Slumdog Millionaire: Simply wow!

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Sigh.... such a mindless ruckus over a movie...
I'm just going to repeat what I posted in "Last Movie You Have Seen" thread.

iGo said:
To all those whiners whining about showing of poor Indians and slums... STFU!
It's not about India, it's not about Indian People... try and look past the basic premises of the movie and you'll see a great story of a low-life chap and his life story. This just shows that we cannot think past our frog-in-a-well mentality. If you're so concerned about someone showing Indian slums and poor people, then go out and make a change, make your city a magazine cover beautiful place.

Like the dialog in a movie, when tourist car driver hits Jamal when he sees his car sabotaged, "You wanted to see the real India? Well, here it is, see".
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iGo said:
To all those whiners whining about showing of poor Indians and slums... STFU!
It's not about India, it's not about Indian People... try and look past the basic premises of the movie and you'll see a great story of a low-life chap and his life story. This just shows that we cannot think past our frog-in-a-well mentality. If you're so concerned about someone showing Indian slums and poor people, then go out and make a change, make your city a magazine cover beautiful place.

Like the dialog in a movie, when tourist car driver hits Jamal when he sees his car sabotaged, "You wanted to see the real India? Well, here it is, see".
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And that's what i meant by taking the world for granted. Everyone who has either read or contributed to this thread does.

The next time a DTDC delivery chap snaps back at you then remember to read this thread again.
 
sid_donnydarko said:
Right from start to finish.

Maybe if you were a chaiwalla than you'd understand.
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In terms of hopes & dreams yes, puts lots of middle class ppl to shame in terms of sheer audacity.

But maybe you can give us an insight here :hap2:

The usual thing that stirs up mongers is someone trying to jump classes but i did not see any of that here, which what i meant to say earlier.
 
blr_p said:
In terms of hopes & dreams yes, puts lots of middle class ppl to shame in terms of sheer audacity.

But maybe you can give us an insight here :hap2:

The usual thing that stirs up mongers is someone trying to jump classes but i did not see any of that here, which what i meant to say earlier.
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I have an idea :)

Irrespective of you academic qualifications, get a job in a call-center either domestic or international. Then try telling your relatives that you work in a call-center. Following which ask yourself these two questions

1st Qn - Do you want to tell your relatives that you work in a call-center?

If NO then proceed,

2nd Qn - Why Don't you want to tell your relatives that you work in a call-center?

If your answer to the 1st question is YES, then i want to honestly know if you'll take up the security guard's post let alone the chaiwalla's in the same call-centre.

Think about it :)
 
Umm, if one gets a job in a call center, then why would one care for a lower paying job ?..does not demean the person doing it of course but we're all looking to go up in life aren't we :)

That is if one was proud to work in a call center and tell one's relatives the same.
 
blr_p said:
but we're all looking to go up in life aren't we :)
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Bang on target :)

Everyone wants to move forward and fulfill dreams of becoming well settled let alone rich.

"Everyone" is the problem. Our world is a materialistic one and not all of us are destined to lead fairytale, happy lives or even meet with a happy end.

Keeping the above in mind, do you even remotely think if lower caste members let alone slum dwellers stand a chance? Why do you think we call them slum dwellers or lower caste members? According to the caste system that is their place forever.

When they start realizing that they've been receiving the shorter end of the stick, do you think they'll all keep quiet and carry on with their mundane slum dwelling lives? Maybe some of them will ultimately accept their fate but question is can you accept yours if put in a similar state? :)

Watch Slumdog Millionaire from their perspective.
 
Don't these ppl come into contact with others in their day to day lives, whose position they might conceivably never obtain ?

A chai-walla serves customers across the board.

Why does a movie change this ?

Part of the draw of the movie to me (and i suspect a great many) is that one would like to believe (for a moment) that a slum dweller could wing his way like the protaganist did. That the host of the movie refused to buy it shows the disbelief, that's why he ended up being interrogated, the host made a complaint. An honest indictment of our mindset.

The dabbawalla until recently was also someone no one thought had anything much to offer cept lunch but then there were quite a few reports worldwide about how they only miss like one in 6 million deliveries :O

We refuse to believe we are good until a foreigner tells us so.
 
sid_donnydarko said:
Watch Slumdog Millionaire from their perspective.
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So you know their perspective without being one?

You are contradicting a lot in your post there my friend. There are many people who have risen up from the lowest corner of the society. I have grown up in middle-class family, spending 15 years of my life in a ground-level chawl. A place which is not a slum, neither it's a proper housing colony... and you could call it a semi-slum, because it was next to a proper cramped slum. I had many friends in those areas who had struggle hard to take time out for school while working/helping their parents to make ends meet. But I can tell for sure that even the slum dweller, no matter how small tries to rise above their current situation, beyond just making a day's pay.

