Car & Bike Pulsar 200/Karizma/Yamaha R15??

The Pulsar and Karizma will cost you around 80-90k while the R15 is 1.1L on road. If you can afford it, then its NO brainer at all.
 
Anish said:
The Pulsar and Karizma will cost you around 80-90k while the R15 is 1.1L on road. If you can afford it, then its NO brainer at all.
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it also depends upon ur requirements :)
 
yea..anish. i wanted A performance bike.. Karizama i heard teh maintenance cost is high... I can extend my budget 10-15 k.. If R15 is really better than pulsar 200/karizama...
 
^^ if u want a performance bike then R15 is far better than the other two options

0-100 and handling pulsar and ZMA won't come close to R15 ...... but i will not suggest R15 as a daily use bike, ZMA with relaxed riding stance and low end torque is better IMO .....
 
U surely need to search your inner self before trying to decide between 3 diverse machines. :)

What is your age?
How many bikes have you owned till date?
If owned or not, how often do you ride and how many Kms have you done till date on all bikes owned or borrowed?
Have your rides been primarily city or highway?
What will be the primary use of the bike you buy??

:)
 
hi BIKeINSTEIN's... i am 24 years of age.. I drives daily alot.. office n other work too.

i owned low end bike HERO HONDA SPLENDOR

I lives in Gurgaon .

I hv driven apprxx 40000 km till now.
 
riturajnitk said:
hi BIKeINSTEIN's... i am 24 years of age.. I drives daily alot.. office n other work too.
i owned low end bike HERO HONDA SPLENDOR
I lives in Gurgaon .
I hv driven apprxx 40000 km till now.
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Splendor wasn't low end by any means- do not be ungrateful to a bike that served you well hopefully.:cool2:
It's the bike that turned the fortunes for HH and was quite good for it's times- FE, ride comfort, features, ...
I think you will be better off with a P200 ( i strongly dislike BAL bikes) or Zma- R15 is not for you.
The RTR FI is another option.
In fact, have you tried the Unicorn- it's old now and a very understated and under-appreciated machine- but it's fast, handles great, smooth, reliable and has quite good FE for it's class. :)
 
dont listen to bikey, buy a r15 :bleh:

HH's parts are very very high. very old bike now( almost 5years ) and the serivice sucks.

Baja's parts are not cheap either. since p200 comes into the premium category. (e.g; 6.5k for exhaust). lots of minor problems. some big problems too. service sucksXsucks. only one service center per city. hotter engine. problem getting right oil (20w50 is out of stock most of the times) using other grade screws the engine if oil not changed before 1500km.

r15 is new, lots of international technology. quality and finish is topnotch, plastics are cheap.

now its a win win situation. even if the service of r15 sucks, you wont be at a loss as the other's service sucks too. lets hope yam provides good service.
 
booo said:
HH's parts are very very high. very old bike now( almost 5years ) and the serivice sucks.
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And how often do HH riders, especially Honda Unicorn ones need to replace anything compared to BAL if you maintain your bike well? :)
booo said:
only one service center per city. hotter engine. problem getting right oil (20w50 is out of stock most of the times) using other grade screws the engine if oil not changed before 1500km.
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You cannot change the grade of oil for any vehicle unless using a superior grade- that too subject to certain conditions.
20W50 is available everywhere since ages- especially at the authorised service centre for sure.
And one service centre per city- where do you live- Jhumritalaiyya?? :p
booo said:
r15 is new, lots of international technology. quality and finish is topnotch, plastics are cheap.
now its a win win situation. even if the service of r15 sucks, you wont be at a loss as the other's service sucks too. lets hope yam provides good service.
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U think maintaining a LC+FI bike in India is easy- forget cheap?? :p
The R15 is the first wave; the awakening of a potential segment of genuine motocycling, lying suppressed for a lot of reasons for a very long time.
Those who have the will and passion will overcome every odd anyways- may God be with those who are looking for a casual, splendor-like maintenance friendly daily ride with good FE. :cool2:
 
BIKeINSTEIN said:
And how often do HH riders, especially Honda Unicorn ones need to replace anything compared to BAL if you maintain your bike well? :)
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1. I had to change few sets of panels each costing 750+
2. Timing chain + tensioner once.
3. two accidents costed me 14+9K
4. front mag wheel due to bad roads. (5K)
5. carb jets (500 bucks), disk pads (800bucks which now cost 1.5k)
in two years of ownership. now tell me.

BIKeINSTEIN said:
You cannot change the grade of oil for any vehicle unless using a superior grade- that too subject to certain conditions.
20W50 is available everywhere since ages- especially at the authorised service centre for sure.
And one service centre per city- where do you live- Jhumritalaiyya?? :p
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1. Castol Active 4T Extra
2. Motul 300V 15w50
3. Castrol Power1 (this is actually a multigrade semisynth)

Except for the second one, none lasted more than 1500K, Power1 is easily available but others are not. The oils I mentioned are JASO MA certified and can be used in bikes, dont mention castrol magnatec, shell helix etc since they are not JASO MA and will cause clutch slippage if used in bikes.
If you want I can list out atleast 10 oils in 20w40 which are JASO MA :)

Oh I forgot, you cannot give pro bike in a normal service center. 200, 220 are serviced in probiking only. I dont know of a city where there are two probiking centers. I think there are two in pune, but I am not sure.

