damn I would say SHP series is the most underrated phones. They produce such blissful output. It might not compare to 5k AD700. But for Rs 3k SHp8900 is a clear winner. I'm not sure with audio terms to explain how its output/signature is. They have tight bass and very detailed. Very durable and with detachable cord.
Have look at this SHP8900 review by ReNaGAde. Also bug dom1nator to get clear picture as he also owns both 8900 and AD700. I believe Fah33m had SHP9000.
Have look at this SHP8900 review by ReNaGAde. Also bug dom1nator to get clear picture as he also owns both 8900 and AD700. I believe Fah33m had SHP9000.
@BF1983
If the SHP9000 you referred is faheem's then its completely wrong. I had used his 9000, and it has something seriously wrong, i mean its cone seems to be damaged or something. It stutters too much on bass and detailing was almost gone completely. Try to listed another set, maybe u will change ur attitude towards SHP altogether.
SHP 8900: good detailing with tight bass, but not very powerful either. But the bass quality and quantity is better than AD700. Is harder to drive than AD700, HD201, RX900 etc. Needs proper amping. Havnt heard HD 555 or HD 595, but heard from other guys that the 8900 is somewhat sounding like HD 595, but 595 has lot better earcups, comfort and is lightweight.
AD700: Great soundstage. One of the best soundstage HP in sub 10k. Detailing too is good, but great. Bass is week and quality is OK, but hey its an open dynamic HP. Suited for classics only. Also good for gaming like CS where it seems to create a virtual positional audio experience, but no way its surround effect like Roccat Kave. Amping is not necessary, even clip+ is able to drive it properly.
Both are really comfortable to wear, and can be used for long hours. Ad700 feels lighter. Both are worth their price. For gaming and movies with bass, 8900 will be better, but make sure u have an amp, atleast an E5.
AD700 needs really good source for its amazing soundstage to surface. Might not sound that well on onboard or entry level soundcards.
If the SHP9000 you referred is faheem's then its completely wrong. I had used his 9000, and it has something seriously wrong, i mean its cone seems to be damaged or something. It stutters too much on bass and detailing was almost gone completely. Try to listed another set, maybe u will change ur attitude towards SHP altogether.
SHP 8900: good detailing with tight bass, but not very powerful either. But the bass quality and quantity is better than AD700. Is harder to drive than AD700, HD201, RX900 etc. Needs proper amping. Havnt heard HD 555 or HD 595, but heard from other guys that the 8900 is somewhat sounding like HD 595, but 595 has lot better earcups, comfort and is lightweight.
AD700: Great soundstage. One of the best soundstage HP in sub 10k. Detailing too is good, but great. Bass is week and quality is OK, but hey its an open dynamic HP. Suited for classics only. Also good for gaming like CS where it seems to create a virtual positional audio experience, but no way its surround effect like Roccat Kave. Amping is not necessary, even clip+ is able to drive it properly.
Both are really comfortable to wear, and can be used for long hours. Ad700 feels lighter. Both are worth their price. For gaming and movies with bass, 8900 will be better, but make sure u have an amp, atleast an E5.
AD700 needs really good source for its amazing soundstage to surface. Might not sound that well on onboard or entry level soundcards.
I agree with BF1983. The 555's are great cans and are very comfortable.
They might not have as much bass as my M50's but while watching movies/playing games, you never feel any lack of bass whatsoever.
I have heard the AD700 only once and that too a couple of years ago so cant compare it with the 555 but it did have a lesser amount of bass.
They might not have as much bass as my M50's but while watching movies/playing games, you never feel any lack of bass whatsoever.
I have heard the AD700 only once and that too a couple of years ago so cant compare it with the 555 but it did have a lesser amount of bass.
Brendon, no bass on the AD700? You've got to be kidding me! I am no bass head but the bass (subtle if I may add) in these cans paired with my DAC has blown me away. I use the AD700 for gaming on the PC and it has been an awesome experience by far. I am not sure what went wrong in your case though. Either, there was some problem with the DAC/amp or the cans were not burned in completely.
AD700s do have bass but its very light and rolls off pretty soon . There no sub bass at all , not much of impact or punch as well .If compared to an IEM, I can say its got bass similar to that of SoundMagic PL-30. Other than that the mids , treble and soundstage on this is simply amazing .
As long as one is fine with his headphones not being able to produce the dhaam and dhnoom effcect of bombs and blasts , these can be used for gaming . Infact lot of gamers Ive seen seem to love AD700 for its amazing soundstage.
As long as one is fine with his headphones not being able to produce the dhaam and dhnoom effcect of bombs and blasts , these can be used for gaming . Infact lot of gamers Ive seen seem to love AD700 for its amazing soundstage.
Brendon
Galvanizer
Yes you are right that was Faheems set. I dont think it was damaged when I used it as it had a decent amount of detailing. But its possible that it was not representative of how a SHP9000 should sound especially considering the many glowing reviews of them on head-fi.dOm1naTOr said:
Well, they are very good headphones for sure. I seriously loved their soundstage and the amount of detailing was good as well. BUT they do not have any subbass to speak off. Just have a look at their frequency charts compared to the HD555 and two portable headphones px100 and Portapros-Desecrator said:
http://www.headphone.com/learning-c...raphType=0&buttonSelection=Compare+Headphones
PristineNote
Forerunner
Hi,
I am new to the Forum here, but I couldnt help but notice the thread. I own both 8900/9000 and AD 700. I also own the Flagship HP1000. I will be brief here, but try and be to the point. Built quality on 89/90 is an serious issue and Philips has discontinued the support of the model. However, if they are sold at sub 3000 INR, they are serious contender.
Bass is a tad thin on Philips vs Audio Technica but not at the cost of being slow. The AD700 has better sound-stage. Mids are good on both. The Philips tend to sound a bit thin.
Both Headphones are not targeted for gaming audience. AD in Audio-Techinca is from their Audiophile Series. They just got popular in gaming segment too. I do not recommend an amp if budget is your consideration.
I would not recommended Senn 555. They are not worthy for price/performance factor.
If money is your only criteria go for the Philips. However if you do consider other parameters AD700 would be a better bet. I think warranty is going to be issue on both
. I think that 8900/9000 would match up to AD500.
Philips would not be a bad idea to start with a decent headphone anyways. Try and bargain you could get them for sub 2500 INR
. Philips has already liquidated the stocks. At 2500 INR go for philips.
I am new to the Forum here, but I couldnt help but notice the thread. I own both 8900/9000 and AD 700. I also own the Flagship HP1000. I will be brief here, but try and be to the point. Built quality on 89/90 is an serious issue and Philips has discontinued the support of the model. However, if they are sold at sub 3000 INR, they are serious contender.
Bass is a tad thin on Philips vs Audio Technica but not at the cost of being slow. The AD700 has better sound-stage. Mids are good on both. The Philips tend to sound a bit thin.
Both Headphones are not targeted for gaming audience. AD in Audio-Techinca is from their Audiophile Series. They just got popular in gaming segment too. I do not recommend an amp if budget is your consideration.
I would not recommended Senn 555. They are not worthy for price/performance factor.
If money is your only criteria go for the Philips. However if you do consider other parameters AD700 would be a better bet. I think warranty is going to be issue on both
. I think that 8900/9000 would match up to AD500. Philips would not be a bad idea to start with a decent headphone anyways. Try and bargain you could get them for sub 2500 INR
. Philips has already liquidated the stocks. At 2500 INR go for philips.- Status