Forum Feedback Religous and political issues

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^^ sorcerer. there is no point where the damage ceases to be done. as long as any offending posts remain, they continue to offend others. If you spot a flamewar, do you let it grow to find out what the OP's had in mind ?

- Lets say we close General Talk; all these religious thread issues are solved right?
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- We could close Market, and no more of those threads grumbling about the people who sign up and post only in the market.
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not bad ideas IMHO :P , especially the former. Once GT was tightly regulated. now the mods have just let it run loose and check up on it once in a while to see if everything is ok. I feel Laissez-faire is not the proper way to run a forum like TE. We are not 4chan. maybe occasionally, but not all the time.
 
greenhorn said:
not bad ideas IMHO :P ,especially the former.
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Any predictions what a poll on it would say ?

This thread would be redundant if ppl were mature enough to leave what's said in 'a' thread within the thread and not carry the grudge over elsewhere. But i guess that might asking a lot :P
 
It would probably be a self defeating poll. probably all the spammers would vote in favour of keeping it, and the people who stay out of GT probably wont even read it :P

Given a choice between two logical extremes, i would have chosen closing them altogether, but ideally, a well regulated forum would be the better option :)
 
How bout the strike system, 3 strikes and u are banned for a month.

But seriously recently there many such threads coming up.
 
SidhuPunjab said:
Minimum post count striction required for starting thread in the general talk section. We can judge people in 100 posts, ban or infraction if found spreading their propaganda here.
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Hehe I have like 7000 posts and I started a thread which lead to a religious flame fest. Not my fault! :(
 
[OT]Does an Apple vs Windows debate count as a clampdown type thread :lol: [/OT]

Back on topic, me thinks the current setup works fine

If some jerk repeatedly flames, report the post so that a mod can delete the offending post(s)

If a number of well meaning people act like jerks, close/delete the entire thread
 
greenhorn said:
anything could be discussed, as long as it is done properly. If they continue to degenerate into flamewars, then its better not discussed at all. Besides, a religious flamewar is not as relevant to a tech site , as say a windows/linux/mac flamewar or ati vs nvidia flamewar :P
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Well, the problem is that there always seems to be some members around with alarmingly disturbing views regarding religion and politics the likes of which even people like Raj Thackeray or Bala Thackeray would be ashamed of having and threads that are even remotely related to politics look like the Sunday night carnival to them. Then there are some members whose sole participation on the forums seems to be in contributing racist comments stereotyping some religion or community of people and I see their posts no where else.

You cannot have a sane discussion on such topics with people like those around and you cannot keep quiet about them either when someone is typing non sense on a public forum that every one can view. After all you can tolerate this much in a day. A popular forum like TE has audience ranging from school going children to 70 year Olds and comments like those impacts the people in many different ways.

So its better to not allow the existence of such threads at all. I vote for complete deletion of such potential flame war threads as soon as they are started. We would be far better off with less disturbing Mac vs PC flame war threads :P
 
Everybody has his/her own views about certain things. Everyone should be open to discussion, or a constructive debate.
I'm open to changing my views about certain things if the other person posts some valid points. That is how a discussion
should be like ideally. Without any swearing, without any foul language.
What can one do if someone, without even reasoning why a thing is being said, starts flaming in the thread?
I've seen so many threads on TE (and on other forums as well) where a normal discussion goes haywire just because of some fanatics.
At this time mods should intervene and should take a view of things and take the necessary steps.
But, IMHO, deleting an entire thread should definitely not be an option. Even specific posts should not be deleted/altered unless it's absolutely required.
Mods should read the posts, and see who is flaming, who is crossing the line and decide accordingly.
 
i like that idea... remove the offending posts and let the discussions continue ...discussions and debates are good , some people might even be compelled to see the other side of the coin and *shock* agree with it , remove the flaming posts , let the debates continue ...forum might even do some good politically :)

* i have changed my mindset about certain things from interacting with the other side of the spectrum on chats ....if those topics were clamped ,my head would still be in the sand , my 2 paisa
 
^^ Who decides if a post is offending? who decides if a certain p.o.v is acceptable or not?

imo the best way out would be to prevent any and every discussion that touches upon sensitive issues. TE is not a political/current affairs forum. there are numerous other options for the same.

lets keep it clean here.
 
blr_p said:
Care to name a few ?
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Even if there are none, keeping TE clean of political/religious crap is better.

BTW you can join hate/anti-hate groups on Orkut, facebook or start your blog if you wish to do so or troll at the news sites commenting on stories to vent your anger/frustration/displeasure. But why ruin a tech forum like TE by indulging in nonsensical debates and moronic rants?
 
Totally agree. Let's just keep TE clean. Hate- mongering makes me sick and I guess some find me a pseudo-secularist and sickening but what's that got to with tech and the general pursuit of happiness (general talk)?
 
increase the number of mods...let them deal with it per posts basis....interesting to see many "cool liberals" supporting blanket bans on political topics..
 
^^Liberty or freedom doesn't mean one's free to abuse/ hurt others. The two topics in question can be destructive to the harmony of TE as a site for tech related matters. You ever seen a thread started by any "cool liberal" telling u how cool secularism is? Or how cool it is to live without religious/ regional blinkers?

It's always the destructive ppl who take advantage of unchecked "liberty" and "freedom". Be they terrorists or hate mongers.
 
anything wrong with my suggestion of having more mods...that wud b a good long term solution..in a country with ton loads of blasts happening over a year..its normal for these threads on those to turn in to political and religious..its sad but given the political system full of tokenisms in our country it is inevitable...will your blanket bans stop ppl from opening threads on those events..

let those additional mods come from "kool liberal kult"..blanket ban is not a solution....as i said u can run but cant hide from political issues..look at the threads and its posts and then make a decision..
 
nahice.. my links got deleted.

i thought it was just links to other tech forums that were not allowed... one can't link to even general discussion forums?

wouldn't that be a little tooo high handed?
 
Naga said:
It's always the destructive ppl who take advantage of unchecked "liberty" and "freedom". Be they terrorists or hate mongers.
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I'm cool with dropping the religous stuff, there is no place for it in a tech site.

But you have included politcs well. An issue that affects all regardless of which religon or not one comes from. Yes the distinction between the two is blurred (on purpose) but everyone knows that's just politics puling the strings in the background.

nahice.. my links got deleted.
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PM, but leave out hate-anything.
 
@cricfan, u do have a valid point but why appoint more mods when we can just stop this kind of threads? If there's a blanket ban, we get rid of topics which will only help in separating all of us "liberals" and "whatever u're calling the other side".

Also, how will a mod be impartial to all concerned on such a volatile issue? What's acceptable for me might be totally un-palatable to some one else. And this is not about a gadget where one either likes it or hates it. Religion is the core of most human beings. Dare we pass judgment on matters of faith so light heartedly in a public fora?

And, like I said, what has religion to do with the bomb blasts in India?

Edit: @blr_p, actually I am yet to see any kind of politics in India which is not rooted in religion/ regionalism/ casteism. And ,actually, I have'nt seen a thread discussing politics devoid of the earlier mentioned trinity here on TE either.
 
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