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Well , in light of what has happened and what is happening , i had a word with a few GO members as well as Mods and Admins.

So i am listing out a few changes which can be incorporated in the GO rules to keep everyone happy. Mind you , these are just suggestions and not the New Rules. Members , Dealers , Mods alike are requested to go through them , suggest their own changes , giving reasons. Please do not start a blame game or this is rubbish ,that is rubbish here. Use the other thread for that :ohyeah:.

  • No limits on the number of GO's. If a person gets lots of good deals, why stop them right ?
  • Discuss the deal with the respective dealers selling the same product. I know it is a bit tiresome , but it will go well in everyone's favour. Remember , none of us here are there to cheat you , if we get to know some other sources are selling their product at a lower price , maybe we can convince our sources to get you a better deal also.
  • The GO starter must get everything cleared , that is the time the deal ends , as well as billing also. To close a little possibility of the members earning from the GO , the GO starter must provide the buyers with a bill (even a cumulative one would do). Even though it does not eliminate the problem completely , it does lower the probability. Again , Remember , we are being honest about our profits , and are ready to pay for the services we are availing from TE , all we want is anyone else doing the same should be transparent too.
  • If the Dealer is unable to get a similar deal , then the GO starter can start the deal , and the dealers will NOT try and undermine the GO until the GO ends. If the dealer turns up and gets a better deal than the GO , he has to discuss it with the GO member and make sure the member himself is free of his commitments before the deal transfer can be made. I guess this is self-explanatory.
  • There are cases where the product differs in some way or the other. Maybe the warranty part. E.g the GO member is getting a product X for Rs 1000 with 1 years warranty and the dealer is getting the same product for Rs 1200 with 5 years warranty. These things need to be made clear in the GO to the members , and then depending on the response , the respective person (Member/Dealer) will continue.
  • In case the dealer is able to get a better/Similar deal , then the dealer will continue the deal , and there should be no changes or butting in from the members side unless the member is able to get yet again a better deal.
  • In case of a bogus deal , that is , a member trying to start a GO which ends up to be false , well you guys suggest the punishment. All GO sources should be verifiable , and the mods/admins can do that at their own discretion if they find something fishy.

Can't think of anything more. Others please make necessary changes and make suggestions here.

Whew , longest post i made in a while :P
 
Also the dealer and member can co-ordinate between themselves and take not more than a day or two to decide. So this also takes care of the delay part in pre-processing of deals.
 
Renegade said:
Also the dealer and member can co-ordinate between themselves and take not more than a day or two to decide. So this also takes care of the delay part in pre-processing of deals.
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Yep , Mods don't need to barge into everything. Only when necessary. I uess most of the GO members know the dealers well. We have the PM facility. We have our Messenger/Email contacts in our profiles. They can just drop in a PM and we will carry it out.
 
Gr8 work there Sudhir :D

If the dealer turns up and gets a better deal than the GO , he has to discuss it with the GO member and make sure the member himself is free of his commitments before the deal transfer can be made. I guess this is self-explanatory.
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This doesn't matter I guess . In case a general member is running a GO on product X , the dealer can always start their own deal on the same product @ similar/higher/lower price.Its upto the other TE members to decide where to get the product from. Sometimes GOs take a lot of time and ppl will rather get the thing from the dealers directly for say a slightly more premium but much faster.

All in all, for a general member to get a GO running, he has to check up with all the dealers (PM the 5/6 TE dealers) about the item and the approx price.If dealers can't get the same deal, the member is free to start it, say after 1-2 days of PMing dealers.Otherwise I guess easier is just start the GO..if a dealer can get a better or similar deal within a day or two on same product, then the GO starter can direct it to the TE dealer. For a GO which is already run by a dealer, a member should not (recommended) start a new GO as long as the price is substantially( varies according to product :P...say at least 100 bucks for a 1k product...just using common sense) lower.

