CPU/Mobo server cpu vs desktop cpu for workstation

rocking · Sunday at 4:02 AM

I want to setup a workstation with proxmox and wonder if a server cpu with ECC RAM(less geekbench score) is better than desktop cpus like 12400f which is the best in the market right now in the range of Rs 8000? I also see refurbished workstations so how compareable these are?

desiibond · Sunday at 11:47 AM

Why not go with Workstation class setup (eg: Threadripper or Intel Xeon W)?

Edit: Saw what is required for Proxmox setup. If you need to run lot of containers and web servers, 5950X based setup will be absolute VFM. Dirt cheap parts, lot of options but you lose upgrade path. Next best would be the 7950X.

rocking · Sunday at 11:48 AM

desiibond said:
Why not go with Workstation class setup (eg: Threadripper or Intel Xeon W)?

they are costly and not in my budget. looking for something under/around 50k

desiibond · Sunday at 11:50 AM

rocking said:
they are costly and not in my budget. looking for something under/around 50k

Go for 5950x based setup then. Absolute VFM. Lot of cores and parts are dead cheap in used market as well. You may have to extend your budget a bit. In case of strict budget limitation, if you already have a setup based on 12400F, no point in trying to upgrade if your current setup is running without any issues.,

rocking · Sunday at 11:53 AM

do you think it will perform better in virtualization compare to 13600kf?

desiibond · Sunday at 11:59 AM

rocking said:
do you think it will perform better in virtualization compare to 13600kf?

Get whichever is cheaper. You will not find too much of a performance difference between these two and both seem to be pretty stable platforms for Proxmox. Check on Proxmox subreddit about compatibility for your use case.

rocking · Sunday at 12:01 PM

i am looking for more information using a system with more cores or more performance considering cpu price is same for both,

TEUser2K1 · Sunday at 5:37 PM

Vaguely remember reading about Intel 13th & 14th gen k series CPUs crashing, hope it's not relevant here.

Kaching999 · Sunday at 5:55 PM

Are only going to be setting up a server or are you planning on heavy GPU workloads as well?

jayanttyagi · Sunday at 8:33 PM

What are you planning to run on it? How many VMs? Etc

rocking · Sunday at 9:23 PM

setting up few docker based apps, one windows, one linux mint and few testing apps. as i will be the single user, the load will remain low most of the time.

ibose · Sunday at 11:01 PM

rocking said:
setting up few docker based apps, one windows, one linux mint and few testing apps. as i will be the single user, the load will remain low most of the time.

Those can be supported by a desktop cpu. Hell even a laptop or one of the Tiny PCs will suffice.

jayanttyagi · 2024-07-15T00:06:11+0530

rocking said:
setting up few docker based apps, one windows, one linux mint and few testing apps. as i will be the single user, the load will remain low most of the time.

Get a 12600F or something similar.

desiibond · 2024-07-15T06:06:21+0530

rocking said:
i am looking for more information using a system with more cores or more performance considering cpu price is same for both,

That depends on how heavy your workload is. For minimal load, even 13600kf will be overkill.

altair21 · 2024-07-15T08:07:47+0530

rocking said:
setting up few docker based apps, one windows, one linux mint and few testing apps. as i will be the single user, the load will remain low most of the time.

eh, you dont need anything beefy then, heck even your own laptop running docker on windows will suffice lol

Kaching999 · 2024-07-15T10:53:13+0530

Yeah you can get away with a 12600/f/k/kf easily for that type of workload, if plan on testing apps that may require so GPU horsepower go for a cheap used one like an old rx580 or if you want something more then you can go with a 2060 super, if not then go with the 12600 non-k/k as integrated graphics will be enough. You can pair that with a decent b760 motherboard for good power delivery and you are good to go. A 12400 would also do but the higher core count of the 12600 will be much better for running VMs. Answering your question, server CPUs are made for reliability and stability and not for performance, so if you think that you might not need much single threaded performance then you can also go for a server grade CPU with 14/18/20 or more cores, whatever you might find best in your budget. You can checkout severbasket as they have many options to choose from.