Slumdog review by Arindam chaudhuri

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I believe the intelligent people have vanished from the streets. All real wisdom is now on the forums.

Frankly man what were those retards smoking when they gave so many nominations and awards to the crap slumdog thingy....

My opinion, the guy has made a movie on India just the way westerners want to look at India...

Blade_Runner said:
Usually i don't tend to agree with people i hate but Mr. Arindam Chaudhuri has hit the nail on the head ! Salaam Bombay was above and beyond this movie, SDM is just a pile of facades, cliches and biases the director wanted to conform too.

Cant agree more with you blade...

fractal said:
"The Emperors new clothes" - LOL

This part is very true. No one dares to criticise this movie least of all our media with its slavish mentality towards the west.

very correct.....

sTALKEr said:
No one here claims that poverty etc dont exist.

What we are trying to say here is that the West has a very different perspective of india. Cows in the middle of highways inclusive. SDM managed to conform to that pov and that is the ONLY reason why it was such a big hit.

and the west has managed to overcome racism?? ohh puhleeez!!

Huhhhhhhhh Who said that. Agree with you sTALKer bhai... they will never get above that

Blade_Runner said:
Please stop looking at the movie like it's some sort of a docu-drama on India. It's an extremely cheesy movie as such and not really worthy of the hype it's getting (forget awards). It's almost in the veins of priyadarshan flicks where comic scenes are joined together for the sake of it, the only difference here is that the director is selling misery and poverty. What's funny is that we as Indians are actually raving about this movie, sucking upto it and ignoring glaring cinematic mistakes just cause it's made "on" India and a leading music director & other artists have been nominated. A classic case of Indians looking for approval from the "gora sahibs" (As if our response to 26/11 was not proof enough of our "sucking up" attitude)

Even the latest Jiya se Jiya album has better music than SDM

morgoth said:
After reading the posts here, I have a question: Can we do anything other than whining? Getting Oscars... whine some. Not getting Oscars... Whine more :bleh:

Fellas shed the "new-found" Indian ego and start looking at things with the real perceptive and not using the goggles of patriotism or "west is biased" shit. Poverty in India is a reality and so is that fact that we love our glass-houses too much.



Seeing the attitude here, it's no wonder that we get sh*t like Chandni Chowk To China as films

Buddy so is it around the world. Lets pool up and make a documentary on that now. In London too there are beggers....

I took the liberty to compile a bit of this thread
 
Why is everyone complaining abt the movie getting the Oscar nominations!!!!!

Well according to me... Was the movie good ? Definitely yes .. and I do not mean "OMG its the best movie eva."

All I am saying is I was entertained throughout the movie....

Is the movie overhyped? ..Definitely yes... As I said, although the movie is good its not earth shattering or anything new.......

Now to Rahman's music......

Was Slumdog's music good? ... Yes it was good .... But if you ask if it was the best AR Rahman music hrd.. I would say ..NO ...

But does that mean it was unfair that he got Nominated and won awards for it ????

There are hundreds of songs that Ar Rahman brings out every year ..... So does that mean the guys sitting at the Oscars must take every song into consideration for the awards..... (they probably shud but we all know its not humanly possible to do that ) ...... So they just choose whatever is best from what they have seen and heard.....

Even Aamir Khan had to do a lot of lobbying to get his movie noticed ..even after being nominated ....... So everything finally comes down to how well you sell your product in front of the decision makers.....

And finally the story being set in the slums of India......

It is a RAGS to RICHES story .. So you had to show the audience teh worst possible living conditions and then how the protagonist comes up from there....

People enjoy movies when they show something extraordinary .....

1. Gouging lil children's eye out so that they go out and beg.....

2. The most beautiful monument in India surrounded by Garbage!!!!

3. A mercedes getting stripped clean when left unattended in a slum.

4. People getting killed in the riots in front of a police vehicle but policemen NOT DOING anything about it....

All the above things shown in the movie are surprising(for Non Indians...for we Indians know abt it already.) and thats what makes the movie interesting to the Westeners......
Sure the GORAS decided to highlight on the negative side of India but then if you think about it more than 2 out of 4 sides of everything in India IS negative...

Would anyone want to watch ordinary things on screen ... Would the movie have been interesting had they shown the likes of Ambanis or Tatas.. going abt doing their daily business??

