TATA Indicom - Confusing Terminologies

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Well i was on Airtel since the past one year, but because of their repeated wrong billing on my account and FUPs, i was thinking of shifting to TATA Indicom.

These guys have this very unusual clause in all their "unlimited residential" plans.

Firstly , the rates totally suck. . and on top of that they have this "COMPRESSION RATIO" clause . Which is 1:2, 1:4, 1:8 on different plans.

According to them, If you take a 2Mbps plan , you will get "browsing" speed of 2 Mbps but dowload speed of only about 500 Kbps ( 2Mbps/4 ). :@

Has anyone experienced something like this ? And how do they differentiate a "Download" packet from a "Browsing" packet from a communications standpoint ?
 
Using TATA Indicom on my 2nd comp. Havent faced any such problems "YET". I got cool 80 85k while download on a 768 kbps plan which is fine. BTW that speed was in torrents. Speedtest was showing 0.7 to 0.8 mbps which works out just fine.
 
I think it just means they are guaranteeing only 1/4th of the speed but you may get upto 2mbps depending on network utlisation. As posted above no consumer plans from any ISP will have 1:1 ratio.

IMO Tata is just being upfront about their contention ratio so that there are no surprises later.
 
But I dont get it. How is the ratio implemented. When I use Airtel on a 1 Mbps line, I get around 100+ KBps download speed which is (mathematically) a 1:1 ratio ?

Or I am doing something wrong. Also I have read on some forums, with TATA users reporting that they are getting 1/4th of the speed advertized because of this ratio :(
 
The thing is its their upto plans. If you are on a 1:4 line and if all 4 ppl are on 1mbps connection then you will get 1/4 mbps when all 4 people are online. If only 2 ppl are online u get 1/2 mbps.
I'm getting 1:1 ratio for the past 2 yrs. Numbnuts in our area are so freaking chingoos no one gets a TATA connection :bleh:
 
The contention ratio is calculated based on the total available bandwidth with the ISP to the total userbase's combined bandwidth.
1:4 does not mean 4 users with 1Mbps connection will share a single 1Mbps line. It most probably means 4000 users are using a 1000Mbps line. The probability of all of them using it at the same time to its full extent is next to impossible. The 4000 number is also very insignificant to what the ISP's customer base is.

There might be local contention between users who share the same building/locality depending on the hardware used. eg. if a single 10port 10Mbps hub is used among 10 users in a building then their combined maximum bandwidth is 10Mbps irrespective of their data plans.

djmykey said:
Numbnuts in our area are so freaking chingoos no one gets a TATA connection :bleh:

Its been a long time since I heard that :).
 
My Reliance wired broadband (2mbps night ~ 225kbps/1 mbps day ~ 110 kbps) has a 1:1 download/upload ratio without FUP.

IIRC, Tata had this 1:4 ratio of internet speeds, i.e. upload speed is 1/4th of the download speed. Even Airtel has the same I think.
 
^ But just because you are getting the full speed all the time doesn't necessarily mean that there is NO contention ratio. It just means that there is excess bandwidth available.

Does reliance explicitly mention anywhere that the contention ratio is 1:1?
 
ultimabasher said:
I got cool 80 85k while download on a 768 kbps plan which is fine. BTW that speed was in torrents. Speedtest was showing 0.7 to 0.8 mbps which works out just fine.

Ditto. Only thing is PINGs SUCK! Can barely play Team Fortress 2 without missing a bit of the action. I get around 200 ~ 250 on the starhub servers ....

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Exactly opposite for me. I get on an average 50 to 100 less pings on it when I play Heroes of Newerth compared to reliance. But I got to keep reliance on my main pc cause its 1mbps -.-. May get rid of it soon if tata stays good.

RD274 said:
Ditto. Only thing is PINGs SUCK! Can barely play Team Fortress 2 without missing a bit of the action. I get around 200 ~ 250 on the starhub servers ....

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varkey said:
^ But just because you are getting the full speed all the time doesn't necessarily mean that there is NO contention ratio. It just means that there is excess bandwidth available.

Does reliance explicitly mention anywhere that the contention ratio is 1:1?
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Contention is a standard policy followed by ISPs worldwide. If ISP plan their network correctly, there is no need to worry about this.
 
Sei said:
My Reliance wired broadband (2mbps night ~ 225kbps/1 mbps day ~ 110 kbps) has a 1:1 download/upload ratio without FUP.

IIRC, Tata had this 1:4 ratio of internet speeds, i.e. upload speed is 1/4th of the download speed. Even Airtel has the same I think.
Nope, this has nothing to do with DL:UL ratio IMO. Cause even in Airtel i get 1 Mbps Ul and DL. I think this is the B/W sharing terminology only.

Lets hope I get decent speeds/pings. Going for 2Mbps Night U/L for 1k/month.
 
I have been using tata indicom broadband for over a year now. I upgraded to a plan in DEC 2010 called infinity 1.5 (Rs.1100+taxes) which offers me 1.5 MBps speeds on sundays and between 10pm to 8am on weekdays and from 8am to 10pm I get speeds of 256 KBps. Last month a person from tata called and said I have exhausted the FUP which was capped at 42GB for this UNLIMITED plan. So I upgraded to another plan which offers the same speeds except that the speeds between 8am to 10pm are 384KBps. That costs me Rs.1300 per month and comes with a FUP of 72 GB. The speeds are good and touch 220KBps in uTorrent at night and 50-60KBps during the day. I hate the idea of attaching FUP to unlimited plans--its criminal!
 
Ok , So i finally got it installed.

The speeds are fine and the pings suck. Anyways. But how do you check the daily BBand usage ???

There is no such link on the "My Account" page in Tata Indicom . Even the CC doesn't know much.

I have take the 2 Mbps N/U plan, so need to monitor my day usage :( .

HELP !
 
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