Hope this explains the thing. This is what my common sense (or is it uncommon :P) says. When I had an IC on WD 640GB for 4.8k...amarbir offered it for 4.4k within a day or two, I directed all members towards him (even I got the HDD from him). So may be the rule in writing may be new...but for members who runs the GO genuinely there shouldn't be any problem :)

Also about the no of GOs...what I suggest is that it should have some limit and specificness. Someone starts a Dell GO and puts the whole range of laptops/LCDs for deals. Cmon that is not realistic. No member can have so much time to manage 10-20 orders in a week for 2-3 mnths continuously. Then of course dealers will have a problem with it.So just use your mind and start a GO :D

PS:- Ahh something good for 2222 nd post :P
 
Well the point i had mentioned was just to help the members too. Maybe the member has already received the lot , the dealer has better pricing , and some GO guys cancel their orders , happens especially when Cash on Delivery/Pick-Up is involved, the member himself loses .

As for limits on number of products , your argument does make sense. But as you pointed out , a genuine GO will never have more than what the member can handle coz of the very simple fact that we have other things to do right ? Like College , School , Office , and maybe Kindergarten for the mods :bleh: .Well more suggestions on this point are welcome.

Also , i guess starting the GO , and then handing it over to the dealer works out nice. But this has to be done genuinely by the members , and should not require another fiasco like what happened recently.
 
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cant think of anything other than the Dell GO's.. can we? :P lol...

nice points there Sudhir.

Btw, since when did a sale with exactly 184(i counted :P) products become a GO?

shouldnt there be restrictions to ensure that TE doesnt become a full fledged pseudo shop even for dealers?
 
Hi ,

People Here Are Making Money in The Name of GO Also ,I Know that For a Fact ,they Do Not even Pay Thier Dealer Fee And Tis Hurts Our Business .
 
PhOeNiX said:
Well , in light of what has happened and what is happening , i had a word with a few GO members as well as Mods and Admins.
So i am listing out a few changes which can be incorporated in the GO rules to keep everyone happy. Mind you , these are just suggestions and not the New Rules. Members , Dealers , Mods alike are requested to go through them , suggest their own changes , giving reasons. Please do not start a blame game or this is rubbish ,that is rubbish here. Use the other thread for that :ohyeah:.

  • No limits on the number of GO's. If a person gets lots of good deals, why stop them right ?
  • Discuss the deal with the respective dealers selling the same product. I know it is a bit tiresome , but it will go well in everyone's favour. Remember , none of us here are there to cheat you , if we get to know some other sources are selling their product at a lower price , maybe we can convince our sources to get you a better deal also.
  • The GO starter must get everything cleared , that is the time the deal ends , as well as billing also. To close a little possibility of the members earning from the GO , the GO starter must provide the buyers with a bill (even a cumulative one would do). Even though it does not eliminate the problem completely , it does lower the probability. Again , Remember , we are being honest about our profits , and are ready to pay for the services we are availing from TE , all we want is anyone else doing the same should be transparent too.
  • If the Dealer is unable to get a similar deal , then the GO starter can start the deal , and the dealers will NOT try and undermine the GO until the GO ends. If the dealer turns up and gets a better deal than the GO , he has to discuss it with the GO member and make sure the member himself is free of his commitments before the deal transfer can be made. I guess this is self-explanatory.
  • There are cases where the product differs in some way or the other. Maybe the warranty part. E.g the GO member is getting a product X for Rs 1000 with 1 years warranty and the dealer is getting the same product for Rs 1200 with 5 years warranty. These things need to be made clear in the GO to the members , and then depending on the response , the respective person (Member/Dealer) will continue.
  • In case the dealer is able to get a better/Similar deal , then the dealer will continue the deal , and there should be no changes or butting in from the members side unless the member is able to get yet again a better deal.
  • In case of a bogus deal , that is , a member trying to start a GO which ends up to be false , well you guys suggest the punishment. All GO sources should be verifiable , and the mods/admins can do that at their own discretion if they find something fishy.