NO....

Also while the movie could have been set in any slums around the world .. It was set in India mainly because it houses one of world's largest slums.... also because maybe just maybe .. BECAUSE THE MOVIE WAS BASED ON THE NOVEL Q & A and the novel was based in India .....
 
adding a little more ghee to the talk :P
BY BARKHA DUTT

I watched Slumdog Millionaire in the comfort of a mall where I spent more on the tickets and the popcorn and Pepsi than what a daily wage labourer makes in a week. With my evening set against the backdrop of glitzy brands and voracious shoppers, I walked into the hall anticipating that I would feel guilt and self-loathing that in turn, would make me lash out at the “exploitative depiction of poverty†in the film.

Having seen the most-talked about film of the year, I can argue that the controversy is just so much humbug. It’s a manufactured debate that reveals a petty, thin-skinned intolerance. And as liberal Indians, we need to ask ourselves what it is about Slumdog Millionaire that has got under our skins. Yes, maybe, had an Indian director made a movie about Bombay’s underbelly, it wouldn’t have got the same kind of global attention. I’m even willing to grant some points to the cynics who argue that the Bombay attacks have made the India story a top-of-the-menu item. And perhaps, the love thing between Jamal and Latika doesn’t capture everyone’s romantic imagination. But none of this explains the self-righteous hand-wringing over how India’s poor are portrayed.

Where were all the carpers when Vikas Swarup first wrote the book that gave birth to the movie? If the objection is to the gaze of the ‘outsider’ isn’t any Indian of a certain socio-economic milieu as much of an outsider? Are you and I, ensconced in the comfort of our urban, middle-class lives, better qualified to capture the essential truth of life in a slum? And are we now going to reduce the art of cinema to eyewitness chronicles?

The irony is that Slumdog Millionaire — more than many films I have seen in recent years — manages to capture poverty in a way that is neither patronising nor simplistic. It entirely escapes the clichés of charity that bleeding-heart politics can sometimes force on a narrative. Yes, it often makes you squirm in your seat. I had to look away when a young boy’s eyes were gouged out with burning oil by a beggars’ mafia. I laughed, but not entirely, when a young Jamal went wading through shit just to be able to get an autograph signed from Amitabh Bachchan. Both these moments were scathing signposts of how much we have come to not notice; of how we hide from the truths of inequities and neglect.

And yet, the movie is a masterpiece — because it is able to capture the horror of these moments without being pitiful or guilty. On the contrary, more than the poverty, it is really the energy, entrepreneurship and imagination of the slum kids that is the driving force of the story. To that extent, the primary emotional characteristic of the movie is the ‘jugadu’ spirit that is so typical of India. Jugadu, of course, was originally the word for a marvellous invention — a hybrid automotive that welds the body of a jeep with the engine of a water pump and looks like a tractor. Today it has come to be our shorthand for spunkiness — a, we-will-get-the-job done attitude no matter how bad the odds are. So, if Jamal wants Latika he will play at being a millionaire, though it isn't really the money he is after.

Even the game show operates, in a sense, as a metaphor not just for aspiration but for attainability. It is all about the New India where dreams can come true. We may be incredulous about the coincidence between Jamal’s life experiences and the questions he gets asked on the show (it’s a movie, for God’s sake) but think about it. Is it really so impossible that talent can catapult an ordinary life into extraordinary fame and wealth? You only have to think of Vaishali Bhaisni Made who just walked away with Rs 50 lakh by winning a TV music contest. Vaishali failed thrice at her auditions but just kept at it. Vaishali knows a thing or two about poverty. She grew up as a farmer’s daughter in a small village in Amravati not far from Maharashtra’s suicide country. Now, trophy in hand, she thanks the city of Bombay, for “allowing her to dream.†On his India trip, Danny Boyle, told me this fascinating story about his encounter with a vendor in the slums of Bombay while researching for his film. The man told Boyle irritably that he was sick of camera crews coming in and stereotyping his life as “poor.†He wanted Boyle to know that he worked hard to earn a respectable living and was sick of being labelled.