That said, back to the movie... the damn thing not about slum dweller being millionaire overnight. If you are still stuck with that being the main plot of the movie then you watched the whole thing in wrong perception, or simply put in a single track mind. The movie is about a boy's struggle to find his lost love, childhood friend. The millionaire game show is just a medium through which his story unfolds as the answers to the questions are rooted in some incident somewhere back in his life. Those incidents and events are the main story of the movie. Not the frickin' game show. He didn't go on that show just because of the money, because he believed that, that was his last chance to reach the girl he lost as she loved watching that show.

Talking about friggin classes and society and pay-levels of people... off-course you didn't understand the story.
 
blr_p said:
Don't these ppl come into contact with ppl in their day to day lives whose position that they might conceivably never obtain ?

Why does a movie change this cept to make them try perhaps harder.
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I am not denying the fact that this movie is motivational.

Realistically speaking, out of 10 people, i'd say only one or two would be motivated to change in a positive manner by working hard for their pot of gold :) . But with the rest, the story is otherwise. In their own attempt to salvage what's left of their lives with the available resources, frustration will start to creep into their attitude towards life. Disappointment and worse can follow if frustration is left unchecked. We are after all human :)

We can't all be winners. Survival of the fittest.
 
iGo said:
So you know their perspective without being one?

You are contradicting a lot in your post there my friend. There are many people who have risen up from the lowest corner of the society. I have grown up in middle-class family, spending 15 years of my life in a ground-level chawl. A place which is not a slum, neither it's a proper housing colony... and you could call it a semi-slum, because it was next to a proper cramped slum. I had many friends in those areas who had struggle hard to take time out for school while working/helping their parents to make ends meet. But I can tell for sure that even the slum dweller, no matter how small tries to rise above their current situation, beyond just making a day's pay.

That said, back to the movie... the damn thing not about slum dweller being millionaire overnight. If you are still stuck with that being the main plot of the movie then you watched the whole thing in wrong perception, or simply put in a single track mind. The movie is about a boy's struggle to find his lost love, childhood friend. The millionaire game show is just a medium through which his story unfolds as the answers to the questions are rooted in some incident somewhere back in his life. Those incidents and events are the main story of the movie. Not the frickin' game show. He didn't go on that show just because of the money, because he believed that, that was his last chance to reach the girl he lost as she loved watching that show.

Talking about friggin classes and society and pay-levels of people... off-course you didn't understand the story.
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Please don't get emotional. It will only derail this thread.

We can't all be winners.

And please understand that we are all not saints. Slumdog Millionaire illustrates this perfectly. Why is it that only Jamal chooses to lead a socially acceptable life and not Salim, Javed, Maman and their gangs?

Inside all of us lies a certain amount of good and evil. Only Jamal represents that glimmer of goodwill inside all of us.
 
its a movieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! no message , no hidden agenda... just a bloody movie ... watch it . enjoy it , move on .... did you search for message in ghajini or om shanthi om or transformers ... sheesh
 
blr_p said:
Part of the draw of the movie to me (and i suspect a great many) is that one would like to believe (for a moment) that a slum dweller could wing his way like the protaganist did. That the host of the movie refused to buy it shows the disbelief, that's why he ended up being interrogated, the host made a complaint. An honest indictment of our mindset.

The dabbawalla until recently was also someone no one thought had anything much to offer cept lunch but then there were quite a few reports worldwide about how they only miss like one in 6 million deliveries :O
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And you've said it yourself :)

The host and the entire audience undermine Jamal's capability. So much negativity and lack of hope just because Jamal is a chaiwalla.

What we have here is a small social model.

Take this small social model and expand it so that it can accommodate over a billion indians and in place of "Jamal" let the "Caste System" take the spotlight.

Now ask yourself how many of us will have a positive impression towards the caste system?

We refuse to believe we are good until a foreigner tells us so.
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That's one way of putting it. But still it helps the positive attitude.:D
 
To me it was another masala movie. It may excite the Hollywood folks, but its just another "good" movie to me.
 
virus32win said:
My complaint to movie is spreading bad dirty image of Indians all over world with scenes like jumping into shiit hole.I have never seen such worst scene and dirty atmosphere in movies.Further Amitab gave autograph to kid covered with live shiit all over,what the hell was that.In simple words as usual worst image of Indians all over world.
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With the average Hindi movies which shows Indian Lifestyle equivalent to that of Europeans and with Ferrari's and Imported cars as the vehicles used here ,What is wrong with slumdog karorpati ?
 
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