Can't think of anything more. Others please make necessary changes and make suggestions here.

Whew , longest post i made in a while :P
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Anything else you want the GO starter to do sir?
Stupid and senseless,
Everything being said and done presuming the member as a cheater..:@

@dealers, yes wow you are at such a big loss paying a few 1000s for instant access to people ready to trust you by just looking at your price..man..thats a lot of loss..:@

Yet again i'd say, if you find some deal fishy, jus check it out, NO need for any new rules..
@Mods - This doesnt seem to fix the broken part, and it just shows to what length the dealers hav gained mileage in TE..
If you have problem with certain members, then bring it in the open..
 
Party Monger said:
Anything else you want the GO starter to do sir?

Stupid and senseless,

Everything being said and done presuming the member as a cheater..:@

@dealers, yes wow you are at such a big loss paying a few 1000s for instant access to people ready to trust you by just looking at your price..man..thats a lot of loss..:@

Yet again i'd say, if you find some deal fishy, jus check it out, NO need for any new rules..

@Mods - This doesnt seem to fix the broken part, and it just shows to what length the dealers hav gained mileage in TE..

If you have problem with certain members, then bring it in the open..
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Nonesense ,

I Know Dealers Who Are Sending Prices To Members For GO.
 
The orginal philosophy of a group order has been altered dramatically that's all I will say. Group orders section looks more like a fish market.
 
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ehh... no amar-ji..

Partymonger is just favoring the ordinary user.IMO the main part of a tech forum. and i do agree with him. all this pblm is due to just some ppl trying to undermine other for a profit. ther is no need for new rules. just check the credibility of the user.

so i say the only rule needed is : Orginal identity of user who wish to start the GO be made public..either to all..or the staff only.Ppl can check them out.
 
The orginal philosophy of a group order has been altered dramatically that's all I will say. Group orders section looks more like a fish market.
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Amen to that

The GOs these days are so unlike the GOs of yore (The GOs organized by Saiyan come to mind) which were truly altruistic (Saiyan even spent his own money trying to pack up the stuff nicely)

Here's a random suggestion..Why not let only member with a minm # of post count, and a minm. reputation level be allowed to start a GO (while keeping both thresholds relatively high)

Not that it will solve all issues but will at least control the mayhem to a certain extent

oh, and if a new member wants to start a GO, let him ask a senior member who knows and trusts him rnough to vouch for him

I know this sounds weird, but I feel there are quite a few people misusing GOs for personal benefits which is not fair either to buyers, or to the dealers who are paying for the privilege of being a dealer
 
Lol yeah, He sent me a drive from chennai filled with HD goodness. poor guy, and I pestered him to no end for that xD,

So trusting our Mods are...
 
Sir ,

I Second That ,It Takes The Following To Become a Dealer

1 :Time Spending On Forum "Lot of It"

2 :Checking Material

3 :Sourcing Goddies

4 :Packing "We Spend Our Own Money Here "

5 :Sending To Courier

6 :Solving Issues

When a Dealer Does So Much We Is Rewarded By a PErson Who Get 5 Items Sells At Cheaper Price And Hurts The Dealer Sales .Secondly i say

1 :The Go Should Have Limit In Days

2 :the Go PErson Should Also Tell How Many Pieces GO He is Creating

Example Guy Says i Will a XYZ Product For XYZ Money ,Lets Assume its cheaper then the dealer here ,The dealer will not have any sales for many many days due to this as the go member has not specified how many days he is planning to have the go and how many item he has with him for the go

Long Live The GOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
^^ so does any GO creator. I doubt if dealers are to be allowed to make profits at the cost of losing a good member GO. Price is not the only thing you guys are competing on. Most of us would rather buy from a dealer than some shady GO set up by a member of questionable repute, even if there is a small price differential. It competition, get used to it. if you cant sell based on price, there are other aspects you can focus on :)
 
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