It is this voice that Boyle is able to cast in his characters — a voice of pride and self-respect — even when pitted against people with muscle and money. Think about how Jamal — accused of cheating his way through the show — gets beaten up at the local police station. He doesn’t bend; he doesn’t succumb — he answers back with the confidence of being on the side of the right. It’s the story of the underdog told without victimhood. We Indians used to love those stories (Think of any Bachchan film from the 1970s). So what’s our problem now? Is it that we think the world is watching? And we only want them to see those swanky malls? So, then why do we want to claim the film as our own, when it sweeps the Oscars and the Globes? If anything, the movie is blatant in its affection for India. We can have different views on whether it deserves all the fuss it’s getting. But, let us not hide from the bare truths of the film, just like we duck the beggars at the street light.

(Barkha Dutt is Group Editor, English News, NDTV)
 
All Hail Barkha Dutt!! The same woman who indirectly caused the deaths of tens of armymen during Kargil!! Barkha for President!!
 
From Rakeysh Omprakash Mehra's interview

His last film Rang De Basanti created a revolution that woke up many of the nation's youth from their sab chalta hai slumber to take issues into their own hands. The man, however, looks anything but rebellious at the outset. Though scratch the surface, and you get a peek of the revolutionary…
Rakeysh says, "When Rahman (AR Rahman) heard about the nominations for the Oscars, he was with me giving final touches to the music of Delhi 6. I am so proud of him. We spoke till the early hours of the morning after that if there should be a bridge between Hollywood and Indian cinema. I feel that we should definitely do world cinema, but they should be Indian stories. It's nice to be exposed to the world, but there should be certain moral issues, ethical issues and business considerations before we expose ourselves. I think what Bachchan (Amitabh) said in his blog is absolutely true. Poverty sells, and westerners seem pretty keen to watch a film like Water which talks about the archaic miseries of widows in India. That's not what we should be aiming to sell. I don't sell escapism. We need not bend backwards to please the Hollywood producers. As a national conscience, we should be a nation which wants to go out and spread its thought process all over the world, but that doesn't mean we should sell ourselves."

Darthcoder said:
All Hail Barkha Dutt!! The same woman who indirectly caused the deaths of tens of armymen during Kargil!! Barkha for President!!
That and this www.openspace.org.in/node/811+%22shoddy+journalism%22+barkha&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&client=firefox-a]Shoddy reporting from Mumbai: Take Barkha Dutt off the air please... | OpenSpace[/url]

and this Blogger Silenced by NDTV | DesiPundit
 
if you read this full page ad in the newspapers, you must have observed a line at the end of the article, 'Celebration of freedom of speech'
and when someone expresses his own view about the IIPM colleges, they file defamation suits.
very well put by junkiedogg
junkiedogg said:
Well .. maybe its movies like

Rok Sako To Rok Lo

that should be getting Oscars. BAH.
About SDM, it was a MOVIE, made for commercial (or whatever) purposes by the director, it is not a Documentary.
Movie is an art, and the artist has (or should have) full freedom to show what he wants to show.
Had it been a documentary then the protests etc. would have been justified and we could have said that it is showing just one side of the country, since it is not a documentary, I think we should just let the movie be.
One thing though which I didn't like about the movie is how the actors start speaking in English all of a sudden. That defeats the whole purpose (if any) of the movie.
 
I just saw "Body of Lies". That was one of the best spy movies to come out in recent times, even pwning the Bourne series. If your read Ludlum's books, you'd know.

Leo repeats his awesomeness after Blood Diamond.

SDM doesn't deserve the awards, though it was good entertainment.

Enough of this SDM debate already, there are so many better films more worth your time.
 
Frankly speaking- we are giving this too much attention.

Don't know if anyone, especially the cool, young dudes and dudettes who have adapted ( conciously/subconciously or even unconciously:lol:) to the western way of life and look at confirmation from the westerners for estimation of self-worth will agree with me-
but SDM felt as if someone shot a documentary on the slummiest part of slums or society in general and spun a story around the footage. :ashamed:

Ohh shit- i even revived a stupid mistake i had made sometime back, copy-pasted from the discussion we had on TE just a little time back. :rofl:
Life is so Simple- We Simply make it so Complicated
 
lol.... 10 oscar nomination ...3 for AR rehman.....it needs attention :) .lol..the oscar nomination procedure is not simple like filmfare .
 
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