BIKeINSTEIN said:
U think maintaining a LC+FI bike in India is easy- forget cheap?? :p
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I have been maintaining a suzuki swift which is both LC and FI for more than an year now, I dont think its that costly.
BIKeINSTEIN said:
The R15 is the first wave; the awakening of a potential segment of genuine motocycling, lying suppressed for a lot of reasons for a very long time.
Those who have the will and passion will overcome every odd anyways- may God be with those who are looking for a casual, splendor-like maintenance friendly daily ride with good FE. :cool2:
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please dont compare maintenance of splendor with bigger cousins.
I currently own a p200 and my last accident costed me 14K
apart from the expenses, most of the times those pro-mechanics dont know what they are doing.

Well, All personal experience here. Some how I have a crush on r15, but I am not saying that the serivce would be exceptional from yam. but then others are not great either. so if you buy it, you will have a good bike + may be a good service too. I am optimistic about it. :)
 
Did i ever say R15 is bad- you read otherwise. :lol:

And when did accidents come into maintenance costs? :S
If they did, God forbid- who will account for the insurance premium for you or any possible major hospitalisation/rehabilitation in case ofa serious accident?? :ashamed:

and if 20W50 is recommended, how can you use 20W40? :S

And i am not comparing Splendor to anything- people just cannot comprehend a lot of stuff.
There is a certain metality/way of thinking looking at the history of any rider.
A lot of people buy sporty bikes only to feela little morose about it not being as maintenace friendly as their economiser.
And some cannot ride an economiser even if they were given one for free. :)
Some may get one trying to keep running costs in check but strongly dislike it for every moment they own it for the lack of power/acceleration/speed/handling/ etc etc. :)

And i didn't know there is a bike called 'Maruti' Suzuki Swift. :cool2:
And every expenditure counted as expensive or cheap is a relative term.
(also as per your logic of maintenance- what about a failed ECU in your swift or burnt clutch assembly, etc.- God forbid once again)

This thread is going O/T and the OP will finally get what he likes or mostly what 5-10 of his closest friends like or may totally disregard careful personal decision as per personal requirement and go with what the majority of the populace "thinks" is good. :)

My apologies- some statements may have come across rather harsh or strongly but just having a healthy debate- no offense to you or anyone else. :)
 
every1s opinion counts :p

N yes, its a matter of personal thinking bikey...rightly said...not that others dont have their own valid points / experiences.

If I had money rite now, the R15, even tho I m not used to drivin a bike :ashamed:.

Me, I bought a blaze, I put up with the occasional small niggles and FE for the good ride experience (it was the biggest ungeared I could get, and that beats anything for city driving :eek:hyeah:). Luckily, kinetic service hasnt been a problem (The kinetic COMPANY-owned service center is 2km from my office :clap: and those guys have always been helpful, touch-wood :hap5: )

To each his own.

Out of those 3, I still say the R15 for the new tech and the gr8 engine + handling.
 
BIKeINSTEIN said:
Did i ever say R15 is bad- you read otherwise. :lol:

And when did accidents come into maintenance costs? :S
If they did, God forbid- who will account for the insurance premium for you or any possible major hospitalisation/rehabilitation in case ofa serious accident?? :ashamed:

and if 20W50 is recommended, how can you use 20W40? :S

And i am not comparing Splendor to anything- people just cannot comprehend a lot of stuff.
There is a certain metality/way of thinking looking at the history of any rider.
A lot of people buy sporty bikes only to feela little morose about it not being as maintenace friendly as their economiser.
And some cannot ride an economiser even if they were given one for free. :)
Some may get one trying to keep running costs in check but strongly dislike it for every moment they own it for the lack of power/acceleration/speed/handling/ etc etc. :)

And i didn't know there is a bike called 'Maruti' Suzuki Swift. :cool2:
And every expenditure counted as expensive or cheap is a relative term.
(also as per your logic of maintenance- what about a failed ECU in your swift or burnt clutch assembly, etc.- God forbid once again)

This thread is going O/T and the OP will finally get what he likes or mostly what 5-10 of his closest friends like or may totally disregard careful personal decision as per personal requirement and go with what the majority of the populace "thinks" is good. :)

My apologies- some statements may have come across rather harsh or strongly but just having a healthy debate- no offense to you or anyone else. :)
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Power1 is a multigrade that I had to use as I couldnt find motul or Active 4t Extra. I never said I used 20w40 in my bike.
read P200,220 uses 20w50 and r15,zma uses 20w40

Even if you take out the accidents from the equation, you will find that the maintenance prices are high. for that matter, if you want to compare the prices of swift and zma, try finding out the prices of consumables like disk pads and clutch plates for both and compare. you will understand. I wanted to say is FI is kind of tried and tested in india by now. it works most of the times and there are not many maintenance costs associated with it.

I am just trying to put all my experience with those bikes here. I will stop this mine is bigger than yours debate here.
~ciao
 
^^ Actually there is a comparison. They are all bikes after all !!!

Anyways the R15 is a little small so if you are tall you will not like it as much as a shorter person. Also it is NOT a commuting bike so don't get it if you do regular commuting in neck to neck traffic.
 
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